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Regarding dudes who freak the FUCK OUT over the idea of co-ed professional sports
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Just to clarify, are you talking about ALL sports in general or purely ones based on physical attributes?
This is a post about co-ed sports? I'm kind of lost.
What you are describing is not really something I've seen. If anything my friends complain about bad male players they wish could be dropped from the team. But it's rec league.
If you want to be in competitive sports play in a competitive league.
edit: ohhhh pro sports. can't say this is a thing i've ever seen. if women are good enough to play, let em play. I have never heard otherwise until we get into mma. Are women in mma asking to compete against men? I haven't seen it.
What you are describing is not really something I've seen. If anything my friends complain about bad male players they wish could be dropped from the team. But it's rec league.
If you want to be in competitive sports play in a competitive league.
edit: ohhhh pro sports. can't say this is a thing i've ever seen. if women are good enough to play, let em play. I have never heard otherwise until we get into mma. Are women in mma asking to compete against men? I haven't seen it.
Are you taking about something like having football teams with both men and women on them, and how some men react negatively to the idea? I'm not the brightest, I'm not really understanding what you're talking about exactly.
Whichever ones cause the blown gaskets as referenced in the title
It would be helpful if you gave an example because your post has a lot of reaction to something but you don't give an example of what that thing is.
well i read the OP and it's kind of trying to tackle like 30 topics at once.
Dudes who have irrational responses to women in sports in general somehow, dudes who put their imagery in sports, the topic of how even though we are all individual in physical attributes that we still rely on a standard for sports and how to alienate others, the concept of teaching boys that women can't perform better than them etc etc...
I mean would i be wrong in saying men are natrually stronger than women. And without getting into the biological aspects of hormones boxing would be unfair if it was a co-ed sport
i already have one pretty substantial argument for this topic summed up in one word too: TESTOSTERONE.
it's pretty influential.
it's pretty influential.
Tbh, OP's writing is awful. Too convoluted and too many attempts at humor. Just ask the questions and maybe add a joke or too. Never sacrifice clarity for style if you actually want your questions answered.
This is generally era in a nutshell.
Op strikes me as someone who doesn't even understand what he's talking about nor watches much sports, so the actual mechanics behind what he's talking about elude him to the point he's reducing them down to absurdity because that's the only way he can understand them.
Yeah OP your entire premise feels like an exaggeration. I'm not familiar with what you're referring to, really.
I always thought men had naturally stronger upper body and women had far stronger lower due to our biology and it would kind of skew competitions? I mean non contact sports I don't see a problem with coed competition. I don't understand your anger op and your post feels like it is all over the place
The best way to ensure that there are no sports at all for women is to have them compete with men. You're just throwing us back to the eighteenth century.
Also, put down the weed.
Also, put down the weed.
Give us an example or source to read OP. I personally have no issue with guys and gals competing, but you just don't see many competitive, seasonal sports where women can compete with men.
Holy shit this was a bad idea.
"Hey men, why do most of you react this way to this?"
Most men respond to the thread by reacting that way to this. I don't know what I was expecting. I'm embarrassed. Didn't help that when I'm angry I'm incoherent. Also good to know that when people disagree with me, rather than ignore my attempts at humor they call it out for what it is. So people always agree with me but they just think I'm unfunny. Got it.
"Hey men, why do most of you react this way to this?"
Most men respond to the thread by reacting that way to this. I don't know what I was expecting. I'm embarrassed. Didn't help that when I'm angry I'm incoherent. Also good to know that when people disagree with me, rather than ignore my attempts at humor they call it out for what it is. So people always agree with me but they just think I'm unfunny. Got it.
You should be.
EDIT: Thanks for at least editing the OP to not be a completely baseless and dumb tirade.
Who hurt you OP?
As for actual retorts, one of the more famous examples of a man vs woman match in tennis
As for actual retorts, one of the more famous examples of a man vs woman match in tennis
Sorry, OP. You have no idea what you're talking about. Co-ed pro sports would kill women's participation in pro sports completely.
Men and women are different physically. That's not up for debate. Yes, you will have men that smaller and women that are stronger, but by rank averages, men outcompete women in size, power, speed, strength.
Ultra distance running is probably the most equitable of sports competition, though. There are some exceptions.
I really don't know why this has become a controversial thing over the years. Stop trying to do this.
Men and women are different physically. That's not up for debate. Yes, you will have men that smaller and women that are stronger, but by rank averages, men outcompete women in size, power, speed, strength.
Ultra distance running is probably the most equitable of sports competition, though. There are some exceptions.
I really don't know why this has become a controversial thing over the years. Stop trying to do this.
Your thread was about how men react to confusing and rambling arguments?
For people just coming into the thread and just see this and the what is now the op: dude originally had a long, rambling, incoherent mess of a topic post filled to the brim with hostile strawmans and reductio ad absurdum fallacies.
Not a good look wiping your op like that and then trying to play the victim. Grow up, man.
If I was arguing for why cookies were delicious, no one would give a shit how it was written. People are calling out the rambling argument because they fundamentally disagree.
Here, just for you bud. I'll put it down here. Hang it up on the wall and remember how more mature you were than I was today.
He's talking about pro sports, as in athletes making money. I don't think anyone is against hobby co-ed competition.
Any sport that has a lick of physicality to it is going to be dominanted by men. Co-ed sports just dondo work on a biological level.
Also what are you talking about?
Also what are you talking about?
No, you were really rude and saying we're all just fragile little whiny men.
Your posts just seemed incoherent, i personally didnt understand there were attempts at humor, if you claim men are angry at the idea of men and woman competing at sports do you have examples of this happening?
No your original OP was just really confusing and seemingly about a subset of an issue that I and apparently many others have never encountered. But you've got it in your head that everyone else is wrong and working against you due to some prejudice, so there doesn't seem to be any reasoning with you.
Oh ok, I didn't quite understand from all of that. Yeah women competing against men in professional sports I think is a bad idea. The difference in our physiology is just too great.
OK, yes. I wanted to talk about male fragility. This was a bad attempt at framing it via something more specific.
Yes, it's projection. That shouldn't prevent me from being able to talk about it.
Certain men are really weird about women competing with men, to the point that they actually believe that men and women need to have separate chess leagues.
People have posted tons of evidence on why it's not a good idea on GAF and now on this thread. How is this about male fragility?
TBF in tennis case women and men aren't playing and preparing for the same sorts type of match. The prepartions needed for a professional match (mentally and physically) are very different. Max amount of sets a woman will play in grand slam level event is 3 with an extension of the 3rd in a championiship final. The minimum amounts of sets a men's professional at a grand slam is 3. Even if they were all the same gender you'd see some stark differenences when put under those envirnoments even if they only play 3 sets. It's not that women can't play 5 sets it's just how it's set up. Under that scenario the diffence likel wouldn't be so stark.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/4105392/
If anyone else asks, would you do me a favor and point them to this post? If they're as interested as you are?
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