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Had my first 5 friends session yesterday, it was absolutely awesome as we all hoped it would be. We wanted to get to 200$ to egt the permanent posse and stop leaving one of us out of the posse and not receiving any rewards for missions.
How does the permanent posse work? Yesterday I ended up first of my friends to arrive at 200$, so I created the posse and invited my friends. Can they now group together at more than 4 even if I am not online or do they have to pay 200$ too to do so?
Also, maybe I didn't find it but even with the permanent posse you cannot decide where to set up your camp? That would suck. At least every one has his own bed at camp ^^
Really enjoying it so far, the stranger missions are really fun when in group and some other posse tries to mess your mission up :)
How does the permanent posse work? Yesterday I ended up first of my friends to arrive at 200$, so I created the posse and invited my friends. Can they now group together at more than 4 even if I am not online or do they have to pay 200$ too to do so?
Also, maybe I didn't find it but even with the permanent posse you cannot decide where to set up your camp? That would suck. At least every one has his own bed at camp ^^
Really enjoying it so far, the stranger missions are really fun when in group and some other posse tries to mess your mission up :)
Years of playing MMORPG made me immun to long hours of boring farming.
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The majority of my experience in RDO so far has been more like the first pic tbh
You need a rifle rather than a repeater. I use the bolt action.
Cheers, just got the carbine and varmint atm, have a bow too but need improved arrows and no idea how to get them online
R* really needs to deal with all the AFK xp farming idiots. This morning I got put in a lobby with six others, 5 of which were AFK. The match went on forever, because apparently a certain amount of players need to finish before the countdown starts.
If you put in a bullshit, grindy leveling system, people are going to develop bullshit exploits to deal with it.R* really needs to deal with all the AFK xp farming idiots. This morning I got put in a lobby with six others, 5 of which were AFK. The match went on forever, because apparently a certain amount of players need to finish before the countdown starts.
That people feel the need to do shit like this indicates that the game design is rooted.
No, fuck these AFK'ers. If they're so against this "bullshit" leveling system, they can always play another game. But no... let's put a rubber band on our controller and annoy the shit out of people that try to play the game properly. Fuck that.
R* really needs to deal with all the AFK xp farming idiots. This morning I got put in a lobby with six others, 5 of which were AFK. The match went on forever, because apparently a certain amount of players need to finish before the countdown starts.
Damn, GTA Online to a tee.
This sort of shit was so common in GTA Online matches, especially those that paid 2x XP or cash. So sad to see that Rockstar simply refused to learn any lessons from how much of a designed mess that game was.
In GTA Online this would take the form in one example of those adversary modes where one team has to escort a VIP to the end of a level, while the other team has to kill the VIP. The rewards system, though, rewards a long match above and beyond anything else, and because there was no auto team balancing (or it could be toggled off), you'd get one team of 6 protectors, another team of 1 or 2 assassins, and the VIP. Within short order the VIP would get to the escape point and then just stand behind cover while all of the defenders would stand there, and if you were an assassin trying to play the mode they'd just mow you down, but in most cases, the assassins would just stand there... finally with 10 seconds left after a 10-min match of literally waiting at the finish doing nothing, the VIP would cross the line and everybody would get $40k, which would work out to like... $240,000/pay-per-hour which was very high at the time. So it ruined the mode. Anybody who tried to win or play it straight would be booted or harrassed.
What's sad is they've designed the game this way. They didn't design it to not be fun but they designed it ot maximize shark card/bar sales, which leads players to do shit like this and ruin it for everyone who *just wants to play a game* ... instead of exploiting the game modes for the highest pay per hour bull shit.
Sucks.
Only good thing is that most people are way, way more skeptical of RD Online than they were GTA Online.
Sure, fuck the AFKers too, but this is the fault of Rockstar's design. Whenever you look at videogame players doing the wrong thing follow the incentives. The game has perverse incentives: It rewards people who don't play the game, and punishes people who play the game. GTA Online had this exact problem with the overwhelming majority of modes (seems like everything but races and the 4 heists, tho even races weren't immune... For instance, I'm sure everybody remembers playing the race that went around the penitentiary because you could do a high lap race in a short period of time to maximize money, so everybody would vote over and over and over to play that race, which was the simplest, most boring race in the game... Rockstar's response wasn't to make other races pay more, but rather, they patched it so that you could only do a race once before it started paying 50% reward), and Rockstar ignored it because this sort of bull shit encourages people to buy cash cards.
I'm sure Rockstar would like some balance where they make fun online modes and also have people buying cash cards, but for all of their talent in creating amazing single player games, they show no talent in making balanced, exciting, fun to play, rewarding multiplayer games. It's just a different mentality for them. Their online games are developed primarily from the perspective of making an XP grind to encourage cash cards. Games like Fortnite, Rocket League, PUBG, etc., are the opposite: Their is opportunity for grinding to sell cash cards, but the games didn't start out primarily to serve that master... Rocket League is a great example of a game that knew that one day they'd monetize the hell out of the game, but they first started by doing one thing really, really well, with the best possible gameplay experience, AND THEN knew that later they'd cash in on that. Rockstar's methodology is the opposite: How can we cash in on this, and then build shitty gameplay systems around that.
An economist should do a study of Rockstar's online games because they're a entry-level course in perverse incentives. It's kind of expected that they'd get it wrong in GTA Online which seemed overly ambitious, but here we are 5 years later, and they've made the same mistakes in Red Dead Online.
Rockstar online games in a nutshell. This is the same thing with whatever the bogus CEO missions were in GTA Online. They had one of the highest 'pay per hour' rewards, so people would modify their routers to get put into solo public lobbies and fly a helicopter around the map for an hour a day to make their daily bread.
In RD Online, it's fishing. I kinda wonder how many people would ever play a fishing game for the fun of it.
This game is currently for sale on PS4 and Xbox:
Kinda wonder whether anybody spending hours a day fishing in Red Dead Online would be interested in buying an actual fishing game, or if they're fishing because it's the most lucrative form of work in what is supposed to be a game.
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Yep. Some posters in this thread that based on their posts are basically hate playing this are now doing the rubber band trick. They were talking about it a few pages back. Wanted to tell them to fuck off but I probably would have been banned even though they are literally ruining the game for others.
LOL yeah people get fucking PISSED in this game. I smoked some guy yesterday and I guess he lost his pelts and whatnot - I have NEVER heard someone get so mad in a videogame in my life. haha
I don't get why some folks just go totally nuclear in this. Nothing in this game is that big of a deal. lol
Sorry, didn't mean to suggest it was a problem just with XP or levelling, the economy is definitely the bigger problem, but I mostly use them one in the same with currency. In online grindy games, levelling/XP and money are essentially same thing -- they're just different types of currency, you "earn" both by playing the game, and when you earn a certain amount you're rewarded with content/activity.
If some activity/content in a game is tied behind a hypothetical "Level 20 Experience Lock," it's behaviorally the same as some activity/content tied behind $20,000, they're two different types of currency, and most levelling systems work similarly to money-like currency... Sure, you never "lose XP" when you unlock that level 20 thing, but because most games have you gain less XP over time (e.g., XP gained when you're level 20 is worth much less than XP gained when you're at level 2), it's not appreciably different than more valuable items costing more money.
Ultimately most grindy games try to balance levelling with currency so even if you spend, say $100 of real money on in-game money like currency, you're locked out from other content via the levelling/XP currency. Many games even sell both, but under the guise of special edition DLCs... GTA Online did this, selling cash cards since launch, but then also releasing ... "Criminal Enterprise" special editions and other pointless bull shit that basically gave you head starts on things that would have normally had to be earned via XP/levelling.
Having a free shotgun early gives you a huge advantage.
I think I'm kind of at a crossroads with the online right now. I can't stand to do another carriage retrieval or mail delivery job, and all I really want to do is fish, but that stupidly doesn't give XP.
They seriously need to add more ways to progress in this.
They seriously need to add more ways to progress in this.
If you're talking about how to access them in-game, different shop owners will have it all for free for you to get. Gunsmith has your free volcanic, pump-action and varmint, stables has your Thoroughbred, general store has your two free outfits.
That should work for the Online as well?
The Volcanic Pistol, for example, has a price. I got it free on single player, though.
It should. I got it for free. Even another one for free when I got the off-hand holster unlocked.
Last night I was having a real rough go of it. I kept getting disconnects (which has been a huge problem for me 10+ a night usually) and every time it wouldn't save me going to the stable to get my horse back after it was killed by a griefer the previous night. So I was stuck with a stupid Scrawny Nag, rushing to the stable and then getting a disconnect lmfao
I was almost ready to pack it up until my buddy came on and we played a bit. I accidentally spent $100 on the second stable (which wiped out all but $6 I worked damn hard for) and my horse got knocked out by accidentally hitting a small bump and got stuck in a really hard to reach spot. When I finally made it to him, I had no horse revives on me.....
Thinking I had been cursed and it was a good night to end it early my friend looked at the map and said "hey...uh..we're the only people in this lobby???????" To my surprise..yeah we were the only two people in our online lobby. For the next 4 hours we were completely alone together. No one ever came in and we had absolutely no disconnects or other errors. I can say safely that anyone who doesn't want something like this is a lunatic. It was so relaxing and wonderful not getting kicked and being griefed.
Im just sad I had to go to bed for work in the morning or I would have tried to stay on as long as possible
I was almost ready to pack it up until my buddy came on and we played a bit. I accidentally spent $100 on the second stable (which wiped out all but $6 I worked damn hard for) and my horse got knocked out by accidentally hitting a small bump and got stuck in a really hard to reach spot. When I finally made it to him, I had no horse revives on me.....
Thinking I had been cursed and it was a good night to end it early my friend looked at the map and said "hey...uh..we're the only people in this lobby???????" To my surprise..yeah we were the only two people in our online lobby. For the next 4 hours we were completely alone together. No one ever came in and we had absolutely no disconnects or other errors. I can say safely that anyone who doesn't want something like this is a lunatic. It was so relaxing and wonderful not getting kicked and being griefed.
Im just sad I had to go to bed for work in the morning or I would have tried to stay on as long as possible
MP Large gives you about 100+ xp per match, Story Missions and Stranger Missions can help you rank up quicker as well.
Man, this beta is so fun. In the single player I feel terrible when I do anything bad but goofing around with my friends has been so ridiculous. I don't grief any real people but the kind of stupid things we've done make us laugh our butts off. Especially if we end up killing each other on accident in the meantime.
We robbed a train and this happened:
When we got back to camp I didn't have anything to cook so...
We robbed a train and this happened:
When we got back to camp I didn't have anything to cook so...
Do stranger missions and free roam events whenever they appear. Stranger missions can get you between 180-380 XP on average. Free roam events can reward you up to 500 XP, if you win them that is. But even getting second or third place rewards you with a solid amount. Just don't do the dispatch rider event. It's awful.
Shoot birds as well as you're riding around. Each kill is 10 XP. Since birds are usually always in flocks and are everywhere you can rack up a good amount of XP.
PVP matches can get you a good amount, but it also depends on just how good you are, as the winners get the most amount of XP.
At some point you need to question what the fuck your are doing in your life if you are attaching rubber bands to a controller to level up in a game you don't enjoy playing.
You still have to reach the level to unlock them though, right?
Ahh, you're talking about the Ultimate Ed. My bad, I thought you were talking about the Special Ed.
This is driving me fucking nuts.
Spawnnin Rhodes. Pay to fast travel to valentine. Slaughter pigs. Head to butcher. Freeze. Total game crash. Turn back on. Spawn in Rhodes. Pay tonfast travel to Valentine. This server has someone already doing the pigs. Go to sheep. Skin. Lose connection. Try again. Spawn in Rhodes.
We will see what happens now.
Spawnnin Rhodes. Pay to fast travel to valentine. Slaughter pigs. Head to butcher. Freeze. Total game crash. Turn back on. Spawn in Rhodes. Pay tonfast travel to Valentine. This server has someone already doing the pigs. Go to sheep. Skin. Lose connection. Try again. Spawn in Rhodes.
We will see what happens now.
Who said me and Edge don't?
It's barebones and has a shit ton of frustrations but it's fun with mates.
People attacking the innocent, domestic animals now for money now? I will not stand for this behavior. I must bring justice to these rustlers.
Also, why not just kill them for the pigs?
Jesus, we are enjoying the game, probably more than most here, who comes up with the idea that we don't?
We're just fixing the horrible currency balancing by ourself to make it even more enjoyable. That's the joke about it. We would enjoy it even more if we don't have to grind 500 hours to buy a decent horse (so much to only cosmetic stuff cost real money currency like some sites say).
And to speak some truth here, at least we don't run around, killing everyone we see and annoy other people to death who just wants to enjoy the game, like some other folks here in the thread proudly brag about.
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Wtf
I rode way up into the grizzlies to where the single player starts.
I try and pitch a camp up there and pick the Grizzlies and twice it pitched in Lemoyne.
What a waste of money. I want a camp up here.
Tried twice more. Changing it to NEARBY and it's pitching in New Austin.
This is ridiculous.
I rode way up into the grizzlies to where the single player starts.
I try and pitch a camp up there and pick the Grizzlies and twice it pitched in Lemoyne.
What a waste of money. I want a camp up here.
Tried twice more. Changing it to NEARBY and it's pitching in New Austin.
This is ridiculous.
Low life, no? I think it flashes blue when you're low on stamina
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