The buyer definitely has a legal recourse against the middle-man company. Question is: does he want to spend the money and time it'll cost him?
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Rare Pokemon card sold for $60,000 in 2018 was lost by the USPS, insured at $50,000 but cannot be paid out due to USPS having signature on record
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HAHAHAHA I worked for the company Aramex before, they are for SURE the culprits here. 10000%. USPS never received shit from them. Aramex is a middle man company for packages so cheap that UPS won't accept it. What you get is warehouses filled with so many god damn yellow envelopes that never get shipped out and are just sitting there. Over half the employees I worked with told me they've opened up packages and taken shit before since it's just laying there for months on end.
Lots of read flags here! Would definitely not trust the USPS to deliver anything with that kind of value. Especially overseas.
I'm sure the conversation happening through eBay is extra spicy.
USPS'ing a 60K item or using fucking Aramex is so profoundly foolish. Stuff like that should be exchanged in person.
I'm not surprised at all with how long that show ran. I am surprised that the guy had such an amazing collection considering how much people end up getting shot down for their amazing item(s).
UPS/Fedex have shipping options specifically for big-ticket items like this. You can also hire a courier with an armored van lol
GTA V style. It's how they deliver jewelry, cash, bullion, etc.
Honestly the easiest way is to fly out with the card and deliver it in person. It has a PSA case on it and those are rock solid and can't really be bent so you can keep it in your bag or pocket.
I used to flip pokemon and MTG cards and for big ticket stuff that was usually the case
"Sir, I suspect that this card is a drug dealer. I'm going to have to take it into custody."
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I think it's just cause it's rare and some person won it in a tournament which makes even less sense as the card itself does nothing, and it's congratulating a winner of a tournament, something the owner now hasn't done. But people spend their money on really dumb shit all the time
Guy also trying to sell his legs for $40k for tattoo advertising lol.
I don't know that it's the only one, but as it was only handed out to tournament winners it is an exceptionally rare card. The bulbapedia article on it is pretty dense and doesn't have an easily-skimmable section about how many of each No.3 trainer printing are out there.
I mean on the one hand I agree with the implication that people who are doing mining for rare minerals, gems, and the like are severely, hell, literally criminally underpaid, but on the other hand a lot of these gems aren't really all that rare and are only as expensive as they are because of the fact that extraction is being done under the control of only a few companies, basically monopolies/cartels (i.e., deBeers).
But so who is losing money in the end? I vaguely suspect that since the items were not received by the buyer, their contract will force them to reimburse. Is this a case of aramex stealing the card and getting away with it because of bad contract between Pokemon place and aramex?
It's weird. $60k is obviously fucking insane but I would imagine that the purchaser is rich as hell. So, I guess, do it up.
If I won a million bucks in the lottery this week, I can't lie: I would definitely go buy every special edition DS and 3DS for absolutely no reason.
If I won a million bucks in the lottery this week, I can't lie: I would definitely go buy every special edition DS and 3DS for absolutely no reason.
I think you got the story wrong. USPS didn't lose it. Looks like a go-between courier lost it.
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Why on Earth would you send something so valuable by mail? There are many many services that offer secure delivery of items like this.
EDIT: Misread, a middle man lost it. I hope they have good insurance.
EDIT: Misread, a middle man lost it. I hope they have good insurance.
Hand delivery or pickup. Quite common for high value transactions. Unless the 3rd party is extremely trustworthy (like a bank or established auction house) you do it yourself.
all the more reason to use a specialized courier or UPS/FedEx or DHL. you check the whole thing before you sign for it. but who the hell would be stupid enough
to send something so valuable through USPS with their record of losing shit? I agree that Aramex should have checked the bulk lot thoroughly but USPS is supposed to keep certified/express/registered mail in a separate shipment schedule and not with the daily bulk mail.
DHL, world courier, Axis global. buy a plane ticket.
nah, customs isn't going to know or care about a trading card.
I'm willing to bet 60K that USPS lost the damn thing before it got to the middle man company.
So you just take the word of the middle man company that after signing for the packages it was there?
"I won't actually read the article in the OP but instead quickly Google image search 'funny Pokemon card' and pick the one with a TV character that ERA hates to attempt to derail the topic before anyone else replies."
Well, I guess they could have gone with the arrangement others have stated then, with the seller handing it directly to the buyer (and making the buyer sign confirming he received it).
Aramex is clearly the responsible party here. They admit to signing for it. That's the point of requiring a signature, and this was registered mail even. They didn't check what they were signing for, but that's on them
Don't know why anyone would expect the USPS or their insurer to pay out. They say nobody is pursuing legal action so they must all be rich af anyway
Don't know why anyone would expect the USPS or their insurer to pay out. They say nobody is pursuing legal action so they must all be rich af anyway
"lost in the mail" is not the same as "lost by usps." Its explained in the story.
see above. lost in the mail is not the same as lost by usps.
I can only assume this will go to court and the middle man company has to be found at fault since they signed for packages without confirming the contents of the bulk package. Sure we all sign for things without confirming, but with a tracking number they would have KNOWN it would be delivered that day.
I cannot tell you how many times USPS has a signature on record for shit that was apparently never delivered anywhere. I even had to break out camera footage once to prove that no one attempted delivery all day (yep, sent them fuckers footage from 8AM - 8PM) and they still refused to honor the insurance.
I want to support them, but it's easy to hate them when they miss deliveries and their customer service is literally aggressive.
I want to support them, but it's easy to hate them when they miss deliveries and their customer service is literally aggressive.
The Hope Diamond was sent from NYC to the Smithsonian via USPS Registered Mail, and it's worth a few hundred million more than this Pokemon card.
Registered Mail is tracked every step of the way, secured in a safe, and cannot be delivered without an in-person signature. If your carrier is cutting corners on priority expresses or certified mail, that's one thing, but on a Registered? At best they'll get fired; at worst, the Inspection Service will get involved.
what the fuck at that charizard collection. I only had one and it was stolen.
If I was selling a rare item for 60k, I would 100% be hand delivering that bad boy myself.
Shit, I I get nervous posting back games I've rented. My anxiety is on edge until I get the received email.
Shit, I I get nervous posting back games I've rented. My anxiety is on edge until I get the received email.