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people just rubberband their controller and leave their console on overnight. you get like 3 levels, $250 and half a gold bar in that time. it's insane.
Mannnnnnn, this is perhaps indicative of Rockstar's failure of actually creating good activities that people actually want to play on. Or perhaps to be more accurate, their failure of making a large portion of activities available in this so unrewarding in terms of time investments vs rewards gained.

It's like there are so many things in here purposefully designed to annoy the player as much as possible just to nudge them to use shortcuts (a.k.a. MTX) to ease that experience, haha. This is my first Rockstar online experience (aside from like, half an hour in GTA Online) so I am actually rather surprised about all these aspects.
 

Edge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Celle, Germany
Yep, playing games the way the dev intended = rough childhood. Nailed it.
I don't think they intended that people run around and kill you over and over and over again and annoy you with shit like lassoing you, killing, lassoing, killing 10 times for no f'n reason while you search for a damn treasure, since the guy(s) doesn't even get something for doing it. It's just stupid.

It's failed and bad game design and not any intention. It's literally broken that we don't have any wanted system working for PVP at all.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Wait what? Exp and money return for people doing AFK?

You mean people purposefully set up a race where people are going AFK so that the winner will get money for doing basically nothing???

Hahah what?
I was pvping this afternoon and a bunch of games weren't even starting because no one was readying up even though the lobby was full and I've seen quite a few players walking around in circles during pvp games.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Terana
None of this should be a surprise seeing how they've handled online play in 2K or GTA. They'll make the grind as bad as possible to get you to pay up. This is all Take Two
 
Nov 1, 2017
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While I am at it, hahaha, what are the weapons that people recommend to buy? The only weapon I have outside the basic stuff is Varmint Rifle--what is the loadout that you folks would recommend?
The order I got my weapons, and I think is a pretty good rule of thumb: Varmint Rifle, Bolt Action Rifle, Pump shotgun, Lancaster repeater, Schofield Revolver (I actually bought a bow somewhere in there but without easy access to different arrows the bow isn't versatile enough for me to recommend it).

Loadout for travelling around I like Varmint Rifle and Bolt Action so I can quickly kill any animal I want. If I'm approaching a town with lots of players I'll switch one out for the shotgun just to be safe.

Loadout for PVP I like the pump shotgun and either the Bolt Action or the Lancaster, depending on how open the map is.
 
I was pvping this afternoon and a bunch of games weren't even starting because no one was readying up even though the lobby was full and I've seen quite a few players walking around in circles during pvp games.
Seemed so silly. So basically they're just chasing that participation XP/Money? I don't favor PvP so I don't usually play PvP modes in games that have them, but are the rewards really that bad or the activities really that un-fun for people to do that?

The order I got my weapons, and I think is a pretty good rule of thumb: Varmint Rifle, Bolt Action Rifle, Pump shotgun, Lancaster repeater, Schofield Revolver (I actually bought a bow somewhere in there but without easy access to different arrows the bow isn't versatile enough for me to recommend it).

Loadout for travelling around I like Varmint Rifle and Bolt Action so I can quickly kill any animal I want. If I'm approaching a town with lots of players I'll switch one out for the shotgun just to be safe.

Loadout for PVP I like the pump shotgun and either the Bolt Action or the Lancaster, depending on how open the map is.
I am thinking of getting Bow actually after my Varmint. So you think it would be better if I save up for Bolt Action Rifle first then? Hmmmm.
 

Edge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Celle, Germany
According to some people here it’s all Rockstars fault for making them work hard for leveling up and earning money.
So they “play” their $60 game by putting a rubber band on their controllers, because that’s how they apparently have “fun”.

Give me a break. We're doing it overnight for a few hours while we sleep and not the whole day or while sitting besides and instead of playing it. Calm down.
 
Give me a break. We're doing it overnight for a few hours while we sleep and not the whole day or while sitting besides and instead of playing it. Calm down.
Dude, you can cut and slice it anyway you want. It’s a shitty tactic. Period.
But hey, rubberband away, knock yourself out. Luckily for us you’re only fucking us over 20% of the time, right?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Washington
You're mistakenly applying this in PVP where every action someone does has an effect on the game, in which, an AFK player most certainly has an effect on the game. A free kill for an opposing team, taking up a spot that could have been for a player who actually wanted to play the game and put forth the effort to actually win, simply wasting everyone's time depending on the game mode. It's a shitty thing to do, no matter how much someone wants to rationalize it being fine.



Give it some time, and then you'll start enjoying it. Or you can at least enjoy the idea that you're helping someone else have fun. Which is fun in its own way.
What you enjoy is not what I enjoy so quit assuming that cause you enjoy it I do (because it's offensive honestly). I know what I find fun, thankyouverymuch. And I've played enough GTA that I can absolutely tell you that no, in time I don't find I enjoy it. It just makes it even more annoying (I've managed to survive by making sure I either am playing it alone or with people who agree to be passive to each other. Hell.. I found playing with others can be fun when I can trust they aren't trying to destroy me).

And no, I don't get joy out of the fact I'm helping some asshole who could care less if I'm having fun and in most probability wants me to be annoyed cause it's fun to annoy people (why do you think the term is called griefer?). Why the hell would I want them to have fun? I want them to be as miserable as they are making me... so no, that does not give me any joy at all. Fuck that shit. I'm not that generous or that much a doormat that I don't care that they want to make me miserable as long as they are having fun. What kind of twisted logic is that?!

Once again, are you kidding me?!!!!

Let me guess, you love greifing people and have some inane idea that some how they like it. Probably cause you have no empathy or understanding that other people enjoy different things than you do. And in an open world game like RDR there are plenty of ways to enjoy it that don't involve PvP (or worse, just coming up on some one minding their own business and messing up what they were doing).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Today I was cautiously trying to make it to the Rhodes Butcher with some birds stowed. Made it, sold and then end up kneeling and petting a dog for a bit. Some sick fuck killed the dog as I was petting it - I was livid. The lowest of low, blood everywhere my character abruptly getting up. I shotgunned the two guys in the posse and rolled out to the city- I was so mad baha.
 

Edge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dude, you can cut and slice it anyway you want. It’s a shitty tactic. Period.
But hey, rubberband away, knock yourself out. Luckily for us you’re only fucking us over 20% of the time, right?

Still a million times better than anyone who's griefing and annoying people in free roam.

And yes, you're only slightly affected in rare team games, nice from you to agree here at least.
 
I was pvping this afternoon and a bunch of games weren't even starting because no one was readying up even though the lobby was full and I've seen quite a few players walking around in circles during pvp games.
Seemed so silly. So basically they're just chasing that participation XP/Money? I don't favor PvP so I don't usually play PvP modes in games that have them, but are the rewards really that bad or the activities really that un-fun for people to do that?

The order I got my weapons, and I think is a pretty good rule of thumb: Varmint Rifle, Bolt Action Rifle, Pump shotgun, Lancaster repeater, Schofield Revolver (I actually bought a bow somewhere in there but without easy access to different arrows the bow isn't versatile enough for me to recommend it).

Loadout for travelling around I like Varmint Rifle and Bolt Action so I can quickly kill any animal I want. If I'm approaching a town with lots of players I'll switch one out for the shotgun just to be safe.

Loadout for PVP I like the pump shotgun and either the Bolt Action or the Lancaster, depending on how open the map is.
I am thinking of getting Bow actually after my Varmint. So you think it would be better if I save up for Bolt Action Rifle first then? Hmmmm.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,235
Washington
I don't think they intended that people run around and kill you over and over and over again and annoy you with shit like lassoing you, killing, lassoing, killing 10 times for no f'n reason while you search for a damn treasure, since the guy(s) doesn't even get something for doing it. It's just stupid.

It's failed and bad game design and not any intention. It's literally broken that we don't have any wanted system working for PVP at all.
You know, I'll agree with the poeple arguing for griefing on this one. Rockstar fully designed the game for people doing that. Not because they thought it was fun (in fact they're depending on it not being fun for the people getting griefed). But because they knew it would be frustrating and it would help sell gold bars (after all now you gotta buy hte next big gun to help stop those people from annoying you. Or you gotta buy the gold bar to buy what you were working for so you can stop working for it and not ahve to worry about all those griefers). Oh, and bonus, the griefers will want the good stuff fast too so they can grief easier.

R* likes griefers. They depend on them. Shark card and gold bar salesmen. This is the much more offensive thing about the game design and microtransactions and how they have influenced it then the grind.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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What you enjoy is not what I enjoy so quit assuming that cause you enjoy it I do (because it's offensive honestly). I know what I find fun, thankyouverymuch. And I've played enough GTA that I can absolutely tell you that no, in time I don't find I enjoy it. It just makes it even more annoying (I've managed to survive by making sure I either am playing it alone or with people who agree to be passive to each other. Hell.. I found playing with others can be fun when I can trust they aren't trying to destroy me).

And no, I don't get joy out of the fact I'm helping some asshole who could care less if I'm having fun and in most probability wants me to be annoyed cause it's fun to annoy people (why do you think the term is called griefer?). Why the hell would I want them to have fun? I want them to be as miserable as they are making me... so no, that does not give me any joy at all. Fuck that shit. I'm not that generous or that much a doormat that I don't care that they want to make me miserable as long as they are having fun. What kind of twisted logic is that?!

Once again, are you kidding me?!!!!

Let me guess, you love greifing people and have some inane idea that some how they like it. Probably cause you have no empathy or understanding that other people enjoy different things than you do. And in an open world game like RDR there are plenty of ways to enjoy it that don't involve PvP (or worse, just coming up on some one minding their own business and messing up what they were doing).
Should I tell you that part of the post was an obvious joke, or should I let you write another essay that is half parentheticals.

Either way, y'all need to lighten up a little. Take a bullet to the face and laugh about it. I certainly did when this happened, shit had me rolling.

 
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Toni

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Who said you can't be a cowgirl in RDR2 and be pretty 🤠

My Cowgirl. Nailed it on my first try.

Pretty happy with how she turned out. (And she looks like Chloe from Uncharted 😂)
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Good for you buddy. How old are you? 10? 12?



According to some people here it’s all Rockstars fault for making them work hard for leveling up and earning money.
So they “play” their $60 game by putting a rubber band on their controllers, because that’s how they apparently have “fun”.
38 year old not giving a single fuck about afking in terrible mp modes that have embarrassing autolock.

Be mad as I watch TV whilst exploting shitty mp modes
 
Still a million times better than anyone who's griefing and annoying people in free roam.

And yes, you're only slightly affected in rare team games, nice from you to agree here at least.
So, if people keep their griefing at 20% of their playtime they’re good to go? Ok! 😉


Who said you can't be a cowgirl in RDR2 and be pretty 🤠

My Cowgirl. Nailed it on my first try.

Pretty happy with how she turned out. (And she looks like Chloe from Uncharted 😂)
Holy shit, that’s the best one I’ve seen thus far. Good job!

38 year old not giving a single fuck about afking in terrible mp modes that have embarrassing autolock.

Be mad as I watch TV whilst exploting shitty mp modes
You really should read your own post and see how pathetic this sounds.
“I’ll play this shitty game anyway I like, while I watch tv”
lol
 
Oct 28, 2017
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You know, I'll agree with the poeple arguing for griefing on this one. Rockstar fully designed the game for people doing that. Not because they thought it was fun (in fact they're depending on it not being fun for the people getting griefed). But because they knew it would be frustrating and it would help sell gold bars (after all now you gotta buy hte next big gun to help stop those people from annoying you. Or you gotta buy the gold bar to buy what you were working for so you can stop working for it and not ahve to worry about all those griefers). Oh, and bonus, the griefers will want the good stuff fast too so they can grief easier.

R* likes griefers. They depend on them. Shark card and gold bar salesmen. This is the much more offensive thing about the game design and microtransactions and how they have influenced it then the grind.
I have to disagree with this take. Gold bars or good weapons don't help to deal with griefers. I'd think it more likely that the hostile, one dimensional community around this game will drive players off and hurt the bottom line. So far RDR2 has a one-two punch of not having interesting things to spend money on plus a playerbase that makes engaging with the game shitty and frustrating. I don't think this is by design, I think it's because they fucked up.

I forgave a lot with GTA because the core moment to moment gameplay was so fun (ie driving fast cars) and the grind loops were deep and engaging after a faltering opening year. I really thought they would have put some business type loops into RDR from the start because they worked so well in GTA. At the moment I'm struggling to want to play RDR over other games because what's the point? I need to level up to get a fishing rod - but what am I looking for money for? It's an empty shell of a game.
 

Alex840

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After level 14 it's fishing salmons/trouts. before I would say hunting.
Ok, thanks. That's one of my favorite things to do in the game anyway, so that works for me.

Looking online isn't really helpful. Most articles just say "Doing anything gets you money".
 
Jan 10, 2018
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Umeå, Sweden
I just cannot bring myself to understand how players are able to use auto—aim with an extreme headshot multiplier against one another. It’s so borderline stupid that I’m starting to wonder if Rockstar has ever played multiplayer shooters before. And these spawn locations, don’t even get me started on that. All in all this is a griefers paradise. You have all the tools you need in order to abuse people.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Should I tell you that part of the post was an obvious joke, or should I let you write another essay that is half parentheticals.

Either way, y'all need to lighten up a little. Take a bullet to the face and laugh about it. I certainly did when this happened, shit had me rolling.

Yeah, that doesn't look fun whatsoever.
 
Dec 4, 2018
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Framate is utterly ridiculous when in a town, at least on base ps4. Guess this is the game that really shows how old the ps4 is.
I'm playing in 4k, on the PS4 Pro, and I'm noticing really terrible framerate riding my Arabian through Saint Denis and occasionally Valentine.

I would eyeball it in the 15-20 fps range. And it seems a bit worse at night in Saint Denis, but not by much.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I haven't read every page of this thread, but I haven't seen this mentioned yet..

Seems like if you do the stranger mission just east of Emerald Station, Joe, it'll put you into a permanent solo lobby. Not sure if it matters if you fail it or not. Last night I failed the mission and had a lobby all to myself for hours until I went to bed.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I'm playing in 4k, on the PS4 Pro, and I'm noticing really terrible framerate riding my Arabian through Saint Denis and occasionally Valentine.

I would eyeball it in the 15-20 fps range. And it seems a bit worse at night in Saint Denis, but not by much.
Yeah, I'm not that sensitive to framerate, but this is on the verge of being unplayable sometimes.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Sorry for the late reply.

Basically there's the passive ability slots (Hold LB and push Y to open up the ability loadout menu) and the first slot is for dead-eye. Now, it seems that my game had bugged up and I got to use any ability I wanted, because I changed it up a couple hours ago and now it's showing the final two as locked to Lv44 & Lv50.

The ability I was talking about is the Lv50 one. While dead-eye is active, players can't lock onto you when they pull the left trigger, they have to free aim at you. The first tier of it drains dead eye insanely quick, so I mostly used it for situations where I wanted to quickly pop out and I knew 2-3 other people would pop out instantly to try and get me.

I swapped out to try the one that lets you paint targets to shoot them automatically like in singleplayer, but now I regret swapping it out. :P
 
I haven't read every page of this thread, but I haven't seen this mentioned yet..

Seems like if you do the stranger mission just east of Emerald Station, Joe, it'll put you into a permanent solo lobby. Not sure if it matters if you fail it or not. Last night I failed the mission and had a lobby all to myself for hours until I went to bed.
Every stranger mission does if it has a cutscene
 
Oct 30, 2017
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I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but yesterday, some random guy put an assassination bounty on my head out of nowhere. I was fishing and minding my own business when the message popped up. I went to check the map and I saw his red dot coming my way. There was a timer on screen ( i think it was 7 minutes) to try to survive. Anyway, I packed my shit and rode straight at him and was able to kill him first. The timer kept going and I saw him respawn a bit further so I rode the other way with about 5 minutes left. He was never able to catch me so I ended up ''winning'' that event and it gave me some cash and XP.

Anyone else got this? Is this a new option they added? I really wish R* would give more info about everything.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but yesterday, some random guy put an assassination bounty on my head out of nowhere. I was fishing and minding my own business when the message popped up. I went to check the map and I saw his red dot coming my way. There was a timer on screen ( i think it was 7 minutes) to try and survive. Anyway, I packed my shit and rode straight at him and was able to kill him first. The timer kept going and I saw him respawn a bit further so I rode the other way with about 5 minutes left. He was never able to catch me so I ended up ''winning'' that event and it gave me some cash and XP.

Anyone else got this? Is this a new option they added? I really wish R* would give more info about everything.
This is fantastic.
 
Dec 4, 2018
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New to this site, but happy to be here. After years of PC elitism, I shelled out for the RDR2 PS4 Pro bundle and have been very happy with the purchase.

To the topic at hand, my character is at about level 21, and I have some tips to help y'all along. I shelled out for the seven-person persistent posse (Selena y Los Bandidos Guapos) so I'll drop my PSN handle at the end of this post if anyone wants to be friends. Unfortunately, won't be online for the next week or so thanks to crunch for law school finals.

A big complaint I've heard about Red Dead Online is, aside from a burdensome economy, the needless cruelty of other players. As noted by others in this thread, this behavior, often called "griefing," is absolutely encouraged by the designers of this game. Other players in your session are constantly visible in your mini-map by vaguely threatening pink blips, which turn red once hostilities have commenced. These are just other players, they may be friendly, but you have no way of knowing that. So when a pink blip comes towards your character, it is natural to turn and fire blindly. You don't see a name, you see a gaming handle in pink. And on PSN, that name is usually either vaguely or explicitly murderous and/or narcotics adjacent.

Subvert the design by maybe having your lantern out when you ride by, instead of your gun. I've seen people use the whistle function to indicate friendliness. You could aim in another direction, then press up on the d-pad. This aims your gun at the sky and you can fire a few times to let 'em know you mean business. It is actually way cool when it works, which is more often than not.

When you start a Stranger mission, people will come over and try to screw you over, because the game has let them know that you are trying to deliver a wagon, the mail, whatever, and your goal is now their goal. They get XP for it, it's on their map, and they probably have you muted or don't have a mic themselves. So don't get too sore when that happens, and consider avoiding Stranger missions all-together as a solo endeavor, as they don't do much for you in terms of XP or money.

I've actually made a few friends on Red Dead Online, a new experience coming from PC, and one of these friends has word "Killah" in his handle and named his horse "My Horse." A maniac, in other words. I walked him through some basics and it became clear that he was one of those nightmare players I'd read about on forums. The thing is, he kept telling me about how the game kept giving him awards and XP for "griefing" behavior: killing other players unprovoked, etc... So, again, the game wants to bring out the worst in players.

The lesson I have for solo online folks: keep an eye on the mini-map and try to avoid other players until you have leveled up some/ have a good load-out. For example, only drop off stuff at the butcher when the area around him has quieted down.

Play the online story, it puts you in matchmaking, and this is a good time to talk to the people they set you up with. Odds are you'll find folks on mic replaying story missions, and they might be happy to posse up with you and play more of the story, since everyone benefits. But FYI, there isn't much of a story to the story, and if you see that most of the four folks you are playing with are voting to skip the cutscene...also vote to skip the cutscene. You won't be missing much, I've seen the missions a few times now starting friends off in RDO. It's kind of a nothing story.

Or if you are all voting on an outcome in a particular decision, ask if they've already seen one of the outcomes, and want to see how it turns out if you chose a different way.

Another note on posses, if you are "Posse Leader," the waypoint you set is visible with a blue dot and a blue path to the rest of your posse. It is considerate to keep up with where everyone is going and keeping that waypoint updated. Also there are various awards associated with being Posse Leader or Posse Follower for x# of hours, so ask if anyone else wants a turn for leader on their end.

If you are a PS4 player, Sony has a 30 day exclusive for some free items. You will want to stop at the Stable, Fence, and a General Store/Tailor. There, you can get a red-coat Arabian, high-roller revolver, and the Grizzly Outfit for free.

Re: the Arabian, you will need to sell your old horse or buy a second stable slot for $100. Then you'll have to equip a saddle on it, and go ahead and pick up a brush from Horse Provisions. Only $3.50. Every single person I've shown this to has had trouble, it really is terrible design. But this horse really flies across the map and makes the game much more bearable.

Bonding works the same as single player. When mounted, tap or hold L3 to pet your horse or calm it down in between urging it along. You can actually see your horse's stamina core recover when you are riding it hard and do this. Brush it, and I believe as in single-player, leading your horse is one of the best ways to get the bond up quickly.

While you might want to buy horse insurance in the future for the Arabian, it is cost-prohibitive at 5 (!) Gold bars. However, the insurance is not strictly necessary. When your horse becomes critically injured and you can't revive it, go to: left on d-pad, stables, and heal your horse. A two minute timer will commence. An extremely shitty nag will replace it in the meantime. But you don't need to ride the nag all the way to the stable though, instead: flee the nag, then whistle, and your Arabian will come to you. Horse revives are pretty expensive (10 bucks), but I like having a bunch for my posse...and I can't resist reviving even hostile player horses.

You'll need to eat way more than in single-player, and that goes for your horse as well. Stock up on classic oatcakes from your catalog (you pick up catalog orders from the post office), as they can feed both you and your horse and are good for keeping those cores up.

If you anticipate a hostile player and have pelts on your horse, hitch your horse to a random tree and the pelts won't despawn. Also if you kinda stand your horse over a carcass it skips the skinning animation (by the way, if you down a three star, you can get money for the perfect skin AND a perfect carcass).

Also, buy the Varmint Rifle. It is necessary to get perfect exotic bird feathers/carcasses, and also apparently very overpowered in pvp if you have your "flick headshot" technique down.

Re: the Grizzly Outfit. You can buy it from your catalog (hold left on d-pad), but I would not advise it. It might save you some frustration in the future as there is a bug where the individual pieces of the Grizzly Outfit don't show up in your wardrobe. You would have to equip the outfit and then change the bits so just buy it from the store.

Fishing is probably the most-fun way to make money, along with hunting. It might be worth spending a gold bar on one of the lures, so you can get reliable catches of the more valuable fish. Either river or lake lure works exactly the same. Be careful though as you can still lose the line ..and the lure with it, if you reel a struggling and large fish.

Don't buy bait (worms and crickets) from the catalog as there is a bug currently where you can't use them from the bait wheel if you buy thenmax amount from the catalog.

Also reset those gold buckle awards, you keep the buckle and get a couple easy nuggets.

Remember to keep up with your active and passive cards as you level up. They cost 50 bucks or so.

Happy trails!

PSN: svvagerific
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Argentina
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but yesterday, some random guy put an assassination bounty on my head out of nowhere. I was fishing and midding my own business when the message popped up. I went to check the map and I saw his red dot coming my way. There was a timer on screen ( i think it was 7 minutes) to try and survive. Anyway, I packed my shit and rode straight at him and was able to kill him first. The timer kept going and I saw him respawn a bit further so I rode the other way with about 5 minutes left. He was never able to catch me so I ended up ''winning'' that event and it gave me some cash and XP.

Anyone else got this? Is this a new option they added? I really wish R* would give more info about everything.
Oh yeah, not exactly that but a griefer killed me while I was hunting, I respawned and I saw him coming my way, I was like "ok, I'll let the jerk kill me again", he did. I respawned and he came after me again, I tried to tie him but I failed and he killed me once more. Next time I recieved a message telling me to kill him and get revenge but it was in a quest form, I went after him and killed him while he was standing (probably at the menu or something) and I got a new message but I didn't pay attention.

Looked like a new thing to me.
 
Dec 4, 2018
10
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but yesterday, some random guy put an assassination bounty on my head out of nowhere. I was fishing and minding my own business when the message popped up. I went to check the map and I saw his red dot coming my way. There was a timer on screen ( i think it was 7 minutes) to try to survive. Anyway, I packed my shit and rode straight at him and was able to kill him first. The timer kept going and I saw him respawn a bit further so I rode the other way with about 5 minutes left. He was never able to catch me so I ended up ''winning'' that event and it gave me some cash and XP.

Anyone else got this? Is this a new option they added? I really wish R* would give more info about everything.
I had a friend in my posse have an assassination put out on him. It was pretty tense waiting for anyone to come at us, but we had high ground and a strong position, so no takers.

I believe it comes from the Stranger that was cool with Micah, he had a messed up face and a chest tattoo. That Stranger picked your name out of the lobby and gave it to the guy you killed. It is completely random though, very cool that you hunted down your assassin instead.
 
Oct 30, 2017
417
I had a friend in my posse have an assassination put out on him. It was pretty tense waiting for anyone to come at us, but we had high ground and a strong position, so no takers.

I believe it comes from the Stranger that was cool with Micah, he had a messed up face and a chest tattoo. That Stranger picked your name out of the lobby and gave it to the guy you killed. It is completely random though, very cool that you hunted down your assassin instead.
Ok so I understand that it's from a Stranger mission basycally? If so, I'm cool with that and I'd like to know where to activate that specific mission.
 
Dec 4, 2018
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Ok so I understand that it's from a Stranger mission basycally? If so, I'm cool with that and I'd like to know where to activate that specific mission.
I think the guy's name is...Bear? Or something like that. He does dishonorable missions as does Shaky. I know you want assassinations but I believe it's a matter of chance which dishonorable mission they give you. If you go to your map and thumbstick over the Strangers you've met, it should say what kind of missions they offer. So look for "assassinations."
 
Oct 28, 2017
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No, it's more like people whose fun is trying to ruin other people's fun are horrible people. No one said people having fun are horrible people but nice try trying to twist that.
No twisting, like I said, the game is literally geared towards ruining other people's fun. It's rockstars intent, if it wasn't, they would have learned from GTA online's grief-fest and put more systems in place to prevent this, but instead they actively encourage it.

The people who are rubberbanding their controller and lessening the experience for others are worse than the people actually playing the game the way it was meant to be.
 
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New to this site, but happy to be here. After years of PC elitism, I shelled out for the RDR2 PS4 Pro bundle and have been very happy with the purchase.

To the topic at hand, my character is at about level 21, and I have some tips to help y'all along. I shelled out for the seven-person persistent posse (Selena y Los Bandidos Guapos) so I'll drop my PSN handle at the end of this post if anyone wants to be friends. Unfortunately, won't be online for the next week or so thanks to crunch for law school finals.

A big complaint I've heard about Red Dead Online is, aside from a burdensome economy, the needless cruelty of other players. As noted by others in this thread, this behavior, often called "griefing," is absolutely encouraged by the designers of this game. Other players in your session are constantly visible in your mini-map by vaguely threatening pink blips, which turn red once hostilities have commenced. These are just other players, they may be friendly, but you have no way of knowing that. So when a pink blip comes towards your character, it is natural to turn and fire blindly. You don't see a name, you see a gaming handle in pink. And on PSN, that name is usually either vaguely or explicitly murderous and/or narcotics adjacent.

Subvert the design by maybe having your lantern out when you ride by, instead of your gun. I've seen people use the whistle function to indicate friendliness. You could aim in another direction, then press up on the d-pad. This aims your gun at the sky and you can fire a few times to let 'em know you mean business. It is actually way cool when it works, which is more often than not.

When you start a Stranger mission, people will come over and try to screw you over, because the game has let them know that you are trying to deliver a wagon, the mail, whatever, and your goal is now their goal. They get XP for it, it's on their map, and they probably have you muted or don't have a mic themselves. So don't get too sore when that happens, and consider avoiding Stranger missions all-together as a solo endeavor, as they don't do much for you in terms of XP or money.

I've actually made a few friends on Red Dead Online, a new experience coming from PC, and one of these friends has word "Killah" in his handle and named his horse "My Horse." A maniac, in other words. I walked him through some basics and it became clear that he was one of those nightmare players I'd read about on forums. The thing is, he kept telling me about how the game kept giving him awards and XP for "griefing" behavior: killing other players unprovoked, etc... So, again, the game wants to bring out the worst in players.

The lesson I have for solo online folks: keep an eye on the mini-map and try to avoid other players until you have leveled up some/ have a good load-out. For example, only drop off stuff at the butcher when the area around him has quieted down.

Play the online story, it puts you in matchmaking, and this is a good time to talk to the people they set you up with. Odds are you'll find folks on mic replaying story missions, and they might be happy to posse up with you and play more of the story, since everyone benefits. But FYI, there isn't much of a story to the story, and if you see that most of the four folks you are playing with are voting to skip the cutscene...also vote to skip the cutscene. You won't be missing much, I've seen the missions a few times now starting friends off in RDO. It's kind of a nothing story.

Or if you are all voting on an outcome in a particular decision, ask if they've already seen one of the outcomes, and want to see how it turns out if you chose a different way.

Another note on posses, if you are "Posse Leader," the waypoint you set is visible with a blue dot and a blue path to the rest of your posse. It is considerate to keep up with where everyone is going and keeping that waypoint updated. Also there are various awards associated with being Posse Leader or Posse Follower for x# of hours, so ask if anyone else wants a turn for leader on their end.

If you are a PS4 player, Sony has a 30 day exclusive for some free items. You will want to stop at the Stable, Fence, and a General Store/Tailor. There, you can get a red-coat Arabian, high-roller revolver, and the Grizzly Outfit for free.

Re: the Arabian, you will need to sell your old horse or buy a second stable slot for $100. Then you'll have to equip a saddle on it, and go ahead and pick up a brush from Horse Provisions. Only $3.50. Every single person I've shown this to has had trouble, it really is terrible design. But this horse really flies across the map and makes the game much more bearable.

Bonding works the same as single player. When mounted, tap or hold L3 to pet your horse or calm it down in between urging it along. You can actually see your horse's stamina core recover when you are riding it hard and do this. Brush it, and I believe as in single-player, leading your horse is one of the best ways to get the bond up quickly.

While you might want to buy horse insurance in the future for the Arabian, it is cost-prohibitive at 5 (!) Gold bars. However, the insurance is not strictly necessary. When your horse becomes critically injured and you can't revive it, go to: left on d-pad, stables, and heal your horse. A two minute timer will commence. An extremely shitty nag will replace it in the meantime. But you don't need to ride the nag all the way to the stable though, instead: flee the nag, then whistle, and your Arabian will come to you. Horse revives are pretty expensive (10 bucks), but I like having a bunch for my posse...and I can't resist reviving even hostile player horses.

You'll need to eat way more than in single-player, and that goes for your horse as well. Stock up on classic oatcakes from your catalog (you pick up catalog orders from the post office), as they can feed both you and your horse and are good for keeping those cores up.

If you anticipate a hostile player and have pelts on your horse, hitch your horse to a random tree and the pelts won't despawn. Also if you kinda stand your horse over a carcass it skips the skinning animation (by the way, if you down a three star, you can get money for the perfect skin AND a perfect carcass).

Also, buy the Varmint Rifle. It is necessary to get perfect exotic bird feathers/carcasses, and also apparently very overpowered in pvp if you have your "flick headshot" technique down.

Re: the Grizzly Outfit. You can buy it from your catalog (hold left on d-pad), but I would not advise it. It might save you some frustration in the future as there is a bug where the individual pieces of the Grizzly Outfit don't show up in your wardrobe. You would have to equip the outfit and then change the bits so just buy it from the store.

Fishing is probably the most-fun way to make money, along with hunting. It might be worth spending a gold bar on one of the lures, so you can get reliable catches of the more valuable fish. Either river or lake lure works exactly the same. Be careful though as you can still lose the line ..and the lure with it, if you reel a struggling and large fish.

Don't buy bait (worms and crickets) from the catalog as there is a bug currently where you can't use them from the bait wheel if you buy thenmax amount from the catalog.

Also reset those gold buckle awards, you keep the buckle and get a couple easy nuggets.

Remember to keep up with your active and passive cards as you level up. They cost 50 bucks or so.

Happy trails!

PSN: svvagerific

Thanks for this post, I'm hoping to hop online tonight for the first time and these are some useful tips.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but yesterday, some random guy put an assassination bounty on my head out of nowhere. I was fishing and minding my own business when the message popped up. I went to check the map and I saw his red dot coming my way. There was a timer on screen ( i think it was 7 minutes) to try to survive. Anyway, I packed my shit and rode straight at him and was able to kill him first. The timer kept going and I saw him respawn a bit further so I rode the other way with about 5 minutes left. He was never able to catch me so I ended up ''winning'' that event and it gave me some cash and XP.

Anyone else got this? Is this a new option they added? I really wish R* would give more info about everything.
I think it's a stranger mission doing this.
 
Apr 19, 2018
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For the love of GOD, they need to fix the BS where you stop fishing if someone is shooting near by. I mean seriously WTF is that shit? I've lost so many good fish because some fuck started shooting by me, and then the game cancels the reel-in.
 
Dec 4, 2018
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Thanks for this post, I'm hoping to hop online tonight for the first time and these are some useful tips.
No problem! It's really a good amount of fun and I can't wait to hop on again.

I'm so full of tips...but if you don't want an ugly hillbilly character: pick a base face that looks close to what you want. Set all of the face features to neutral, complexions to none, then poke around a bit in the menus until you get to a character you can live with. There is some kind of bug where your character will look older than the one you create at this screen...so add a couple of years in your brain and go from there. I heard about this before I started so I went as young as possible (18) and my guy for sure looks like he is in his 30's.

Boosting your health cores is one the toughest experience areas, so since you're just starting out, put the initial two points they offer you into health.

don't buy snacks and canned food for eating yourself, as meat you have hunted and cooked is free and is more efficient at core recovery. You can also apply certain herbs to your meat in the cooking process by pressing left or right on your d-pad in the cooking menu, and these boost stamina, health, or dead-eye, depending on the herb. For no reason at all, cooked meat won't show up in your radial menu, so you'll have to hold right on d-pad to open up your satchel and eat your meat that way.

You can save some ammo and get a perfect pelt from a large variety of game by lassoing the animal, holding them, then it will dismount you from your horse, and you can press the "kill" button when prompted.

I should have noted that the fishing rod unlocks at a later level, it's either 10 or 14. Don't recall the price though.

If you don't want to spend a gold bar on one of the fancy lures, look up where the good fish spawn points are online. There, you'll be able to use the unlimited amount of free bread and cheese that seem to come with your rod to get the expensive fish, just at a less common rate. You can hold ten sock-eye salmon, and those sell for $42.50 all together!

When fishing and you have something on the line, use your left thumbstick to pull down your rod towards you. This brings them in faster.

Also, fishing is one if the best ways to get health experience. So even if you're getting small-fry, keep them, since you can sell them anyway and you get some points of health experience out of it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You're right btw, no idea why things from GTAO are absent in this?
*cough*BEEEEETA*cough*

;)

For the love of GOD, they need to fix the BS where you stop fishing if someone is shooting near by. I mean seriously WTF is that shit? I've lost so many good fish because some fuck started shooting by me, and then the game cancels the reel-in.
They should make you invisible/invincible when fishing.