Red Dead Redemption II PC performance thread

dEvAnGeL

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Oct 27, 2017
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Should I stick with 4k 50fps avg, or go down 1 tick to 2560 x1600 easily hitting 60fps avg on a 4k 60hz monitor?
Ultra Everything. Everything on or set to its highest settings except:
-FXAA/MSAA: off
-Water physics Quality: 4/5
-Resolution scale: (at 4k 4/5 [.800] at 1600 9/10[.900])
-Reflection MSAA: off

only real settings change between the two resolutions is the Resolution scaling,
I have mine at 4/6 of 4k, gives you 1800p and looks beautiful.
 
Dec 15, 2017
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The texture quality setting seems pretty much broken considering it goes to potato immediately while many options have little performance and visual impact.
Yeah I'm not buying that this game is that well optimized or scalable. I have a 2gb card and I have recently played Ac oddysey and it looks great on a low VRAM budget. This is the first game where a 4gb vram card it's truly required to have a decent experience. GTX 770 minimum... Yeah right. I'd say the true minimum is a GTX 970 in order to get a PS4 experience. That's crazy.
 

Ogs

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Oct 27, 2017
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So, using the settings from the video (awesome vid btw) but with 16x AF and TAA Sharpening on Max -

9700K
16GB DDR4
GeForce 1080

1080p -



4K (Well, 2x rendering res in the options) -

 

dEvAnGeL

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Oct 27, 2017
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For what is worth this game looks and runs better on my PC than AC: Oddysey does. Both have issues but far from unplayable, I wish i could return it, i still believe it could be better optimized.
 

Lashley

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Oct 25, 2017
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For what is worth this game looks and runs better on my PC than AC: Oddysey does. Both have issues but far from unplayable, I wish i could return it, i still believe it could be better optimized.
This is where I'm at too. I'm lucky in that it launches and runs reasonably well when outside towns.
 

Ferdie

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Jul 16, 2018
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Xbox One X settings (16x AF) , 1080p, Vulkan.

i5-3570k @ 4.3 GHz
16GB RAM
RX 470



Decent results for such an old hardware, in my opinion. Vulkan and DX12 are doing wonders to older AMD cards.
 
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RoboitoAM

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Oct 25, 2017
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Xbox One X settings, 1080p, Vulkan.

i5-3570k @ 4.3 GHz
16GB RAM
RX 470



Decent results for such an old hardware, in my opinion. Vulkan and DX12 are doing wonders to older AMD cards.
Have you tried playing the game yet? I have the same processor and same clock speed and it will stutter without an external CPU limiter in my experience.
 

ABK281

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Apr 5, 2018
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So I don't plan on getting this until Steam release but how's it fairing on 4c/8t CPU's? Is a 6700k enough to not be the bottleneck with a 60fps target?
 

Ferdie

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Jul 16, 2018
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Have you tried playing the game yet? I have the same processor and same clock speed and it will stutter without an external CPU limiter in my experience.
I'm only getting those big multi-second freezes few times per hour, after the latest update. No stutter when playing.

Need to play a bit more but it's pretty smooth right now.
 

Nekrono

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May 17, 2018
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Fantastic work with your video Dictator, such a comprehensive and in-depth look at each setting. Definitely optimized and scalable considering most Xbox One X settings are at low.
 

PorcoLighto

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Oct 25, 2017
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4 day and i’m still getting launcher exited unexpectedly. So I guess I’m out of luck gigabyte doesn’t release a bios with Agesa 1.0.0.4 for my x370 mobo???
Day four: A Rockstar Launcher update has moved me from "Rockstar Launcher exited unexpectedly" to "Red Dead Redemption 2 exited unexpectedly". I guess that's some progress but I still haven't properly launched the game a single time.
Not sure if you guys have fixed yours, but I have fixed mine. Try disabling all audio enhancements. https://i.imgur.com/xlfeeKA.png
JaseC I believe this fix has not been mentioned anywhere, but this is the only that fixed it for me, worth adding this to the OP if somebody can confirm it works for them too.
 

dex3108

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Oct 26, 2017
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Red Dead Online 1080p and x4 MSAA




GTA Online 1080p and x4 MSAA



I don't know what they did for RDR2 but in GTA V AA is better looking and less demanding.
 

Tovarisc

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Oct 25, 2017
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FIN
Shouldn't have touched settings. Tweaked a bit based on DF video and now game at random hard crashes to desktop.

Great.
 

h00jraq

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Mar 21, 2019
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So, using the settings from the video (awesome vid btw) but with 16x AF and TAA Sharpening on Max -

9700K
16GB DDR4
GeForce 1080

1080p -



4K (Well, 2x rendering res in the options) -

Have you tried with 1440p? I'm curious how it looks in 1440p as 1080p is a bit blurry compared to XOX version of the game. Maybe sharpening fix that but I'm not sure. I would like to try but I think I will wait another month or two till they fix stupid crashes/stutters and bugs...
 

rBose

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Oct 28, 2017
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This is their pathetic response to my game crashing ONLY while vulkan
ps: of course it still crashes

 

h00jraq

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Mar 21, 2019
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I'm using the previous driver to the RDR2 driver, only 1 behind.
Is there any chance for some performance testing? How big is the FPS gain with older version?

BTW
Can anyone tell me how big is the difference between XOX 4k and PC 1440p with some sharpenning applied?
I have XOX and can run the game but I'm just afraid to test RDR 2 on PC now because I'm afraid of crashes and other stupid bugs... I have GTX 1080 and I know I can't achieve 50+ fps in 4k even with XOX settings but I think 1440p can be achieved with 50+fps so with FreeSync I can smooth experience.
Any experience runing game on 1080ti in 1440p?
 

dEvAnGeL

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is there any chance for some performance testing? How big is the FPS gain with older version?
No testing lol, I'm using vsync and places where i couldn't get a locked 60, i was going down to 55 i am now, i was even able to bring the water physics level from 2 to 3 without any lost in performance.
 

TaySan

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Dec 10, 2018
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Game was working fine all day.
I decided to stop and eat breakfast for a minute and now I come back and it's crashing on me everytime I start the story mode.

Maybe this port really isn't so great after all....
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I've been so close to buying this a few times but seeing people talk about crashing and various performance issues, I think I'll just wait for a sale.
 

TaySan

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Dec 10, 2018
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Changed the API from Vulkan to DX12 and DX12 works. Also, DX12 seems to run better for me too.
 

TaySan

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Dec 10, 2018
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Welp NVM DX12 crashes on me too..... Looks like I'm just going to wait until this shit is patched out.
 

Isee

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can anyone tell me how big is the difference between XOX 4k and PC 1440p with some sharpenning applied?
It's hard to do screenshot with nvidia sharpening enabled. The scene has it, but the screenshot itself is lacking it. At least I see a huge difference between screenshots I do and the scene on my screen with sharpening.

What I can do for you though is taking a screenshot and applying a bit of sharpening in Photoshop to it.BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME and looks better! But it is relatively close to how 1440p+40% sharpening looks on my screen. At least when things aren't in motion.

Those are Ultra settings:

All you need to do now is start your Xbox and compare it. But spoilers: Native 4k > 1440p + sharpening.
 

Emko

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Oct 3, 2018
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So, using the settings from the video (awesome vid btw) but with 16x AF and TAA Sharpening on Max -

9700K
16GB DDR4
GeForce 1080

1080p -



4K (Well, 2x rendering res in the options) -

Hmm Vulkan seems to be a lot better on my system. Not sure if my OC is doing that much but here are my results:
  • i5 8600K @ 4.65 GHz
  • 16 GB DDR4 @ 2965 MHz
  • GTX 1080 @ 2076/6000 MHz
VULKAN
4K / 1080p


DX12
4K / 1080p

Here's the config:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, DX12
1920 x 1080, 60000hz, Windowed: undefined, Vsync: No, Triple: Off

Textures: Ultra
Anisotropic: 16x
Lighting: Medium
Global Illumination: Medium
Shadows: High
Far Shadows: Low
SSAO: Medium
Reflection: Low
Mirror: High
Water: Custom
Volumetrics: Custom
Particles: Medium
Tessellation: High
FXAA: Off, TAA: Medium, MSAA: 0

Near Volumetrics Quality: High
Far Volumetric Quality: Low
Volumetric Lighting Quality: High
Unlocked Volumetric Raymarch Resolution: Off
Particle Lighting Quality: Medium
Soft Shadows: High
Grass Shadows: Medium
Long Shadows: Off
Full resolution SSAO: Off
Water Refraction Quality: High
Water Reflection Quality: Medium
Water Physics Quality: 25%
Resolution scale: 200%
TAA Sharpen Intensity: 100%
Motion Blur: Off
Reflection MSAA: Off
Geometry Level of Detail: 100%
Grass Level of Detail: 33%
Tree Quality: Low
Parallax Occlusion Mapping Quality: Medium
Decal Quality: Medium
Fur Quality: Medium

Generated on 2019-11-10 20:18 with Forceflow's RDR2 settings parser (https://bit.ly/2oZlIuy)
 
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Ogs

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hmm Vulkan seems to be a lot better on my system. Not sure if my OC is doing that much but here are my results:
  • i5 8600K @ 4.65 GHz
  • 16 GB DDR4 @ 2965 MHz
  • GTX 1080 @ 2076/6000 MHz
VULKAN
4K / 1080p


DX12
4K / 1080p

Here's the config:
Just gave it a whirl using your settings (couple of changes, TAA down to Med, POM down to Med, motion blur off) , 34 average at 4K. Everything is ran stock on my PC though so I guess thats why you are getting a boost :)
 

laxu

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Nov 26, 2017
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In case anyone is wondering how different ultrawide resolutions appear in terms of viewing area:

 
Oct 25, 2017
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Great, now the game crashes every time I visit the barber or a wardrobe.
Didn't have this problem before though..tf is wrong with this game?

EDIT: Crashes during benchmark tests now too, ever since that new patch came the other day everything went to shit.
*sad cowboy noises*
 
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freshVeggie

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Oct 25, 2017
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You're welcome!

You still have stutters? How often are they and what CPU do you have?
On Windows 10, adding the game's executable to Exploit Protection and overriding Control Flow Guard may help with the stuttering issues.

You can search for Exploit Protection in your Windows 10's search bar!

The Windows Club - How to Add or Exclude an app in Exploit Protection of Windows 10



Dude. Duude! I have an i5-4690, 4core-4thread potato.
That solved so much on my rig! Switched to DX12 now and the game finally shows the correct amount of VRAM in the graphics settings menu.
Played for an hour in the camp in chapter 2 (chores) and I had zero stutters! ZERO!

On Vulkan, once my VRAM hit 3500MB, I got steady freezes that lasted 5-10 seconds.
Now, following your tip, I peg 3700-3800MB on my GTX 970 and there are zero freezes. Was impossible on Vulkan. This is insane, yo!
It's gotten so good that I went Fullscreen 2560x1080 with TAA even!! Going back to 21:9 feels really cozy man.
Really envy you folks who can brute-force 60fps at this clarity.

Tried out internal res scaler for fun as well.
Native 2560x1080

2560x1080 at 1.5 res scale

2560x1080 at 0.5 res scale


Gotta admit, if I squint real hard, the solid 60fps make it kinda work.
With the added bonus of immersion ;)
 

dEvAnGeL

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Oct 27, 2017
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the Nvidia RDR2 drivers are definitely bad, i reinstalled them and as soon as i started the game i got stutters and screen flashes, when back to the previous Drivers and all problems are gone, i mentioned this before in the thread, after that is when i decided to give the RDR2 drivers another go, it confirmed what i believed, at least for me the newest drivers are the culprit of many problems with the game.
 

Flappy Pannus

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Feb 14, 2019
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A 1080 for an Xbox one x experience. First time I have seen that. There goes the well optimized narrative.
Yeah, that's not great. A 1080 easily outpaces the X handily in virtually every other game. Yes there are settings which could be lowered further here if Rockstar provided them but requiring a 1080 to get ~30fps at 4k with console settings is kind of a new one.
 

Cyanity

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Oct 25, 2017
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the Nvidia RDR2 drivers are definitely bad, i reinstalled them and as soon as i started the game i got stutters and screen flashes, when back to the previous Drivers and all problems are gone, i mentioned this before in the thread, after that is when i decided to give the RDR2 drivers another go, it confirmed what i believed, at least for me the newest drivers are the culprit of many problems with the game.
Which driver did you revert back to? And uhh, what's the best way to revert? Full uninstall?