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Toriko

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Yeah, the screenshots magnify the difference due to their static nature - it's much less troublesome in person at a normal view distance. X definitely DOES look a lot sharper, though, no doubt. You'll be fine if you haven't played it, though.


Yes. Foliage suffers greatly from the reconstruction technique while solid objects hold up much better.

Dark, Do you think it is better to play the PS4 pro version downsampled to 1080p on a 4k tv because of the checkerboard rendering issues or is 4k still the way to go on the PS4 pro despite the issues?
 

Septic

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My mate is harassing me to get this on the Pro for multiplayer bants. Dammit- we need Crossplay to be the default standard and FAST
 

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Sort of. I piped it into a 1080p capture card and viewed it 1:1. Looks nice there and the CBR issues are less pronounced.
So I take it the game natively downsamples? I wonder if there is a difference between the game's version and the forced system version. Other games have noted to actually look better when the system wide downsampling is turned on versus the game's downsampling.
 

Lothars

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Classic "lazy devs" in disguise here eh

Pretty poor timing for this argument too.

This is a demanding game, and according to DF, it still looks great on Pro, just considerably better on X. It is, afterall, a much more powerful machine.
That's not a lazy dev post, it highlights a clear thing because it sounds like the same thing that affects the pro affects the s. It doesn't affect the x because of the power difference and they were able to hit native 4k.
 

SnatcherHunter

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Crazy how many here said the X wouldn't be Native 4K. LOL

This game is going to sell the X this holiday..I have 0 doubt.
 

cowbanana

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I don't give a shit about 4k, but hopefully that garbage image on the Pro will look a lot better downsampled to 1080p which I'll be playing at. Very odd choice of resolution and reconstruction on the Pro, I wonder why they chose that over something more "standard".
 

JackEtc

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Now I'm split between XB1X and PS4 Pro....on the off chance I'll enjoy the online all my friends are on the pro, and I have a $10 credit there from Sony; idk if a slightly higher image quality on my 1080p screen is worth it
 

Tommyguns

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I want to buy an X and get the 100 dollar off deal. Wonder if gamestop would allow me to purchase the digital copy of the game...
 

ODDI

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Some of these hyperbolic responses here are unreal.

Thank God I don't have the time to count pixels tho I do appreciate the analysis DF did.
 

nib95

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Classic "lazy devs" in disguise here eh

Pretty poor timing for this argument too.

This is a demanding game, and according to DF, it still looks great on Pro, just considerably better on X. It is, afterall, a much more powerful machine.

It's not lazy devs argument in disguise, rather, it's merely a statement of truth, that there are better reconstruction implementations out there, and also the implication that the devs potentially messed up.

Fact is, at present this is a not a particularly well implemented checkerboard system, as Dark1x has himself alluded to. The PS4 Pro should obviously be better looking than the PS4 version by a good margin in all aspects (it is after all more than twice the performance and power) but the differences are smaller in certain areas than they should be due to poor reconstruction results.
 

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Pro is not absolutely a rushed hardware, come on now. It's a ps4 upgrade thinking for the 4k TV. MS needs to recover their image and they released an hardware to replace completely the base xbone. Look the IQ, is a mess in this console. They almost pretend it not exist. Sony couldn't risked to screw their userbase releasing a console which replaced the base sku otherwise to MS.

How is Microsoft screwing their userbase with the X ?

Sub 1080p resolutions existed since the beginning of the generation and well before the X even existed. This game is no different. The X simply there for enthusiasts, not the casual buyers.

Also you often speak about how performance (fps) is more important than resolution, yet the base PS4 isn't even better than OG XB1 in that department. So in your same logic, Sony is screwing over their userbase with the Pro who offers better performance (which is more important than IQ/resolution according to you).

In the end, neither MS or Sony screwed their customers with midgen refresh, they just offered something more for their core userbase.
 
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And just out of curiosity... did you guys test engaging in combat in Snt Denis? If the Pro drops to 28-29 while simply traversing I wonder what happens if you start shooting things....
 

Golding

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Oooooh.. pro looks bad in those comparison shots.. jesus.
Xbox one x owners are the true winners here for sure.
 

Chris McQueen

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I'll be playing this on my PS4 Pro. Whatever your preferred console of choice may be, fucking enjoy the game.

For everything else that's about to go down...
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Voxels

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Well doesn't the Dev kits takes the base versions and "ports" it over to the Midrefresh consoles? It seems MS had much more to work with than on Sony's side.
 

Pharaoh

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Shame about the HDR. IMO a good HDR implementation does more for the game than 90% of the bells and whistles people fight over on this kinds of threads.
 

Spades

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Nice. Xbox One X version sounding very awesome. This would have been such a bigger deal at the beginning of the gen.
 

g-m1n1

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Other devs share code with R*? Did Ubi Montreal get a credit somewhere? CDPR send a tech team to rockstar studios? Other devs is just a bad argument.
Come on, isn't it possible to have a normal discussion on a forum?

I'm not looking for arguments, but looking at facts and recent examples.
If the other devs get it right, why shouldn't R*? They are the probably the biggest studio in the world.

They messed up something with their reconstruction technique.
of course CBR < native resolution, but still, it could be better implemented. Maybe it will get 'fixed' in a future patch.

However gamers around the world will still enjoy playing the game. Is it on a Pro or a standard PS4 / One S.