Seems like a lot of these problems are caused by power scaling due to the need for people to play together.
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[Reddit] Removing your support items in Anthem massively increases melee/combo/proc/ult damage
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Seems like a lot of these problems are caused by power scaling due to the need for people to play together.
If the reddit post is true then the game is essentially a botchling.
Game devs make design descision that don't account for certain player behaviors all the time that in restrospect are really dumb. Things that come to mind for me are the twisted sword for Diablo 3 where a party of one ET wizard and 3 zero DPS supports did far more damage than a party of four DPS builds and unkillable turtle builds in one of the Dark Souls games.
The complaints about this issue in Anthem seem a little bit baffling to me. In Diablo 3 if something like this happened I doubt hardly anyone would complain about it since everyone benefits from it.
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It's pretty clear why the game has no stat sheet now. It's all bogus numbers that don't mean anything.
Clear.price gaming or some such. dude is like filip mucin as he has good editing skills but his videos are increadibly shallow and are just summaries with no original thought. Some of his videos also waste a lot of run time on the intro and outros that the actual content is much shorter than it seems.
this explanation is just insane.................no wonder a stat sheet doesn't exist...........all the numbers are bullshit.
maybe bioware should just kill the scaling. There is a reason so many online games and RPGs don't do it and if they do its max level down......not the otherway around.
This isn't going to be fixed in one patch, the entire systems around damage and scaling are completely broken. They basically need to rewrite how 1-30 and powerlevel works. This game is fucked.
Developer just replied, saying they have a hotfix
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheG...snt_matter_anymore_math/eillnya/?context=1000
The people replying to it are saying that that doesn't fix the core issue tho, so *shrug*
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheG...snt_matter_anymore_math/eillnya/?context=1000
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The people replying to it are saying that that doesn't fix the core issue tho, so *shrug*
That just means everyone just equips the highest rank items possible ignoring all modifiers.
The worst legendary is better then the perfect rolled epic.
hey look a hotfix that still doesn't fix the main issue of the powerlevel scaling
jesus, this fucking team i swear
Bioware doing their damndest to try and avoid the millions of dollars it would cost to rework the loot system and retest it constantly from lvl 1.
Color me convinced that they don't actually understand the core issue with their loot system.
BioWare community manager posted this:
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Spoke with the designer on this so I understand how it's being "fixed".
Instead of using how many items you actually have equipped, the calculation will be done by how many slots you have unlocked. This means at level 30, for example, your average power score will be divided by 11 even if you have empty weapon/gear/component slots."
There's a pretty big problem with this though - it doesn't fix the issue.
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Spoke with the designer on this so I understand how it's being "fixed".
Instead of using how many items you actually have equipped, the calculation will be done by how many slots you have unlocked. This means at level 30, for example, your average power score will be divided by 11 even if you have empty weapon/gear/component slots."
There's a pretty big problem with this though - it doesn't fix the issue.
Legitimate question: why do people still play this game? It must be some morbid curiosity in helping to test the game or find additional problems. Why waste hours and hours finding the "perfect roll" on gear when the gear stats in some cases mean literally nothing and in other cases will be completely redefined over the course of the next few months?
Probably:
- Expectation that the gear scaling will be fixed (they actually claimed today that it will be fixed in 1.0.4, the next patch)
- Legendary loot is still more interesting than the more "powerful" common loot
I was hooked on Dragon Age Inquisition Multiplayer, and a lot of problems were in that game, like some of the skill enhancing rings not working, and thanks to their very limited UI information you couldn't even tell. For over all stats you had to add them, looking over the numbers in the different gears, and your prestige amount for each attribute to determine the statistics you're interesting in knowing.
Hopefully now that they know how they should provide info, and make sure gear works correctly, this will make Dragon Age 4 so much better. If they end up finishing it before EA require their head I will concede that Anthem happening right after another Sci-Fi game was worth it.
Hopefully now that they know how they should provide info, and make sure gear works correctly, this will make Dragon Age 4 so much better. If they end up finishing it before EA require their head I will concede that Anthem happening right after another Sci-Fi game was worth it.
So here is Bioware on how they're addressing this: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheG...snt_matter_anymore_math/eillnya/?context=1000
Isn't this just fixing the illusion of power and not the actual damage scaling? I mean, if you are lower level and can only equip 7 pieces of gear, the scaling is better for you vs when you have 11 pieces. The difference will be that, since you won't have very powerful gear at lower level, you won't notice.
Yes, yes, and yes, this is exactly what this sounds like.
I don't get BioWare's obsession with scaling opposite to what loot is supposed to be doing. There's more than one idea I have that I think would work better, but then I realize that they must have had these too and still went with this scaling. Why?
My guess - it's so they can then scale you to NPC enemies.
The whole game is the illusion of progress - I've been in Grand Master 1 groups before with low level players as for some reason the game has match made me with well below level 30 players, and they got on absolutely fine as, I presume, everything to scaled for them.
Same with you can play the story missions with level 1 and level 20 characters in same group and it makes no difference.
Say with The Division 2, if you run off to level 10 missions at level 2 you will get murdered in one shot. It has exact character stats. I think these things are related.
But you can also get matched up and have your level scale up to the content in Division 2. That's the whole point of having normalized stats.
Anthem reminds me of The Phantom Pain - another game that ran out of development time and is cobbled together with unfinished concepts.
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Blizzard made the exact same mistake last year in the BfA expansion. Level scaling so poorly designed that players quickly realized if they unequipped the legendary amulet the game's expansion is built around, their characters actually ended up being more powerful. It's an issue many level-scaled games face, and it's hard to find one that does it well. It's a shame Bioware didn't learn from Blizzard's identical mistake though before pushing this patch.
Regarding WoW's level scaling, also from Reddit last year:
Regarding WoW's level scaling, also from Reddit last year: