Red Dead Redemption 2 |OT2| For A Few Hours More
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Hey all! I played at launch for a few hours but got busy and haven’t played since. But i plan to jump back in soon finally.
One thing that I was curious about was choice and consequence. At the start of the game your left alone in the barn with that guy and your allowed to do whatever, kill him, spare him.
In most games I play the good guy. But I was really worried that if I spared him, maybe he’d come back and hurt or kill someone in the group.
I was also worried that if I killed him maybe someone will join the group down the line and that guy was their best friend or something lol
Without spoilers please, Do choices matter much in this game? Is it better to play the good guy or the bad guy? Or is it all case by case?
One thing that I was curious about was choice and consequence. At the start of the game your left alone in the barn with that guy and your allowed to do whatever, kill him, spare him.
In most games I play the good guy. But I was really worried that if I spared him, maybe he’d come back and hurt or kill someone in the group.
I was also worried that if I killed him maybe someone will join the group down the line and that guy was their best friend or something lol
Without spoilers please, Do choices matter much in this game? Is it better to play the good guy or the bad guy? Or is it all case by case?
The game gently nudges you to be an honorable man. I would recommend this playstyle especially for first playthrough. That said, you are still an outlaw. Defending your friends and, essentially your "real" family, I would argue is honorable (re. the O'Driscoll in the barn) and Arthur is still a killer.
That's as spoiler free as I can get; basically some choices matter, but you should get a pretty strong idea which ones they are. Don't expect Witcher 3 levels of choice-based gameplay and recurring faces.
Hope that helped a bit. Enjoy the amazing game.
That's as spoiler free as I can get; basically some choices matter, but you should get a pretty strong idea which ones they are. Don't expect Witcher 3 levels of choice-based gameplay and recurring faces.
Hope that helped a bit. Enjoy the amazing game.
You could always do it post-epilogue as well. Your honor is not as important in the epilogue, and, frankly, it is absurdly easy to earn honor back; if you just hold L2+Square constantly to greet every person you meet, you'll basically always be maxed on honor. I don't know how big a hit a train robbery actually does to your honor, but it can't be that bad.
They’ll be available for the duration of the current chapter at the very least.
Think of the general setup like this -
Chapters 1-3: early game. Explore, MOST stranger missions will carry over through chapter 3, enjoy the game world through these chapters.
Chapter 4: thing are about to get real. Wrap things up during this chapter.
Chapter 5: what the fuck just happened?
Chapter 6: end game, do everything optional you can, wrap up loose ends, bountiful opportunities for gaining or losing honor. This is it folks.
Beyond: try to enjoy. Things heat up quickly. Do not skip.
Think of the general setup like this -
Chapters 1-3: early game. Explore, MOST stranger missions will carry over through chapter 3, enjoy the game world through these chapters.
Chapter 4: thing are about to get real. Wrap things up during this chapter.
Chapter 5: what the fuck just happened?
Chapter 6: end game, do everything optional you can, wrap up loose ends, bountiful opportunities for gaining or losing honor. This is it folks.
Beyond: try to enjoy. Things heat up quickly. Do not skip.
Sony's sending out an email with a link to their site that gives you a bunch of stats about what you played in 2018.
Posting in here since if you played a shit ton of RDR 2 like I did you can finally see an hours counter lol. No way to see playtime in RDR as far as I know.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/campaigns/2018/wrap-up/
RDR 2 was my most played game last year at 144 hours. Not bad considering I've never even booted into the online mode.
Posting in here since if you played a shit ton of RDR 2 like I did you can finally see an hours counter lol. No way to see playtime in RDR as far as I know.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/campaigns/2018/wrap-up/
RDR 2 was my most played game last year at 144 hours. Not bad considering I've never even booted into the online mode.
I did the stranger missions for the Professor over the past few days. That shit gets really dark. Arthur taunting the captive about what lightning can do to a field of cattle is some horrifying shit. Like, damn, Arthur, ease up a bit would ya? I lightened the mood by doing the Chatenay missions around the same time and the scene in the gallery where Arthur is just laughing as chaos descends around him had me howling.
Yeah, it doesn’t sound great. Gave GTA Online a shot back in like 2014 but I couldn’t get into that either.
R* is my favourite developer, but their online just ain’t my thing.
Whatever, so long as they don’t ditch single-player. And RDR 2 is the best single-player Rockstar’s ever done imo, so I’m cool.
R* is my favourite developer, but their online just ain’t my thing.
Whatever, so long as they don’t ditch single-player. And RDR 2 is the best single-player Rockstar’s ever done imo, so I’m cool.
I agree. It was a tour-de-force of a game. But given how lucrative the online side of things has been for them I was amazed we even got a single player campaign. If you’re paid to make that company money, why wouldn’t you just switch to an online only product?
I hate that idea with passion but understand the business side of it.
I hate that idea with passion but understand the business side of it.
They make a shit ton of money from the singleplayer as well, zero chance they would consider making an online only GTA/RDR game. In a way they already sacrifice the campaign by not really updating it with patches or releasing SP DLC. Their post game support for the SP has been dreadful compared to other games like TW3 and the last few AC games which have had countless QoL features and fixes added from player feedback. RDR 2 could be a lot better already with one decent QoL patch but I don't see it happening anymore.
I'm now 8/8 on health, stamina, and dead eye, but "Reach maximum Health, Stamina, and Dead Eye" is still not checked off in the total completion menu. Do the upgrades from challenges count for that, or did my game glitch?
Edit: Just googled it and apparently challenges count. All 3 need to be 10/10.
Edit: Just googled it and apparently challenges count. All 3 need to be 10/10.
Yeah, you wonder if R* will move to an always-online experience with their games at some point.
Though one thing that could keep R* single-player alive is that when Leslie Benzies first brought his lawsuit forward against the Houser bros, his side said that the Housers were very much into the single-player and that Benzies was the main champion behind GTA Online. Obviously that's just their side of the story so who knows how true that is exactly, but with Dan Houser being one of the main writers behind all their single-player and Benzies listed as Director and Producer of GTA Online, I can see it.
So maybe with Benzies gone there's less of a pull to get rid of single-player? Hopefully.
I really, really want Sadie DLC. Won't spoil it here, but there's a chunk of time for her that would work perfectly imo
Though one thing that could keep R* single-player alive is that when Leslie Benzies first brought his lawsuit forward against the Houser bros, his side said that the Housers were very much into the single-player and that Benzies was the main champion behind GTA Online. Obviously that's just their side of the story so who knows how true that is exactly, but with Dan Houser being one of the main writers behind all their single-player and Benzies listed as Director and Producer of GTA Online, I can see it.
So maybe with Benzies gone there's less of a pull to get rid of single-player? Hopefully.
I really, really want Sadie DLC. Won't spoil it here, but there's a chunk of time for her that would work perfectly imo
I have a question that involves major spoilers for both games in the series:
Why is the mission with the Dutch and Colm meeting, where Arthur gets kidnapped by them, called "Blessed are the Peacemakers"? I know it's a quote, I think Biblical, but considering its what is engraved on John's grave, I thought they would've kept this for a bigger mission, or at least one involving John.
I think it's sarcastically referencing the fact that neither one of them actually wants peace and the parley is a complete sham. I'm not sure if there's any relevance to John beyond the implication that the cycle of revenge never stops and will eventually claim everyone, which is what eventually happens to John as well.
I finished the main story and am currently in the middle of Epilogue 2. Going to try to finish it tonight.
I chose to go with John at the end and Arthur died on the mountain after a fistfight with Micah. I was already expecting that Arthur would die, since this is a prequel, especially once he got the TB diagnosis. There were also hints about John being playable at some point, like only being able to customize his and Arthur's lodging, so I kind of expected that. It makes sense to play as him since the epilogue seems to really be leading into the beginning of RDR1. I really hope I get to kill Micah with John, and I want Sadie and Charles to survive, but I'm expecting at least one but probably both of them to die.
Ok I had time to do a few more missions. I'm now at the part where
I'll finish the rest tonight.
John is reunited with Abigail and Jack at the ranch, and I also did the mission where you go fishing with Jack and Rufus gets bitten by a snake. I'm pretty sure I only have a few missions left, so I'm expecting some major shit to go down soon (like, imminently).
I have a few general questions after beating the game.
Not even Sadie or Charles? Damn.
-What happens to uncle in RDR1? I don’t remember much.
-I honestly can’t remember why John has to go after Dutch’s gang, nor do I remember Dutch much in it. Any one have a good answer?
-How much of the RDR1 territory is available to explore in this game? I got chills when I did that mission with Sadie and saw New Austin and that church.
-I honestly can’t remember why John has to go after Dutch’s gang, nor do I remember Dutch much in it. Any one have a good answer?
-How much of the RDR1 territory is available to explore in this game? I got chills when I did that mission with Sadie and saw New Austin and that church.
Uncle dies during the last mission, when the FBI storm the ranch at Beecher's Hope. Him and John see them coming from over the hill, they get Jack and Abigail to go the house. After a firefight, they get back to the house, Jack comes out to help, and Uncle gets shot on the front porch.
Edgar Ross takes Abigail and Jack, and uses that as leverage to get John to hunt and kill the last remaining members of his gang, so Bill, Javier and Dutch.
Dutch shows up towards the end, after Mexico/when you get back to Blackwater. He's only in a few missions, and he's unhinged. He takes and kills a hostage in Blackwater, and he is up in a camp north of Tall Trees, where he has a gang of Indians helping him. John goes after him, and chases him to a cliff, where Dutch talks about how the West is changing, before he walks off the edge. At the bottom, Ross uses John's gun to shoot him, saying it'll look better on the records the way, and tells him his family is back at the ranch.
Location wise, the entirety of America from RDR is in RDR2, it's just Mexico that isn't available. There are some differences though, like I don't think the camp Dutch has in Tall Trees is there for example, and Armadillo is different for example.
Edgar Ross takes Abigail and Jack, and uses that as leverage to get John to hunt and kill the last remaining members of his gang, so Bill, Javier and Dutch.
Dutch shows up towards the end, after Mexico/when you get back to Blackwater. He's only in a few missions, and he's unhinged. He takes and kills a hostage in Blackwater, and he is up in a camp north of Tall Trees, where he has a gang of Indians helping him. John goes after him, and chases him to a cliff, where Dutch talks about how the West is changing, before he walks off the edge. At the bottom, Ross uses John's gun to shoot him, saying it'll look better on the records the way, and tells him his family is back at the ranch.
Location wise, the entirety of America from RDR is in RDR2, it's just Mexico that isn't available. There are some differences though, like I don't think the camp Dutch has in Tall Trees is there for example, and Armadillo is different for example.
Just a minor expansion on some locations:
Quite a few of the towns from RDR 1 that are available to visit in RDR 2 have significant changes. Armadillo is basically the equivalent of Valentine in RDR 1, but a veritable ghost town in RDR 2 thanks to the plague. Tumbleweed is a complete ghost town in RDR 1, but a fully functioning town in RDR 2. Rathskeller Fork was a save spot in RDR 1; it is private property in RDR 2. Thieve's Landing was a full-fledged town in RDR 1, but it's basically just a gang fortress in RDR 2. Blackwater and MacFarlane Ranch don't have all the buildings from RDR 1, suggesting that some of them are still being built or are yet to begin construction. Cochinay doesn't exist in RDR 2. I wanted to say that Manzanita Post was different, but apparently they're actually basically the same with the exception of there's no purchasable property there in RDR 2 (in RDR 1, you could get a cabin near the general store). I haven't actually been over to Plainview, so I don't know if that camp exists in RDR 2 or not.
I finished Epilogue 2 last night.
I thought the ending was great. It connected perfectly to RDR1. I thought it was cool that it showed where the characters who left the gang near the end of chapter 6 ended up during the credits. Also went 3/3 on what I said I wanted in the other post. Sadie and Charles both (presumably) survived and John got to kill Micah (with Dutch's help). I also like how you just get $20K at the end so you don't have to worry about money anymore. I just bought the last 2 satchels I needed (Kit and LotE), much less time consuming than going hunting. I still have a shitload of stuff to do with all of the challenges/collectibles. I'm going to try to go for 100%, I think right now I'm a little over 85% done.
I haven’t done all of them but
I walked into Rhodes on the way back to Beecher’s Hope and was like “Oh, this is where Pearson was supposed to have opened his grocery store. But they wouldnt have included that level of detail, would they?” They did haha and all the other ones I’ve tried have worked too.
I guess Karen drank herself to death though. Or she was a rat. No word about her sadly.
Strauss gets wrapped up with a conversation with Charles in St-Denis at least.
I guess Karen drank herself to death though. Or she was a rat. No word about her sadly.
Strauss gets wrapped up with a conversation with Charles in St-Denis at least.