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REPORT: Star Trek 4 has been Canceled.

Oct 29, 2017
1,524
New York
#1
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(It's 5am, time to sleep)

Star Trek fans are in for a bit of bad news. The long-gestating Star Trek 4, the planned sequel to 2016's Star Trek Beyond, appears to have been put on indefinite hold.
The news comes from Deadline, who's reporting that the movie has been shelved following the departure of its director, SJ Clarkson, who has just been recruited by HBO to helm and executive produce its secretive Game of Thrones spinoff/prequel pilot.


From Deadline:

"I hear Clarkson was recruited by HBO for GOT after she recently became available. Earlier this year, Clarkson was the first female director to be tapped to direct a Star Trek movie when she was hired to helm the fourth feature in the current series. That project has since been shelved."

Other Details:

Star Trek 4 has been stuck in development ever since the release of Beyond three years ago. At first, it was said that the movie would reunite Chris Pine's Captain James T. Kirk with his on-screen father George Kirk, who was played by a pre-Marvel Cinematic Universe Chris Hemsworth in J.J. Abrams' 2009 Star Trek reboot movie. Star Trek 4 was set to somehow employ some form of time travel to bring father and son together again for a daring new adventure.

However, it was later reported that both actors had walked away from the project following pay disputes. The fate of the movie was then put into question, although stars such as Karl Urban and John Cho remained hopeful that the film would still happen. In early 2018, SJ Clarkson was tapped to become the first female director to helm a Star Trek movie. Now however, Clarkson has departed the project and she is now set to helm the pilot episode of HBO's next Game of Thrones series.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,698
#4
Well, at least we got Beyond out of the reboot. The only movie that actually felt like Star Trek.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
3,658
#5
I was under the impression that this was pretty much bound to happen given the underwhelming performance of Beyond.

I'm surprised the discontinuation of the series hadn't been official yet.
 
Oct 26, 2017
112
#10
Beyond was an awesome film and good Trek, too. Sad, but at least Trek's looking way healthier on the TV front these days.

We've been through worse, I'd say.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,480
#13
I mean really the issue was that the whole cast was ready after Trek 09 to do a traditional series for at least one season on TV but Viacom and CBS arguing over the rights to distribute killed the momentum as they carried off Into Darkness and the reboot franchise never really recovered or found it's footing in the mass market.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,698
#25
I haven't seen Beyond yet, so I should then? Thought people were quite disappointed in it.
Some people were disappointed because it felt like a TV episode but I consider that a postive. The character interactions are perfect, Kirk finally acts like he's worthy of sitting in the chair and there is just the right amount of fan service. I say go for it.
 
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Oct 28, 2017
1,718
#29
not really surprised, and with the new TV shows (Discovery and the new Picard one) they will probably do a movie for them rather than in the current film universe.
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,354
#36
I haven't seen Beyond yet, so I should then? Thought people were quite disappointed in it.
it is a matter of taste.
the first 30 minutes or so...until they leave for the mission are some of the best cinema star trek

after that it turns into an overlong "monster of the week" tv episode for me which I did not like.

of course this is like I said a matter of personal taste
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,721
Skövde, Sweden
#37
Some people were disappointed because it felt like a TV episode but I consider that a postive. The character interactions are perfect, Kirk finally acts like he's worthy of sitting in the chair and there is just the right amount of fan service. I say go for it.
People wated big dumb explosions and drama. It was my favourite and I'm not even a Star Trek follower.
it is a matter of taste.
the first 30 minutes or so...until they leave for the mission are some of the best cinema star trek

after that it turns into an overlong "monster of the week" tv episode for me which I did not like.

of course this is like I said a matter of personal taste
Guess I am giving it a shot then!
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,526
France
#42
It's a such a shame this reboot never found much of an audience internationally. That cast is so good.
And even though all 3 films had their flaws, particularly Into Darkness, I enjoyed all of them.
 
Oct 28, 2017
950
#43
Into Darkness did a lot of damage, the third movie was always going to suffer for it.
Yep. Bumblebee is unfortunately taking a hit thanks to the Bay films.

It’s a bummer this was cancelled. I loved the cast, had great chemistry together. But they also fucked up taking four years to make a sequel after Star Trek 09 came out and had a lot of hype.

It didn’t help that by the time Into the Darkness was released, JJ was confirmed to be leaving Star Trek to direct the new Star Wars. Also, it not being it’s own story, rather than trying to do a play on Wrath of Khan was a bad idea. I still enjoyed the movie though.

Edit: Star Trek Beyonds first trailer didn’t help the franchise either. Awful trailer.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,135
#45
Into Darkness did a lot of damage, the third movie was always going to suffer for it.
Contrary to internet belief, I really don’t think Into Darkness has anything to do with Beyond’s shortcomings considering the relative success of ID amongst general audiences and critics.

I’m almost certain it’s because Paramount seriously botched pushing the brand name the last few years even for its 50th Anniversary at the time. The marketing for Beyond even felt nonexistent compared to the 2 other movies.

EDIT: Looking back at it now, the cracks also started to show in the lead up to ID too. They really waited too long in terms of taking advantage of 09’s success with that one.
 
Dec 26, 2018
3,313
#46
Contrary to internet belief, I really don’t think Into Darkness has anything to do with Beyond’s shortcomings considering the relative success of ID amongst general audiences and critics.

I’m almost certain it’s because Paramount seriously botched pushing the brand name the last few years even for its 50th Anniversary at the time. The marketing for Beyond even felt nonexistent compared to the 2 other movies.

EDIT: Looking back at it now, the cracks also started to show in the lead up to ID too. They really waited too long in terms of taking advantage of 09’s success with that one.
It's not mutually exclusive, associated with ID didn't kick in financially until later on. Movies rely on previous instalments to maintain momentum.
 
Oct 25, 2017
598
USA
#47
Some people were disappointed because it felt like a TV episode but I consider that a postive. The character interactions are perfect, Kirk finally acts like he's worthy of sitting in the chair and there is just the right amount of fan service. I say go for it.
Agree! Beyond is my favorite.
 
Jul 5, 2018
172
#48
Too bad.

But Tarantino's Star Trek is still a thing? In what kind of scenario is Tarantino's Star Trek supposed to take place? Which characters will be featured in it? Which timeline?
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,500
MSN, WI
#49
It's a such a shame this reboot never found much of an audience internationally. That cast is so good.
And even though all 3 films had their flaws, particularly Into Darkness, I enjoyed all of them.
The Kelvinverse movie casts are complete and utter dogshit.

There isn’t a thing that could be done that would make me interested in watching new Star Trek content.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,135
#50
It's not mutually exclusive, associated with ID didn't kick in financially until later on. Movies rely on previous instalments to maintain momentum.
Yeah, but the impression I always get from discussions is always along the lines of “Into Darkness was shitty enough to turn off audiences for good.” But I think the main problem — despite being a really solid summer blockbuster that year — was that it didn’t spur any big emotions, good or bad, out of audiences in the long term after its initial release compared to its predecessor.