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Sectorseven

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Oct 25, 2017
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newatlas.com

Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech

"We are sidestepping all of the scientific challenges that have held fusion energy back for more than half a century," says the director of an Australian company that claims its hydrogen-boron fusion technology is already working a billion times better than expected.

The results of decades of research by Emeritus Professor Heinrich Hora, HB11's approach to fusion does away with rare, radioactive and difficult fuels like tritium altogether – as well as those incredibly high temperatures. Instead, it uses plentiful hydrogen and boron B-11, employing the precise application of some very special lasers to start the fusion reaction.

Here's how HB11 describes its "deceptively simple" approach: the design is "a largely empty metal sphere, where a modestly sized HB11 fuel pellet is held in the center, with apertures on different sides for the two lasers. One laser establishes the magnetic containment field for the plasma and the second laser triggers the 'avalanche' fusion chain reaction. The alpha particles generated by the reaction would create an electrical flow that can be channeled almost directly into an existing power grid with no need for a heat exchanger or steam turbine generator."

HB11's Managing Director Dr. Warren McKenzie clarifies over the phone: "A lot of fusion experiments are using the lasers to heat things up to crazy temperatures – we're not. We're using the laser to massively accelerate the hydrogen through the boron sample using non-linear forced. You could say we're using the hydrogen as a dart, and hoping to hit a boron , and if we hit one, we can start a fusion reaction. That's the essence of it. If you've got a scientific appreciation of temperature, it's essentially the speed of atoms moving around. Creating fusion using temperature is essentially randomly moving atoms around, and hoping they'll hit one another, our approach is much more precise."

"The hydrogen/boron fusion creates a couple of helium atoms," he continues. "They're naked heliums, they don't have electrons, so they have a positive charge. We just have to collect that charge. Essentially, the lack of electrons is a product of the reaction and it directly creates the current."

The lasers themselves rely upon cutting-edge "Chirped Pulse Amplification" technology, the development of which won its inventors the 2018 Nobel prize in Physics. Much smaller and simpler than any of the high-temperature fusion generators, HB11 says its generators would be compact, clean and safe enough to build in urban environments. There's no nuclear waste involved, no superheated steam, and no chance of a meltdown.

"This is brand new," Professor Hora tells us. "10-petawatt power laser pulses. It's been shown that you can create fusion conditions without hundreds of millions of degrees. This is completely new knowledge. I've been working on how to accomplish this for more than 40 years. It's a unique result. Now we have to convince the fusion people – it works better than the present day hundred million degree thermal equilibrium generators. We have something new at hand to make a drastic change in the whole situation. A substitute for carbon as our energy source. A radical new situation and a new hope for energy and the climate."
 

Pomerlaw

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Feb 25, 2018
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Great article! Thank you!

10-20 years seems far away, but we could use these to build large carbon capture plants.
 

Narroo

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Feb 27, 2018
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Hm, this sounds suspiciously like code fusion and seems to be out of nowhere. I'd really take this with a grin of salt.

ESPECIALLY because they make it sound like fusion reactors are similar to fission reactors. "No chance of meltdown"? I'd hope so for a fusion reactor.
 

Rendering...

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Oct 30, 2017
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Someone alert the coal and oil barons. I'm sure they'll be tripping over each other to support this technology.

There definitely won't be any red tape, or regrettable and totally unforeseen accidents, that delay things.
 

Kernel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Someone alert the coal and oil barons. I'm sure they'll be tripping over each other to support this technology

They're already on it.

www.forbes.com

Japan And Australia Launch An Experimental Coal To Hydrogen Export Industry

Australia and Japan are building a trial coal-to-hydrogen facility as a first step to exporting the clean fuel in its liquefied form.

Japan and Australia have taken their first steps to create new export industry which will convert the world's most polluting fuel, coal, into its cleanest, hydrogen, and ship it in liquefied form from Australia to Japan.

The $350 million experiment is based on a vast reserve of low-grade coal in Victoria, which was for decades the southern state's major source of electricity, until most of the power plants were closed because of the pollution they generated.
 
Nov 14, 2017
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So, it seems the people behind this published this paper three years ago. Basically, they think they can do inertial confinement fusion at lower temperatures, and then convert the fusion energy directly to electricity. They are basically looking for money so they can develop a prototype. It seems like they might be genuine - it doesn't appear to be a cold fusion situation at least.
 

Noisy Ninj4

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Oct 25, 2017
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In a sense, this still is high temperature fusion but much more tightly controlled. Forming ions as a result of the fusion makes for way more efficient energy collection since there's no mechanical loss and less heat loss. A lot of the problem with fusion has been harnessing enough energy from the resulting reactions to outpace the energy spent in causing them.
 

Shoeless

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Oct 27, 2017
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This sounds really promising if it's true and we get other labs replicating the process. If this is the "cold fusion" that people were looking for 10-20 years to start seeing some actual applications doesn't sound that bad. I hope this is legit.
 

Ludovico

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Oct 25, 2017
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Holy shit....

Between this and the Wired article about UFOs......

We're on the verge of so many terrifyingly cool breakthroughs.
 

SRG01

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, it seems the people behind this published this paper three years ago. Basically, they think they can do inertial confinement fusion at lower temperatures, and then convert the fusion energy directly to electricity. They are basically looking for money so they can develop a prototype. It seems like they might be genuine - it doesn't appear to be a cold fusion situation at least.

The whole thing that worries me is that they're claiming a fusion reaction can be done with alpha particles and boron. Hydrogen and boron is well understood, but I haven't seen any literature on alpha particles...
 

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I remember looking though r/futurology to read about stuff like this. Nothing ever materializes.
Stuff like fusion reactors and battery advancement.
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Still, it's good to hope. An energy breakthough would have world changing implications.
 

Ludovico

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Oct 25, 2017
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UFOs? What'd I miss?

www.popularmechanics.com

Inside the Pentagon's Secret UFO Program

The government can't keep its story straight about its involvement with UFOs. After a yearlong investigation, we reveal the staggering truth.

Not necessarily aliens
it's definitely not aliens
, but there's either been radical aircraft tech in existence for the last two decades, or weird, repeated anomalies/phenomena keep being picked up by military sensors.


edit - Oh yeah, or psy-ops. That's a fun one
 

StrayDog

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Jul 14, 2018
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Dr McKenzie won't however, be drawn on how long it'll be before the hydrogen-boron reactor is a commercial reality. "The timeline question is a tricky one," he says. "I don't want to be a laughing stock by promising we can deliver something in 10 years, and then not getting there. First step is setting up camp as a company and getting started. First milestone is demonstrating the reactions, which should be easy. Second milestone is getting enough reactions to demonstrate an energy gain by counting the amount of helium that comes out of a fuel pellet when we have those two lasers working together. That'll give us all the science we need to engineer a reactor. So the third milestone is bringing that all together and demonstrating a reactor concept that works."
it will take some time.
 
Jun 20, 2019
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Hmm. Sounds far-fetched. Gonna have to hit a lot of boron with a lot of hydrogen at a pretty rapid clip to make the thing worthwhile.

e: mixup, alpha particles are the output