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Ratchet and Clank 2016 35€ at launch vs Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart being 80€

Chamon

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I'm about to finish Rift Apart, and don't get me wrong, I'm loving the game. But I think it is being kinda short, like the 2016 reboot, so I decided to see if my memory was playing tricks with me and...

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...and then I started to think that the 80€ price is totally unjustified.

Sure this game is amazing and looks nuts, but the 2016 one also was like this and costed less than half.

What do you think? In my opinion companies should deliver better and longer experiences if they are going to charge more for their products.


EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION: some people are focusing in the length of the game, but the point that I'm trying to make, is that both games provide similar experiences (at their launch times), but one cost significantly more than the other.
 
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digitalrelic

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Game length has absolutely nothing to do with quality or value or worth of said game.

I'd oftentimes much rather buy a 10-15 hour game at full price than an 80-100 hour game.
 
Rosebud

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I don't think the 80€ price is justifiable, but the 2016 game is a remake that was made in 10 months. Not comparable.
 
PlanetSmasher

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I think it's complicated. I personally don't want to spend $70 on a game I'll finish in a weekend, but I also hesitate to think game pricing should be dependent on game length. How do you price short games? How do you price long games?

It's a slippery slope, and if you introduce variable pricing into the mix you could see every developer flood their game with mandatory filler content in order to justify a higher price point.
 
Hieronymus Bosch

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People pay $20+ at the movies for a 2 hour experience.

looking at time + price isn't the right way of going about it

Last of Us + Uncharted were only a few hours longer than this game.
 
ozumas

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Chamon said:
I'm about to finish Rift Apart, and don't get me wrong, I'm loving the game. But I think it is being kinda short, like the 2016 reboot, so I decided to see if my memory was playing tricks with me and...

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...and then I started to think that the 80€ price is totally unjustified.

Sure this game is amazing and looks nuts, but the 2016 one also was like this and costed less than half.

What do you think? In my opinion companies should deliver better and longer experiences if they are going to charge more for their products.
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80 euros is unjustifiable but for god sake, 10-20 hours of duration is perfect in this kind of game, I don't want longer games, I want better games and that does not depend of the duration
 
Tora

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Took me 15 hours to 100% it. I enjoyed 2016 just as much but RA is still a fine Ratchet.

£54.99 and we're somewhat talking
 
HebrewHammer

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I think we can all agree that Sony is going to reevaluate their pricing structure in the next year or so.

Between the new rise of chatter around game costs, mostly due to the rising pressure from Game Pass, they just don't have much of an excuse.
 
Rosebud

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HebrewHammer said:
I think we can all agree that Sony is going to reevaluate their pricing structure in the next year or so.

Between the new rise of chatter around game costs, mostly due to the rising pressure from Game Pass, they just don't have much of an excuse.
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Yeah, just like Nintendo will start to cut their prices because of GP...
 
Acquiescence

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cw_sasuke

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You guys complain all the time about the lack of next-gen only experiences - yet also complain about the prices needed to make it viable for publishers. Why would they even bother with a next-gen only game if they cant charge more for it while having to spent more on development ?

If consoles and games are too expensive - just wait for pricedrops. Owning these systems and games day 1 is a privilege and not something that every can justify.
 
Mr.Deadshot

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Yeah, it's bullshit. But it didn't impact sales, so they will probably continue this.

There will be only very few games that I am willing to spend that kind of money on.

Good thing is, most things go on sale eventually.
 
Gedi

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Chamon said:
What do you think? In my opinion companies should deliver better and longer experiences if they are going to charge more for their products.
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Disagree. I don't want games being made to some sort of arbitrary length. I bought Rift Apart and I'm probably half way through and I'm much content with that than where I'm at with AC: Valhalla, having spent about 4 or 5 times as many hours on that but can't face picking it up anymore, knowing I've still got probably twice as much still to go.
 
Kolx

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This mentality is why we have games like AC that takes +100 hours to finish filled with shit so boring to go through. $X/hour is the worst metric ever, and people should stop using it as if every game should be +50 hour or $30.
HebrewHammer said:
I think we can all agree that Sony is going to reevaluate their pricing structure in the next year or so.

Between the new rise of chatter around game costs, mostly due to the rising pressure from Game Pass, they just don't have much of an excuse.
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This would make sense if not for the fact every other publisher except EA and Xbox is doing the exact same thing. Yet somehow, Sony apparently is the only one selling games for full price instead of putting them day 1 on a sub.
 

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HebrewHammer said:
I think we can all agree that Sony is going to reevaluate their pricing structure in the next year or so.

Between the new rise of chatter around game costs, mostly due to the rising pressure from Game Pass, they just don't have much of an excuse.
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Not going to happen with how well they're doing.
 
DevilMayGuy

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I agree that €80 is ridiculous. I don't agree that using game length as a measuring stick is correct.

Here's hoping Sony reevaluates their pricing (lol)
 
nadbmal

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Just go get an Xbox and Game Pass if you're looking for quantity over quality. Rift Apart is an amazing game and a technological marvel and i've enjoyed it way more than the 2016 game.
 
IIFloodyII

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HebrewHammer said:
I think we can all agree that Sony is going to reevaluate their pricing structure in the next year or so.

Between the new rise of chatter around game costs, mostly due to the rising pressure from Game Pass, they just don't have much of an excuse.
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There's pretty much no reason to think they will, especially as more publishers get on the next gen tax wagon (EA joining Sony, Acti and Take-Two), in another year I wonder how many more will be charging as much, now that they actually have stuff to release and BF, FIFA, NBA and CoD have further kicked that door down.
 
Xanfrabot

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As much as I hate the new price... Hey, at least it's a new game. Nintendo, on the other hand, expects me to pay $60 for ROMs and HD ports, which is much worse IMO.
 
SunBroDave

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I mean, I don't think there's any denying that Rift Apart looks like it was very expensive to make
 
aevanhoe

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Chamon said:
I'm about to finish Rift Apart, and don't get me wrong, I'm loving the game.
...and then I started to think that the 80€ price is totally unjustified.
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Rift Apart is one of the most spectacular games I played and well worth the price of Digital Deluxe I payed for it. If it's not worth it to you based on length, that's fine but it's not some universal truth.
 
Viale

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Well, rift apart is also notably, notably better than 2016, so meh, length isn't the only factor in these things.
 
Betty

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I'd prefer devs don't pad out their games to artificially increase playtime.

Should've done research before you bought the game and waited for it to come down in price.
 
Rowsdower

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So you want variable pricing? So what, Valhalla is worth $150 since it's a 100 hour game?

I beat RE8 in 7 hours and never played the extra modes, so clearly $60 is a scam right?

This is a bad way to look at things. Price to length doesn't work since it can be subjective.
 
Shock32

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HebrewHammer said:
I think we can all agree that Sony is going to reevaluate their pricing structure in the next year or so.

Between the new rise of chatter around game costs, mostly due to the rising pressure from Game Pass, they just don't have much of an excuse.
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Nobody can agree to that. The market will control the price, the only way they will change is if they lose money. Not based on some forum whining.
 
Tora

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Heh, yeah I paid £52 and still feel that it's expensive as hell.

I think your best bet is to just buy these games 3-4 months after launch, used. You should be able to pay £30-40 (which is still expensive, given the fact that you'd be able to cop these games for £40 day 1 not too long ago)
 
Vic20

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HebrewHammer said:
I think we can all agree that Sony is going to reevaluate their pricing structure in the next year or so.

Between the new rise of chatter around game costs, mostly due to the rising pressure from Game Pass, they just don't have much of an excuse.
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It doesn't matter how it's perceived, if it sells they'll keep the price.
 
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