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Red Dead Redemption II PC performance thread
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Have Rockstar ever addressed the frametime spikes in Vulkan?
Screenshot is from the latest patch.
Screenshot is from the latest patch.
I've never seen in my life an update log that has so many crash fixes. How did they release the game in this state in 2019?
Have Rockstar ever addressed the frametime spikes in Vulkan?
Screenshot is from the latest patch.
There was something about getting the newest Nvidia drivers, because the previous drivers were at fault in combination with 4,6 core CPUs.
Other than that: The spikes are still there, even on more capable CPUs.
Can you visually see them? You have an uneven framerate there of 53... what is your target framerate and what is the refresh rate of your monitor?Have Rockstar ever addressed the frametime spikes in Vulkan?
Screenshot is from the latest patch.
Boy, and I went in expecting it to be a smooth experience like GTA V.
Prior to the recent crashing issues, which may have been fixed in a new NVIDIA driver update, I don't recall vanilla GTA V ever crashing on me.
120Hz G-sync display, so I'm really just targeting 40+ fps. The game is noticeably less smooth when the spikes start happening.
However, capping the FPS and having the game sit at that cap results in a perfectly smooth frametime graph. I don't really want to cap my game to ~40fps though; the higher frame rate feels so much better even with the stuttering.
Yeah I got around to it yesterday and it was a lot simpler than what I remember GTA5 mods being. Got that "files have been altered" warning though.
Wonder what the hold is with the weather tweak, they must not have found the setting that controls it yet.
Remember when everyone here was saying pre release that a 1070 was going to breeze through this game.
Huh. I guess I would wonder then what your CPU is exactly and I wonder if that is the problem because that is very periodic there.. Is that you like moving throught he world or sitting still?
The one thing is that the RTSS graph there is lacking any undersstanding of what the frame times are... it is near flat and then it has a drop down and a spike up (but with no context how low and high respectively above and below). How is the frametime graph so flat if you are leaving your framerate uncapped with Gsync on? That looks like a framepacing error (one tick above with a corresponding tick below), which does not make sense since you are not capping externally or elsewhere. Are you? Are you capping somewhere?
I mean variable framerate WILL result in variable frametimes, which is why capping is important for perfect smooth frametimes.
I'm capping to 117 in RTSS.
The stutters can happen when standing still or moving.
Of course, but variable frametimes are typically fine when using G-sync or Freesync. When the game isn't stuttering my graph can look like this and everything appears perfectly smooth:
That is your problem I would imagine - turn that off. Tell me if you see that same thing happening if you do not have that on.
Just did a walk around the camp and then rode my horse out through the woods. The stuttering seems exactly the same with or without the cap in place.
Switching to DX12 seems to completely get rid of the stutters, but I've had random crashes when using that mode so I've been hesitant to switch over.
You must have given him worms from bad meat. You need to take him to a doctor
Messing with frame rate caps some more... here's the game uncapped:
Same exact spot but with a 60fps cap in RTSS:
And the same spot again, now with a 50fps cap:
Not sure if I've seen a game do this before. Even though it's not hitting the cap, just having it in place at all seems to make the stutters smaller.
Same exact spot but with a 60fps cap in RTSS:
And the same spot again, now with a 50fps cap:
Not sure if I've seen a game do this before. Even though it's not hitting the cap, just having it in place at all seems to make the stutters smaller.
I am also confused, because the uncapped version shows frames spikes above and below, much like framepacing issues... which is just completely... huh?Messing with frame rate caps some more... here's the game uncapped:
Same exact spot but with a 60fps cap in RTSS:
And the same spot again, now with a 50fps cap:
Not sure if I've seen a game do this before. Even though it's not hitting the cap, just having it in place at all seems to make the stutters smaller.
Dictator This is also an ongoing issue for me.
Capping the framerate to something way above what I'm even able to get (like 120fps) will decrease the spikes significantly.
Capping it slightly under the current framerate will sort the problem out completely.
Recorded it about two weeks ago.
Maybe it's a ryzen issue? Maybe a newer AGESA version would fix it? (stuck on 1003abba, because Asus isn't releasing a newer one for my x470 CH7 wifi), maybe it is something else. I don't know, but it's annoying and doesn't even happen everywhere in the game world.
Capping the framerate to something way above what I'm even able to get (like 120fps) will decrease the spikes significantly.
Capping it slightly under the current framerate will sort the problem out completely.
Recorded it about two weeks ago.
Maybe it's a ryzen issue? Maybe a newer AGESA version would fix it? (stuck on 1003abba, because Asus isn't releasing a newer one for my x470 CH7 wifi), maybe it is something else. I don't know, but it's annoying and doesn't even happen everywhere in the game world.
Can you try to turn the Async Compute to 'True' in the config? Just for the kicks? What drivers are you on now?
I have similar config except 8600K so I can check when I get home. Does it matter where are you in-game wise or it's the same behavior in city/forest/camp?
New Nvidia drivers out with image sharpening support via control panel for Vulkan and OpenGL apps.
sweet, hopefully it gives a bit more performance through the control panel
May I recommend you cap the FPS to 50 if that's where your FPS hovers for the most time. Even with GSYNC uneven framepacing is still an issue, especially the bigger the frame lingers on screen (lower framerate) as it will cause visible judder/stutters, it's not that big of an issue with higher framerates as each frame has less time to stay on screen but with lower framerates it's best to just cap it.
That's what I'm doing with Red Dead, after tweaking my game with Dictator DF video (great work btw) I was getting anywhere from around 45ish to 60 depending on the scene and even when the framerate was fluctuating in a 3 or 4 frame difference the judder/stutter was very visible, even on GSYNC so I just capped it to 50 and I'm getting a stutter free/completely smooth experience 99% of the time.
In my opinion this is much better than having bad framepacing but higher framerate but that's just me.
EDIT: Refreshed the page and saw other examples regarding framepacing, it seems this game doesn't like your GPU being pushed to 99% usage, slightly lower GPU usage will result in better framepacing it seems. I had this same issue but capping it to a solid 50 solved it. This is on Vulkan mind you, I hear DX12 has better framepacing but worse performance so you kinda have to pick your poison I guess.
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Does control panel sharpening provide better performance than Freestyle sharpening?
slightly less impact, though even with freestyle impact is minor, 2-5% with GFE, about 1-3% with NVCP
Hello everyone. I was wondering if I could get some help with some settings help. I know I am asking for much without a lot of info, but I am not super tech savvy and think my question would be best suited here.
I am getting 27 to 35 FPS at 1440p with everything on High on average with this setup:
Intel Core i7 9700k 8 Core @4.90
A MPGZ390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC motherboard
16 Gigs of DDR4 3200 Memory
Nvidia Geforece RTX 2080ti 11gb ram
I would think I could get something better with my setup but I am obviously overlooking something. Thanks for the help!
I am getting 27 to 35 FPS at 1440p with everything on High on average with this setup:
Intel Core i7 9700k 8 Core @4.90
A MPGZ390 Gaming Pro Carbon AC motherboard
16 Gigs of DDR4 3200 Memory
Nvidia Geforece RTX 2080ti 11gb ram
I would think I could get something better with my setup but I am obviously overlooking something. Thanks for the help!
Yes, you should be performing much better. Check what settings you have on for MSAA and Resolution Scale first off cuz my firs tthought when reading your specs and what you're getting is that you might be downsampling
There is definitely something wrong. Like sredgrin said you should be performing a lot better (with 8700K/2080ti I get almost solid 60 fps at 4K, you should be closer to 80 or 90 fps at 1440p). What is your performance in other games/benchmarks?
Strange bug, especially with the consistent spikes. I don't think I've had this problem with Vulkan and I also have a 3700x, but with a 1080 Ti. Haven't played much yet thoughMessing with frame rate caps some more... here's the game uncapped:
Same exact spot but with a 60fps cap in RTSS:
And the same spot again, now with a 50fps cap:
Not sure if I've seen a game do this before. Even though it's not hitting the cap, just having it in place at all seems to make the stutters smaller.
No, you're definitely right about that. I'll drop a few of my settings down a bit and see if I can hit a locked frame rate.
Yes, finally!
How's the game running after the performance patches? Should I still wait buying?
The game runs (mostly) fine now. You might run into the odd crash or two, but the difference is night and day compared to launch. Make sure to use the optimized settings everyone's been posting here, because they make a HUGE (up to 60+% perf increase) difference with minimal drop in quality.
Clearly haven't seen the Borderlands 3 patch notes then.
Game runs alright but there is still a fair bit that is broken, for example the map aspect ratio on Vulkan in fullscreen is still messed up and the Companion app on mobile apps does not interface with PC version at all, which is ridiculous since it should pretty much run on the same code regardless of the host platform.
I just bought this laptop:
It should arrive next Tuesday or Wednesday, just in time for the Steam launch. What can I expect in terms of performance? Is ~80-90 FPS a reasonable target at 1080p? I'm willing to drop settings pretty hard (not the textures tho) since it's clear this game's concept of "low" is still awesome looking.
It should arrive next Tuesday or Wednesday, just in time for the Steam launch. What can I expect in terms of performance? Is ~80-90 FPS a reasonable target at 1080p? I'm willing to drop settings pretty hard (not the textures tho) since it's clear this game's concept of "low" is still awesome looking.
Just so you know, if it's anything like GTA V on steam, the game will still need to install and run the Rockstar Games Launcher to play the game.
I have a i5 4670K @ 4,4 and a RTX 2070.
What are my chances of running this with a smooth 60fps @ 1080p? 🤔
What are my chances of running this with a smooth 60fps @ 1080p? 🤔