Richard: I think Sony did sort of let down Evolution Studios: if you look back at what happened with Forza Horizon, a very similar concept, an offshoot driving game, that's kind of like possibly initially overshadowed by the colossus, which in this case would be Gran Turismo, but you know, get behind the game, invest in the team, [by] the second game, the third game, you look at what Playground have achieved with Forza Horizon it's now eclipsing the original franchise entry. It's amazing.
John: I've heard some rumors there that I guess the Gran Turismo guys weren't too thrilled about this, Yamauchi and everything, he wasn't exactly happy about Driveclub being in development and the quality of the visuals, and you have to remember that Gran Turismo 6 came out in 2013 after PS4 launched, but it launched on PS3. So, you know, compared to what these guys were doing with Driveclub, GT6 looked ancient. So, you know, it's a bit weird.