Had some people on a discord whine cause I said I loved Thor in endgame.
I mean really it's a spoiler to you that fucking Thor is in an avengers movie?
I mean really it's a spoiler to you that fucking Thor is in an avengers movie?
Reached my fucking breaking point. We need to talk about Spoiler-Phobia
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Yes, I understand that surprises and twists are tools in a storytellers toolbox, but they are just that.
There are plenty of other ones in that toolbox, and knowing a detail of the plot, even if it's an important twist that's supposed to be surprising, should not be the absolutely sole reason that you cannot, possibly, ever in any sort of way, enjoy a piece of media, ever.
Even more so if that piece of media is decades old, or that piece of the narrative is absolutely minor. Like the poster above getting screamed at for saying Thor is in an Avengers movie. Or me getting yelled at for mentioning a game mechanic that is presented in the game's tutorial.
I don't mind Disney hyping up. I think it's a bit disingenuous to blame them, it's like a twist ending or cliffhanger thing. It's perfectly valid coming off the back off Infinity War killing off half of the characters, and then you wondering which ones they will further take out. And they kept a lot of the film under wraps in the marketing, during a time where marketing generally tells you the entire plot before you go.
But goddamn babies on the internet. I love resetera but the spoiler culture is just pathetic. Remember the person who got annoyed at someone saying there was no Hookshot in Breath of the Wild?
I get not wanting spoilers
I even get considering things that simply aren't spoilers... are spoilers to you. I think you're an immature child, but hey, it's a free world.
I do NOT get worrying about spoilers in heavy geek culture media and then going on an internet DISCUSSION forum and complaining about spoilers.
YOU ARE ON RESET ERA TO DISCUSS THINGS
PLEASE DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN PEOPLE DISCUSS IT.
But goddamn babies on the internet. I love resetera but the spoiler culture is just pathetic. Remember the person who got annoyed at someone saying there was no Hookshot in Breath of the Wild?
I get not wanting spoilers
I even get considering things that simply aren't spoilers... are spoilers to you. I think you're an immature child, but hey, it's a free world.
I do NOT get worrying about spoilers in heavy geek culture media and then going on an internet DISCUSSION forum and complaining about spoilers.
YOU ARE ON RESET ERA TO DISCUSS THINGS
PLEASE DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN PEOPLE DISCUSS IT.
I think 2 years is too long. If you care enough about something that the barest hint of a spoiler makes you spiral into a fit of rage, then you can damn well see it in six months
Sorry but those tweets are absolute bollocks. You absolutely can ruin a film by telling someone exactly what happens and that also counts heavily for films such as End Game.
Agree with the premise of the thread to an extent but it's amazing to see people get hysterical because someone was oversensitive in a tweet or one person somewhere got upset with someone else.
People need to chill.
What the fuck, there's SPOILERS to be had in Endgame? This is such a spoiler. What the Hell, OP?
I mean personally I don’t care for spoilers. Reading about something happening =\= watching it unfold to that point. But that’s just for me personally, ymmv.
I’d say though to err on the side of caution, just don’t ruin the fun for people by spoiling movies. There are some things that people deem as spoilers that are ridiculous however. Like people came back? Yeah we knew that because they have future movies coming up.
Like I was criticized for saying I was emotional after Endgame. Well wtf, that could go either way, it’s not a spoiler to say I felt something.
I’d say though to err on the side of caution, just don’t ruin the fun for people by spoiling movies. There are some things that people deem as spoilers that are ridiculous however. Like people came back? Yeah we knew that because they have future movies coming up.
Like I was criticized for saying I was emotional after Endgame. Well wtf, that could go either way, it’s not a spoiler to say I felt something.
Bro at that point I will go out my fucking way to make sure this shit is spoiled for them. DM's, messages, instagram, no matter what it takes !
Yeah the thread title is pretty fucked up.
Over-sensitivity happens, but the opposite is still a much bigger issue imo.
That's 100% the reasoning. Go consume this product asap so you will not be spoiled from social media posts. Encourage others to do the same too!
But social media is ingrained into peoples lifestyles, so telling others to stay off anything close to say Endgame is too hard for people to avoid. So it helps out these corporations even more since they all want to be apart of the conversation
I actually avoided this thread until after I saw Endgame just incase lol, that said I usually spoiler literally anything I feel like ever since I was young turned to the last page of a new book and read it first and then enjoyed the journey how it got there, if the ending was good of course.
For Star Wars TFA I knew tons of spoilers 6-8 months out.
I already read a couple of bits for rise of Skywalker already.
Avengers Endagme was the first film I deliberately avoided spoilers for, still got a few trickles of spooiers because i couldnt see it until last night, Lupita Nyong’o accidentally spoiled a bit in an interview, whoops.
Still though an opinion whether the films is good or not is not a spoiler, thats just ridiculous.
For Star Wars TFA I knew tons of spoilers 6-8 months out.
I already read a couple of bits for rise of Skywalker already.
Avengers Endagme was the first film I deliberately avoided spoilers for, still got a few trickles of spooiers because i couldnt see it until last night, Lupita Nyong’o accidentally spoiled a bit in an interview, whoops.
Still though an opinion whether the films is good or not is not a spoiler, thats just ridiculous.
Legit spoilers for shit you care deeply about, or are invested in WILL ruin things. Fuck off with the mindset that spoilers don't fuck up a film's ability to entertain. Your description of a crucial moment will pale compared to me actually witnessing it within context.
And there is nothing wrong with shock value. Fuck that narrow minded "quality movie must hit this criteria" bullshit. It's not hard to be courteous to a reasonable degree when talking about movie spoilers—especially for new releases.
That said, OP is 100% on point. There's the other side, and in that example, they are being absolutely insane with their expectations.
And there is nothing wrong with shock value. Fuck that narrow minded "quality movie must hit this criteria" bullshit. It's not hard to be courteous to a reasonable degree when talking about movie spoilers—especially for new releases.
That said, OP is 100% on point. There's the other side, and in that example, they are being absolutely insane with their expectations.
What gives you the right to decide how people feel though? If it's in a place where one could reasonably expect spoilers, or a very minor detail, then I agree with you, it's dumb. The person will be upset and that's just how it is. There are children and all sorts of loons online, people will get mad over stupid things.
If it's a more public place and the person has no reason to be on guard though, I don't think it's crazy to expect a small amount of caution as a courtesy for at least big releases.
I can’t see people complaining about having to be careful about spoilers as all that different from people complaining about things being “too PC these days”
If you have a grasp on basic social etiquette it really shouldn’t be eh that hard.
If you have a grasp on basic social etiquette it really shouldn’t be eh that hard.
I get that people don't like to be spoiled and I would never spoil anything, but man I just personally don't give a shit. I have never in my life not still enjoyed a piece of entertainment after being spoiled. Endgame? I actually prefer to know what happens because if I hate the ending or whatever I just won't waste my time.
I just started to finally watch GoT before season 8 began, but I already knew what happened with pretty much every major event, still loved it when I watched it.
I just started to finally watch GoT before season 8 began, but I already knew what happened with pretty much every major event, still loved it when I watched it.
I have a group of about 11 close friends who've shared a few messaging threads about games and movies for the past decade or more.
Recently one of them has come out and said he considers it a spoiler if any of us say that we've watched / played something and liked or disliked it. I think that's pretty nuts. I could understand objecting to someone saying they didn't enjoy a particular part of a film, obviously, but someone should be able to tell their oldest friends that something is good and worth watching,
Recently one of them has come out and said he considers it a spoiler if any of us say that we've watched / played something and liked or disliked it. I think that's pretty nuts. I could understand objecting to someone saying they didn't enjoy a particular part of a film, obviously, but someone should be able to tell their oldest friends that something is good and worth watching,
What I hate is the notion that because someone else is extremely spoiler-phobic, everyone else has to walk on eggshells about any details about the piece of content.
If you are super afraid of spoilers then you stay away from dicussions about the movie or game or whatever. If you consider extremely minor details to be spoilers then you need to stay off the internet on launch week.
It's on you, not me. I'm not spoiling big plot moments but I'm not tiptoeing around every minor detail either.
If you are super afraid of spoilers then you stay away from dicussions about the movie or game or whatever. If you consider extremely minor details to be spoilers then you need to stay off the internet on launch week.
It's on you, not me. I'm not spoiling big plot moments but I'm not tiptoeing around every minor detail either.
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Spoiler-phobia is insane IMO, heightened by our connectedness to everything online, and the need to feel like you are exclusively experiencing something, either with a group, or separate from that group. I will stand by the belief that if a piece of media is ruined simply by you knowing the plotline, it was not good to begin with, or your expectations of how you should experience it are flawed. Someone intentionally spoiling a plotline because they know it will bother you, is a complete asshole move and always will be. If you were accidentally spoiled, it really shouldn't ruin the piece of fiction, your day, or your attitude.
I feel that there's a correlation between Spoilerphobia and the people who seemingly value "plot twists" above all else in a story. "This movie sucked-I knew how it was going to end!" The twists and ending of a story are not the sum of it's experience. There's nuance to performances, music, pacing, etc. There's just a group of people that pin the importance and quality of a story on it's ability to have a plot twist.
I agree with the OP. If someone is just saying the movie was good, that is not spoiler. Saying a movie is good because of x, y, and z- that is spoilers.
The problem come that some people have no self control. They start with "it was good" and immediately drop into the why details without a thought of who they are talking to. Spoiler phobia would not be a thing if people were not assholes.
What is annoying is you can self police your surfing habits and interactions and some a-holes will still drop spoilers in unrelated threads. Why does anyone think it was fine to drop GOT spoilers in the Endgame threads not even minutes as events played out on TV? I personal put every GOT on ignore to avoid such things. I should not have to become a social hermit cause people can't stick to the topic of a thread.
The problem come that some people have no self control. They start with "it was good" and immediately drop into the why details without a thought of who they are talking to. Spoiler phobia would not be a thing if people were not assholes.
What is annoying is you can self police your surfing habits and interactions and some a-holes will still drop spoilers in unrelated threads. Why does anyone think it was fine to drop GOT spoilers in the Endgame threads not even minutes as events played out on TV? I personal put every GOT on ignore to avoid such things. I should not have to become a social hermit cause people can't stick to the topic of a thread.
People online got so attached to their entertainments. What's new?
Wait, don't spoil me on that.
Wait, don't spoil me on that.
Lol. My cousin is the same way kinda. He usually doesn’t want to know my reaction to a movie before he sees it because it will “color his experience” or something.
One thing I will say is, my friend got out of Endgame and the first thing he texted me was “Man, I am a wreck.” And that shit kinda bothered me because it implied a sad ending or the death of his favorite character.
Honestly I am seeing arguments in here about how something being spolied shouldn't ruin a movie and that's true.
On the other hand. If I could MiB my memory away and watch some of my favorite movies again like it's first time I would.
I'm one of the people who hates spoilers though I'm not crazy. I like going into most experiences blind or just see one or two trailers. I know that even on ERAs "spoiler free threads" there are always spoilers in an OT and people don't mark then properly, so I tend to stay off it until I consume the media I want to.
It's tough in this age to stay spoiler free. There's so much media to consume and finite time. I definitely rushed to see endgame this weekend for that very reason, even though I would not have minded waiting til next week. I knew it would get spoiled.
Also I hate the assholes in random IG comments completely unrelated to the media, attempting to spoil things.
How hard is it to put things in tags here? Why not err on the side of caution for those who don't want to be spoiled. I felt bad for UK era who had sunday's ep spoiled for them from a thread title.
Even front page CNN had insane spoilers.
I try to consume stuff when I can, and when I can't, I stay off social media.
It's tough in this age to stay spoiler free. There's so much media to consume and finite time. I definitely rushed to see endgame this weekend for that very reason, even though I would not have minded waiting til next week. I knew it would get spoiled.
Also I hate the assholes in random IG comments completely unrelated to the media, attempting to spoil things.
How hard is it to put things in tags here? Why not err on the side of caution for those who don't want to be spoiled. I felt bad for UK era who had sunday's ep spoiled for them from a thread title.
Even front page CNN had insane spoilers.
I try to consume stuff when I can, and when I can't, I stay off social media.
One last point, people here don't even use spoiler tags properly. In the Sekiro thread, they were talking about bosses and in the spoiler tag header they wrote
Like obviously you'd know who that is even though it's in "spoilers". It's like people don't give a fuck sometimes and just care about sharing their experience.
hoot hoot motherfucker
Like obviously you'd know who that is even though it's in "spoilers". It's like people don't give a fuck sometimes and just care about sharing their experience.
Prior to seeing it on the second day of release, I told my friend that I talked to a bunch of people who saw it opening night, and said that the majority of them cried at least three times. My friend considered this a spoiler and got pissed at me. Was I in the wrong?
A friend told me the same thing and I did not consider it a spoiler as I no doubt expected some emotional moving scenes already.
I guess someone who is not capable of imagining what the movie itself may have in store could be upset about this, but I think most rational people would expect that it was going to be the case.
I don't consider movie scores or people telling me they liked a movie a spoiler.
Was I in the right to be a little upset that my coworker read out loud the ending to Endgame?
Was I in the right to be a little upset that my coworker read out loud the ending to Endgame?
that shit is just stupid, i literally cannot fathom why they would do that
See, everyone is different, but I'd personally be annoyed because it intimates that a certain type of event happens. The most I like to hear from someone personally is "yes I liked it" or " no I didn't like it'.
Things that are spoilers
These are my guidelines for spoilers, I think they're fairly respectful to people who care about spoilers while also allowing me to discuss the movie.
- Direct references to major plot points
- Major character moments
- Twists
- Explanations
- Theories that require you to have seen the movie
- Controversies that are only apparent if you've seen the movie
- Post release interviews / promo material
- Trailers
- A brief plot synopsis for example some one asks, what is the last jedi about? And the other person responds with, it's about the resistance fighting the first order and Rey trying to convince Luke to help.
- Review scores
- The music
- A poster
- The title of the movie
- General opinion's on the movie
- Pre release interviews
- Pre release production diaries
These are my guidelines for spoilers, I think they're fairly respectful to people who care about spoilers while also allowing me to discuss the movie.
Most of my friends and my wife didnt even want to hear that endgame was “good”. My wife couldnt even say she liked the movie at work because they didnt want to go in with “preconceived notions”. Another friend said a spoiler-free review was saying too much when they mentioned pacing, and ranted about a headline spoiling the movie for saying there was no end credits scene.
I get not wanting plot details spoiled but freaking out over any sentiment about a movie reeks of narcissistic entitlement culture: as others have said it’s on you if you’re that sensitive. Do what I do and just turn off alerts before you see the film or temporarily delete the social apps on your phone. Also go to a midnight showing opening night always if it’s that important the longer you wait the more likely click bait headlines will pop up.
I'm not going to see the movie because if I do I'm sure it'll have plot details for the movie or whatever.
Actually no. I am savvy enough to know, at least, that when they play Tony Stark in the movie immediately leading up to this one as a cop one day away from retirement, that means something. I still haven't seen the film, but, like, come on.
Actually no. I am savvy enough to know, at least, that when they play Tony Stark in the movie immediately leading up to this one as a cop one day away from retirement, that means something. I still haven't seen the film, but, like, come on.
Someone legit got upset at me for saying the following things:
- X-Men first class was awesome.
- Aquaman is set underwater
- Split by M. Night Shamalyan was a horror movie
It's borderline psychotic behavior as far as i am concerned. Bitching about reviews spoiling how good the movie is literally the definition of insanity.
And this is coming from someone who hasnt watched a single tv spot since 2003 when Matrix Reloaded's tv spots came out, and someone who closes their eyes when trailers play in front of movies. Been doing this for my favorite movies for almost 18 years now and yet i have never gotten upset at someone liking a movie.
And i out of most people here have more than enough reason to be wary of spoilers. Here are all the random things that have been spoiled for me :
- Blank and Blank die at the end of Matrix Revolutions.
- Blank kills Blank in Harry Potter
- Blank killer gets redeeemed in Harry Potter totally ruining the best moment in the series
- Blank King kills Blank with a spear in Game Of thrones
- Blank wins the Trial by Combat duel in Game of thrones. This was actually a very mean prank because Blank actually dies. I nearly had a heart attack.
And several others i cant think of right now.
- X-Men first class was awesome.
- Aquaman is set underwater
- Split by M. Night Shamalyan was a horror movie
It's borderline psychotic behavior as far as i am concerned. Bitching about reviews spoiling how good the movie is literally the definition of insanity.
And this is coming from someone who hasnt watched a single tv spot since 2003 when Matrix Reloaded's tv spots came out, and someone who closes their eyes when trailers play in front of movies. Been doing this for my favorite movies for almost 18 years now and yet i have never gotten upset at someone liking a movie.
And i out of most people here have more than enough reason to be wary of spoilers. Here are all the random things that have been spoiled for me :
- Blank and Blank die at the end of Matrix Revolutions.
- Blank kills Blank in Harry Potter
- Blank killer gets redeeemed in Harry Potter totally ruining the best moment in the series
- Blank King kills Blank with a spear in Game Of thrones
- Blank wins the Trial by Combat duel in Game of thrones. This was actually a very mean prank because Blank actually dies. I nearly had a heart attack.
And several others i cant think of right now.
The problem with spoilers and non-spoilers is people start to define what is/isn't a spoiler.
Some people think amount of time of a certain character in a movie is a spoiler, others don't.
And I literally don't watch the trailer to go in blind. So thanks for that.
I told my Sister to bring tissues and she got pissed. It does insinuate certain things. I get it. It's best just to keep quiet.
