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These things needed to be said, and it's good that these women are getting out there and saying it.

At the same time, I share the fear that others here have that Trump singling out these women in particular means that sometimes within the next 12 months, one or more of them is going to end up dead from a shooting due to a "crazy, nutty, lone wolf, wherever do these guys get their ideas from?"
Last year we had a trumper send out bombs to dems in the mail. That line has already been crossed.
 

Vas

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Oct 25, 2017
4,016
I like Pelosi, but she needs to come out and be more affirmative in support of some of her more vulnerable colleagues. If she's truly as shrewd a politician as I think she is, she should recognize how Trump has effectively alleviated the burden of the Socialist narrative. Now it's about racism and decency. I mean, it always was, but Trump really really gave a gift. Him melting down is hilarious. "Give GOP votes to change laws" BITCH YOU HAD 2 FUCKING YEARS WITH FREE REIGN TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANTED!!!!!!! What a ****. It's irrational how much I hate that idiot and the 'peopel' who think he's brilliant.
 

Inuhanyou

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,214
New Jersey
These things needed to be said, and it's good that these women are getting out there and saying it.

At the same time, I share the fear that others here have that Trump singling out these women in particular means that sometimes within the next 12 months, one or more of them is going to end up dead from a shooting due to a "crazy, nutty, lone wolf, wherever do these guys get their ideas from?"

Omar was already put a target on from both dems and GOP by calling her antisemetic for questioning the American goverment's relationship to israel. If she ends up dead, its going to be obvious why, but of course they wont take responsibility for that
 

Palette Swap

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
11,217
This is an absolute waste of time of their part. You can shame the president and leadership all you want. We've seen nothing change.
At the very least, from a personal standpoint, it seems perfectly sane to me that when you're publicly bullied, you take a massive public stand to tell your bully that they can fuck off.

Never mind the signal effect: if that piece of shit can show the nation it's okay to make racist attacks, the least they can do is signal that it's okay if you're a minority to fight back, because it's not like you can count on tepid white "allies" who allowed this to happen in the first place.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Lmao so they are cages then huh
Whoops!

At the very least, from a personal standpoint, it seems perfectly sane to me that when you're publicly bullied, you take a massive public stand to tell your bully that they can fuck off.

Never mind the signal effect: if that piece of shit can show the nation it's okay to make racist attacks, the least they can do is signal that it's okay if you're a minority to fight back, because it's not like you can count on tepid white "allies" who allowed this to happen in the first place.
Real,shit right here.
 

Inuhanyou

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,214
New Jersey
At the very least, from a personal standpoint, it seems perfectly sane to me that when you're publicly bullied, you take a massive public stand to tell your bully that they can fuck off.

Never mind the signal effect: if that piece of shit can show the nation it's okay to make racist attacks, the least they can do is signal that it's okay if you're a minority to fight back, because it's not like you can count on tepid white "allies" who allowed this to happen in the first place.

Thank you.
 

ezekial45

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,755
These four women are incredible. They're the real leadership this party needs. That entire press conference was a breath of fresh air, we all really needed to hear that.
 

GuessMyUserName

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
5,176
Toronto
Hell yeah Zerlina Maxwell not letting Kornacki obfuscate Omar's calls on impeachment and comments about collusion as anything other than facts laid out in the Mueller Report
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Lmao so they are cages then huh
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SArcher

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Oct 26, 2017
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I do and this is why I say this. If you don't have your peers back, you don't have the votes, and then you don't have the power. Unbreakable my way or the highway stances when you are only 4 voting members means you take the highway.

So they should just follow the status quo until....? It's pretty obvious that playing by the existing rules doesn't get shit done.
 

Vas

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Oct 25, 2017
4,016

I've admired her leadership, intelligence, and decency for as many years as I've been voting (16). I like AOC, too. I like Beto, Warren, Harris, Biden... not everything has to be a line in a sand with me. Although, that's not to say that a few politicians have me polarized, too.
 

Shoeless

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Omar was already put a target on from both dems and GOP by calling her antisemetic for questioning the American goverment's relationship to israel. If she ends up dead, its going to be obvious why, but of course they wont take responsibility for that

This is my fear. Obviously, if they come to harm, it won't be an orchestrated conspiracy, with under-the-table deals for assassins to take them out. It's just going to be Fox, or Info-Wars, or One American News enraging some white guy to feel his way of life is under the threat, and the usual American problem solving of "All it takes is one hero, with a gun," to do the rest.

No one needs to actually conspire to hurt these women, they just need to make one of the millions of conservative white American males angry enough that one of them takes matters into his own hands, and then afterward, just blame the Evil Mainstream Media for it afterward.
 
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This is my fear. Obviously, if they come to harm, it won't be an orchestrated conspiracy, with under-the-table deals for assassins to take them out. It's just going to be Fox, or Info-Wars, or One American News enraging some white guy to feel his way of life is under the threat, and the usual American problem solving of "All it takes is one hero, with a gun," to do the rest.

No one needs to actually conspire to hurt these women, they just need to make one of the millions of conservative white American males angry enough that one of them takes matters into his own hands, and then afterward, just blame the Evil Mainstream Media for it afterward.
I think we need to start holding people accountable for their words. Including the occupant of the White House. You start stirring up these lone wolves, you get the same charge.
 

SArcher

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She did rally Dems to prevent his stupid border wall from happening and fought back against his government shutdown idiocy.

She was doing pretty good at the start... but that doesn't give her a pass right now.

That's called doing the bare minimum.
 

Zoph

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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It is impossible to call anything the rest of Washington is doing leadership when held up in the shadow of the Justice Dems. They have completely unmasked the cowardice and dereliction of the political class simply by doing their jobs.
 

maxxpower

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Oct 25, 2017
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I do and this is why I say this. If you don't have your peers back, you don't have the votes, and then you don't have the power. Unbreakable my way or the highway stances when you are only 4 voting members means you take the highway.
They may not have any power but at least someone is finally showing a fucking spine and they do have a voice.
 

Garlador

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Oct 30, 2017
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Heh. This honestly should be used against him more often. It's his "go to" last defense.

He's like a doll you pull the string on to hear the catchphrase, and he's been playing the same tune for years.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The clap heard 'round the world
Had me shook! I tell you. Shit changed my life.







How is it already great? Piss on both of these tweets.
 

Inuhanyou

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Oct 25, 2017
14,214
New Jersey
It is impossible to call anything the rest of Washington is doing leadership when held up in the shadow of the Justice Dems. They have completely unmasked the cowardice and dereliction of the political class simply by doing their jobs.

JD coming from humble youtube beginnings is very awe inspiring. Imagine if we had far more progressive voices with the power just a handful do to create an organization like this through just will alone

They may not have any power but at least someone is finally showing a fucking spine and they do have a voice.

Having a voice is before having actual power, because having a voice is the power. That is what every leader in history has shown.