I was referring to some people in this thread who clearly don't agree.
Is "gordo" used by alt right and neo Nazis to espouse the extinction of fat people? Cause if it is, they should, yeah.
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Reddit user:"Sony Banned me for a common nickname in my culture."
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Is "gordo" used by alt right and neo Nazis to espouse the extinction of fat people? Cause if it is, they should, yeah.
Yup. Pretty much every swedish childrens book ends with the word "slut."
I am aware that kike can be used as a disgusting slur against jewish people, but it's terribly ethnocentric to not understand that the world is a big place and that words can have other meanings in other cultures and languages. Not accepting that mostly reflect poorly on yourself.
Kike, much like n word is incredibly offensive and not just in America. The user shouldn't have banned considering the context and the nickname should have been changed instead, but insensitivity of people on this supposedly progressive board to the fact that Jewish people find this offensive is incredible and borders on anti-semitism.
I dunno, he's posting it on his own twitter out of his own free will, he wants the story to blow up.
No spanish speakers would be happy playing with a maricon gamertag even though that means nothing in english.
its not cultural oppression to block certain words at things like an account creation stage.
Note I am in no way absolving sony of any responsibility for not blocking this at account creation and bypassing this, or or not having namechange functionality which also bypasses this.
its not cultural oppression to block certain words at things like an account creation stage.
Note I am in no way absolving sony of any responsibility for not blocking this at account creation and bypassing this, or or not having namechange functionality which also bypasses this.
Update from the guy, looks like he may be making progress with Sony -
"EDIT 6: sorry for all the edits, I got off the phone with a supervisor I talked to who speaks Spanish and he said he's going to escalate the issue and gave me number. That they would call me back. I was also told that the incident was covered in this article!" (https://www.altchar.com/games-news/582270/sony-issues-a-controversial-ban-for-offensive-psn-id)
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/9zaddy/sony_banned_me_for_a_common_nickname_in_my_culture/
"EDIT 6: sorry for all the edits, I got off the phone with a supervisor I talked to who speaks Spanish and he said he's going to escalate the issue and gave me number. That they would call me back. I was also told that the incident was covered in this article!" (https://www.altchar.com/games-news/582270/sony-issues-a-controversial-ban-for-offensive-psn-id)
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/9zaddy/sony_banned_me_for_a_common_nickname_in_my_culture/
Some people challenged that they are most people using it as a slur than Enrique's in South America and Spain combined.
There were two dubs. In the second one it was renamed to Lapuntú
It sounded weird as fuck
Is used by all right, left, nazis, muslims, best and worst people in the world to shame and bully fat people, in lots of cases with deadly results.
It's a slur in any case.
I do think this could be ethnocentrism but Sony does have to be culturally sensitive . I think going forward Sony needs to stop being so Americanized but at the same time block certain usernames from being spelled a certain way to avoid offending different cultures across the board not just those who only offend a certain group of people.
Blocking you from games that has been purchased is BS
It is not a slur. That spelling is an offensive slur in English, yes, but in this case, it is a person's (nick)name in Spanish. Yes, context does matter.
And for anyone to tell someone that his/her own name is offensive just because it's spelled the same as a slur in your language/culture is quite honestly just straight up racist. How would you like it if someone told you not to use your own name?
nvm you're right, please continue to try and decode his email too.
The number of people who're like "what's this thing about kike being a slur, I've never heard of that, so you should just shut up" would be fuckin' astonishing if it wasn't entirely expected. It's not just an American slur, the world is a big place, and sometimes stuff that's just fine and dandy where you are is sensitive somewhere else. Because everything's interconnected, just respect other people's boundaries when you find out about them. This guy shouldn't have lost his account over it, but changing the name so that it's no longer entirely identical in appearance to a common anti-Semitic slur is not even sort of unreasonable.
Does Maricon mean a thing in another language? Is it a diminutive for a name? No? Oh, then what you're saying makes 0 fucking sense.
Who new? it took a guy who spoke spanish to understand the issue? Future of gamers is bleak for non English Speaker countries.
Even if it were an "n" what the fuck does that prove? There are a gazillion possibilities other than "penanieto" that could make up the rest of his email. He could also have the same name as the Mexican president.
The idea that costumer service shouldn't take a customer seriously because their email address is similar to a politician's name is about as stupid as the idea that someone should be banned without warning because there name is offensive when pronounced in a different language.
Again, it's not an American slur. It is offensive in other English speaking cultures and understood I am sure by large swaths in Europe.
The story blowing up will be in his favor at least. This will end with a relatively happy ending where he gets a name change and can keep playing. At least I would think that's the way it normally ends, but with Playstation support you never know.
Pretty sure someone whose name is Gaylord is going to run into problems.
I still can't believe they can just wipe away ALL your games when banned like this. It's theft, I don't give a shit what terms of use states.
Does anyone else do this garbage or is it just Sony?
Does anyone else do this garbage or is it just Sony?
If my name was a racially charged word for that person? I would use another nickname around him and I would understand not being able to register under that name on global services. You know, cause I understand seeingseeing ra charged language can be very hard.
AFAIK every other service on the face of the earth will just make you change your name for something like this, unless you've got a history of behavior to go along with it. No sign of that, so it seems Sony's the odd man out here.
So if there was - say - a small town in hampshire called maricon and people from there wanted to use it as their sigin in, thats all okay? Because its innocent in english?
A Filipina coworker offered me Puto the other day, and I must say, it was delicious.
We had a nice laugh of how in my language it has very negative connotations against the LGBTQ+ community, but in the Philippines it's a dessert. I didn't try to police her language either, because who am I to do that?
We had a nice laugh of how in my language it has very negative connotations against the LGBTQ+ community, but in the Philippines it's a dessert. I didn't try to police her language either, because who am I to do that?
I don't think it's straight up racist, but it's really really ignorant and I honestly can't believe that some people here feel that way.
My name is also Enrique, and whenever someone calls me that nickname, they spell it Quique. Never knew about that spelling. Weird.
To be fair now that the guy knows, he's all in for changing his username:
onesolipsistic said: Not that it matters, but kike also means vagina in the Philippines.
Kikep0912 said: Jesus Christ from now on any username I want I'm googling the words to make sure it doesn't have a different meaning. What a world. Only shows how diverse this world is
Kikep0912 said: Jesus Christ from now on any username I want I'm googling the words to make sure it doesn't have a different meaning. What a world. Only shows how diverse this world is
He seems to put it as being open-minded about other possibilities.
https://dodgers.mlblogs.com/dude-smile-an-introduction-to-enrique-kiké-hernandez-95fe06c19763
There's a Major League Baseball player named Kike Hernandez.
Teams and the press have been using an accented e at the end to avoid controversy.
There's a Major League Baseball player named Kike Hernandez.
Teams and the press have been using an accented e at the end to avoid controversy.
If it's moderated accordingly, sure. But, there's a difference between your strawman and real people called Enrique.
It's almost like we should respect other cultures interpretations of vocal sounds and not declare ourselves the undisputed masters of "the way it should be".
Yeah, this is not a Zwarte Piet situation where something obviously racist or discriminatory is happening and they're too stubborn to change it, the guy's name, which is also a very common name in Spanish speaking countries, just happens to be spelled like a slur. It's not even pronounced the same way.
I understand why they would ban him but ASAP he should be allowed a name change. The sooner that feature launches the better.
There are so many cases where this can happen. Imagine you came from the country "Niger". Does that mean you can't create a psn with your countries name in it?
There are so many cases where this can happen. Imagine you came from the country "Niger". Does that mean you can't create a psn with your countries name in it?
Yeap, and yet we have a failure to understand something simple like that.
He should have been giving an option to change his PSN name though instead of outright ban considering the context and if there wasn't a history of bad behavior.
MS will do the name change vs the ban, for example. Anyone remember Faintcolt saga from the old board?
Do you really not see the distinction between an in-person conversation with someone you know and running into internet randos on a gaming platform?
Its not a "strawman" that where a word is innocuous in one language but highly offensive in another, the innocuous word routinely gets filtered as though it was the offensive one
Seems like it. However when considering a world wide service you really can't have offensive racial or religious slurs on there.
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