Xbox One X's shining moment.
PS4 Pro version unfortunately not as clear as many other checkerboarded games on the platform.
PS4 Pro version unfortunately not as clear as many other checkerboarded games on the platform.
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Red Dead Redemption 2 DF Analysis (Read OP)
- Thread starter BladeX
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* XB One 864p
Damm, I'm sorry for those who are playing this on 4K TVs with the Slim upscale... Got a couple of friends that play this way because they don't wanna upgrade to an X so close to the next gen.
I'll be playing on the PS4 Pro.
Damm, I'm sorry for those who are playing this on 4K TVs with the Slim upscale... Got a couple of friends that play this way because they don't wanna upgrade to an X so close to the next gen.
I'll be playing on the PS4 Pro.
Considering the splendid graphics, I am totally surprised that it's indeed native 4K on the X!
I'm getting the console in about a month (enough time to reduce my PS4 Pro backlog to zero :p) and so far this game and Forza Horizon 4 make me feel as excited as I was when I saw PS3 / HD(MI) games for the first time at home, when I felt like "This is it, doesn't get any better".
I'll probably wait until I get shorter games like DMC V out of the way before I dedicate 2 or 3 weeks to this one game. It looks huge and rushing through it would be a waste.
Thanks DF for the analysis!
I'm getting the console in about a month (enough time to reduce my PS4 Pro backlog to zero :p) and so far this game and Forza Horizon 4 make me feel as excited as I was when I saw PS3 / HD(MI) games for the first time at home, when I felt like "This is it, doesn't get any better".
I'll probably wait until I get shorter games like DMC V out of the way before I dedicate 2 or 3 weeks to this one game. It looks huge and rushing through it would be a waste.
Thanks DF for the analysis!
A mix bag imo. 1920x1080 its a fair resolution for base ps4, but sub 20 fps its outch.
Hmm I think I've been spoiled buying mostly first party exclusives lately, but the Pro version looks like a blurry mess from this screenshots. I'm tempted to wait for a possible patch. I'll see for myself tomorrow.
Well this ruined my hype. I thought i wouldn't have to think about this shit again as with the first game.
How does it look fucking worse on pro than base? How did they not fix this before release? I understand X having a higher resolution, but this difference is fucking embarrassing. Man...
How does it look fucking worse on pro than base? How did they not fix this before release? I understand X having a higher resolution, but this difference is fucking embarrassing. Man...
XBX has more power, but many suspect the Pro is bandwidth starved. In many games X is pulling ahead of Pro with much more than theoretical advantage (40%), the difference is usually 80% or more.
What ? The pro is not worse than base PS4. What are you talking about ?
Or the trailer was actually on the X and they pretended I was on a pro...
I am replying because it is impossible to get performance increases by changing your TV
I completely forgot about that. I remember reading... scoffing... and thinking "no chance"... Amazing achievement.
Sorry, my bad.
On that I agree with you, Rockstar could have tried to have parity in fps, regardless of what kind of sacrifices needed to be made in order to achieve that.
On some comparisons, the Pro version looks actually worse than the PS4 version:
In other comparison, it looks better. Astonishingly close to X when it comes to resolution. Fur collar is still less detailed and the coat texture has issues.
In most shots, it feels like there is simply no reconstruction technique going on. Like it's stuck at a very low resolution. Anamorphic 1920x2160 should still look better than 1920x1080 so I'm not sure what's going on. Bug perhaps?
In other comparison, it looks better. Astonishingly close to X when it comes to resolution. Fur collar is still less detailed and the coat texture has issues.
In most shots, it feels like there is simply no reconstruction technique going on. Like it's stuck at a very low resolution. Anamorphic 1920x2160 should still look better than 1920x1080 so I'm not sure what's going on. Bug perhaps?
Yeah that is a real bummer. May as well disable HDR on the console then for this game since using HDR makes a game dimmer than usual too. No reason to do that.
PS4 pro looks disgusting in comparison. Worse performance too, and you know full well the console noise will be at a all time high when playing the game.
Still, XBox One X is too expansive for me. Rather wait for a good pc port.
Still, XBox One X is too expansive for me. Rather wait for a good pc port.
Damn X putting in work Lashley good choice on getting it.
I really want the next gen ports to come before the PC version, so the PC version ends up being much better again like for GTA5.
Not true at all. The last TR is not absolutely that bad on the Pro and it's 1800cbr vs 2016p. What I see there is awful from my perspective. Even The Witcher 3 is not that bad at all or Rise of TR which is again 2160cbr vs native. I mean if we are trying to pass that's the normality seen such awful reconstruction on the Pro, I can't disagree more.
Dark1x, beautiful analysis as always. The only thing really bothering me is the mention of "on consoles" at every opportunity to say that this is one of the most well realized, immersive and beautiful games ever. It's like we have this mythical game on PC where everything is beautiful and rendered to perfection, with no LODs, ultra high textures, etc, etc. As a whole, I fail to think of a game on PC with the graphical scope of RDR2. And that's coming from a hardcore PC gamer, but mainly - from a gamer in general.
I just think saying "on consoles" diminishes the achievement here.
I just think saying "on consoles" diminishes the achievement here.
Just finished the first video and it's the best visual showcase for this game I've seen, even over the one or two official trailers I've watched. Absolutely nuts how cohesive a world they've built. I think I'd waste a ton of time on just looking at the details in each area let alone actually doing the campaign missions.
I saw some climbing in the video, I hope that means you can clamber most of the reachable ledges in the environments!
I saw some climbing in the video, I hope that means you can clamber most of the reachable ledges in the environments!
Nah, that's not the intention at all. It's meant to highlight how impressive it is. I think it looks better than any comparable PC game as well but pulling that off on a console is insane.
For the comparison video, most of the comparison footage was made yesterday so whatever was the latest build as of that date.
Doubt they would do that. I just think people don't zoom x20 while watching trailers.
Thanks for your insight. I'm far from knowledgable in this field, but is this something like this a patch can fix down the line?
Edit: the reconstruction tech side of things
It looks so much better on the X! Can't believe they hit native 4k and an almost rock solid 30fps with those level of visuals.
The X is such great value for money considering what it manages to achieve!
The X is such great value for money considering what it manages to achieve!
Just watched and while obviously the X looks best even the S version looks pretty damn great for open world. I'm ready to play now please.
Yeah, it's my theory as well pros biggest problem is bandwith, it doesn't help that the gpu 1.8TF weaker and the cpu clocks are lower (which would explain worse performance), I would say these results were expected.
There would be a performance increase if the game rendered in 1080p instead of 1920x2160, if the game had a performance / eye candy options on the Pro (as several have), which is why i'm asking.
Was it mentioned on the video anywhere or no?
Combination of power difference being fairly significant combined with a weird reconstruction method being used for the Pro version.
Other games that use reconstruction don't look that blurry. BLOPS 4 runs at the same res as RDR2 but reportedly looks cleaner than it.
Or they just had different priorities and/or goals for that version of the game? If they achieved their goals then it isn't botched.
Bummer about the pro, but that's all I can play it on now so it is what it is. I'll still enjoy it.
Wish PC release was here, but I'll def double dip when that hits in the next generation
Wish PC release was here, but I'll def double dip when that hits in the next generation
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LOL at some PS4 folks "feeling sorry" for the base Xbox One owners, just take the L on this one because it is very clearly a big difference. This is the GOTY hands down, and maybe the game of this entire generation. And it deserves to be played on the most powerful console out there, so I am glad that I get to play it on my Xbox One X tonight on a 4K TV in its true glory!
At this point, I hope for the Pro R will release a fix update. It reminds me a lot to the AC Syndicate first pro patch such issues.On some comparisons, the Pro version looks actually worse than the PS4 version:
In other comparison, it looks better. Astonishingly close to X when it comes to resolution. Fur collar is still less detailed and the coat texture has issues.
In most shots, it feels like there is simply no reconstruction technique going on. Like it's stuck at a very low resolution. Anamorphic 1920x2160 should still look better than 1920x1080 so I'm not sure what's going on. Bug perhaps?
Weird that people seem to bad mad at R* for 'fucking up' the Pro version while that's clearly on Sony for making that thing such a half assed upgrade.