I was a floater, Fine arts, AND a druggie/stoner back in high school.
Art nerd/stoner was a pretty common overlap in my highschool. Probably best way to describe my social position lol.
I was a floater, Fine arts, AND a druggie/stoner back in high school.
You've got over 1700 posts on a video game enthusiast forum. Why are you this judgmental?
One of us.Because I am a well-adjusted person who rarely discusses video games at all? I would be shocked if I made more than 250 videogame-side posts between GAF and ERA in the past 13 years. I grew out of video games for the most part. Discussing them is no longer a part of who I am, outside of very few things that tie back to my adolescence (Shenmue and 3rd Strike), other than that, games have lost me. I am on ERA because I like the people I have come to known over the past 19 years and would be sad to not hear their insight on politics, music, sports, and general news.
Because I am a well-adjusted person who rarely discusses video games at all? I would be shocked if I made more than 250 videogame-side posts between GAF and ERA in the past 13 years. I grew out of video games for the most part. Discussing them is no longer a part of who I am, outside of very few things that tie back to my adolescence (Shenmue and 3rd Strike), other than that, games have lost me. I am on ERA because I like the people I have come to known over the past 19 years and would be sad to not hear their insight on politics, music, sports, and general news.
My high school didn't have an anime club. I can't remember anyone I would even classify as an anime fan.
We are both trash
Well, yeah, that's kind of my point. Why care what the majority of people think about your interests? Like I said, those type of judgmental people generally aren't worth socializing with because that behavior usually doesn't just stop there. I used to care what people thought... when I was a freshman in high school and sold all my Pokemon games because they were for kids and I wanted to be in with the cool kids and be mature. Now I'm a grown-ass adult and I'll play Pokemon openly because who cares?That's nice that you think and feel this way, but that is not how most people think. There is a reason why anime, furries, hardcore gaming, comics, and so on are still looked down as nerdy. It is great that you enjoy them (as you clearly do), but that won't stop the majority from thinking you are childish for doing so.
Well, yeah, that's kind of my point. Why care what the majority of people think about your interests? Like I said, those type of judgmental people generally aren't worth socializing with because that behavior usually doesn't just stop there. I used to care what people thought... when I was a freshman in high school and sold all my Pokemon games because they were for kids and I wanted to be in with the cool kids and be mature. Now I'm a grown-ass adult and I'll play Pokemon openly because who cares?
My main point is that any adult that can comfortably enjoy their nerdy hobbies or interests and talk about them in public while still being an adult is clearly secure in their own maturity while someone who looks down on other adults for enjoying those things most likely is not.
EDIT: It is comical that people are lashing out at my analysis, which is essentially the same as most other objective observers of anime culture from the outside. I didn't call you smelly with poor hygiene, poor social skills, and so on. I just said that sectioning yourself off to child-based pursuits will leave you outside the norm when everyone else is leaving that stuff behind from their daily lives. Yes, people will interact with nerdy things in general, but when anime becomes your life, the thing you think about and interact with the most (or just constantly), you become a social outcast except for within your small social strata. No reason to be hurt about it.
Well, yeah, that's kind of my point. Why care what the majority of people think about your interests? Like I said, those type of judgmental people generally aren't worth socializing with because that behavior usually doesn't just stop there. I used to care what people thought... when I was a freshman in high school and sold all my Pokemon games because they were for kids and I wanted to be in with the cool kids and be mature. Now I'm a grown-ass adult and I'll play Pokemon openly because who cares?
My main point is that any adult that can comfortably enjoy their nerdy hobbies or interests and talk about them in public while still being an adult is clearly secure in their own maturity while someone who looks down on other adults for enjoying those things most likely is not.
I fell sick that they put a pyramid when they should just classification the groups rather that make a "social hierarchy".
I mean, they're a pretty low-hanging fruit sometimes. :X
I liked anime but some fans are very...overt with it. They take to an 11 and it's just...kinda corny to watch.
Assuming this whole post isn't satire, this is one of the biggest problems with this site. People don't seem to be able to separate analysis from value judgement.
You typed an awful lot to get to your point. Which, from what I can tell, is that obsession at the cost of other hobbies and pursuits makes you a social outcast for the general populace. Which is absolutely true and is agnostic towards what hobby that is. You find your niche and you stick with it or you leave your niche and fit in with the "normies". It just so happens that the anime that gets a lot of attention tends to be really gross, so it gets a large brunt of the bullying. I knew kids that loved and obsessed over DBZ and they didn't get the same treatment as the kids that ran around calling things kawaii.Because I am a well-adjusted person who rarely discusses video games at all? I would be shocked if I made more than 250 videogame-side posts between GAF and ERA in the past 13 years. I grew out of video games for the most part. Discussing them is no longer a part of who I am, outside of very few things that tie back to my adolescence (Shenmue and 3rd Strike), other than that, games have lost me. I am on ERA because I like the people I have come to known over the past 19 years and would be sad to not hear their insight on politics, music, sports, and general news.
EDIT: It is comical that people are lashing out at my analysis, which is essentially the same as most other objective observers of anime culture from the outside. I didn't call you smelly with poor hygiene, poor social skills, and so on. I just said that sectioning yourself off to child-based pursuits will leave you outside the norm when everyone else is leaving that stuff behind from their daily lives. Yes, people will interact with nerdy things in general, but when anime becomes your life, the thing you think about and interact with the most (or just constantly), you become a social outcast except for within your small social strata. No reason to be hurt about it.
It is the same with sports nerds. There are people who love sports (myself) and then there are people who discuss every play of every game, know the stats of each player, and so on and then never stop interjecting into each conversation with that stuff. They are nerds too, but they are just fortunate that their nerdiness is encompassed into something more people interact with (sports). doesn't stop them from ostracizing themselves within their otherwise popular hobby.
You typed an awful lot to get to your point. Which, from what I can tell, is that obsession at the cost of other hobbies and pursuits makes you a social outcast for the general populace. Which is absolutely true and is agnostic towards what hobby that is.
This is kind of what I was getting at with one of my posts. Being a hardcore fan of anything mostly designed for kids or that is largely enjoyed primarily by socially stunted adolescents and adults is by its nature a little odd and will obviously put you in a box socially.
I didn't make fun of the kids in high school who worse button-up Goku shirts with flames on them and jorts, but then again, I wasn't friends with any of them, either, and I had friends amongst jocks, burn outs, drama kids, etc. They had their own language in a sense and were overly loud or abrasive for no reason at all.
They really are. If you can't converse about something that isn't your hobby, you're going to get ostracized by the general populace. Not being able to relate to someone is the primary reason (outside of societal shortcominga) people are looked down on. There's a reason you called them "gym rats" instead of enthusiasts. You're not gonna get it as bad as anime enthusiasts, but can you blame people? The most common thing that gets conjured up when you bring up anime is cartoon tits and fan service, if it isn't DBZ.Not really. There are plenty of hobbies which, if you spend all your time on at the cost of being well-rounded with hobbies, are not seen nearly as negatively. Sports, homebrewing, reading, working out are some examples. Whether or not we think gym rats are interesting people is one thing, but they aren't socially ostracized for spending 15 hours a week at the gym.
The problem is not so much the anime but the fact that many hardcore anime fans in grade school have horrid social skills, persecution complexes, and can't talk about anything else. Stoners were usually class clowns and very social.I don't think my highschool had an anime club back then. Occasionally watched it now and then.
Anime fans lower than Stoners and druggies. That's really sad.
You must be much older than me (I'm only in my late 20s) so I don't know how I will feel about my hobbies as I get older. I would guess our perspectives are very different based on our ages. I'm mostly talking about high school through college and into early independent adult life since that's my perspective. I meet plenty of well-adjusted adults around my age who are also into very nerdy things. It's funny even some people who I perceived as only being into "adult" stuff and hating nerdy things got super into Pokemon Go and that Harry Potter phone game. Or I'll find out they're Disney nerds or something.I agree with this 100%. People shouldn't be afraid of being socially ostracized if what they do makes them happy. Who cares about other people? I lost all my passion for video games at about 16 years old, but I oftentimes wish I was as passionate about people on here, because it used to be so fun. Now sitting down for a game is tedious as all hell most of the time. Playing Kinect or Wii with my kids is the most joy I have had with games in over a decade, no question.
Anime clubs would be much more popular if they had weed. 🌲👌I don't think my highschool had an anime club back then. Occasionally watched it now and then.
Anime fans lower than Stoners and druggies. That's really sad.
If you spent all your time doing any of these, and could only talk about these, you'll put off a ton of people socially. Definitely have heard friends complain about dates or SOs that act like this particularly with sports and fitness. It's just that on top of that, anime is seen as childish.
Not really. There are plenty of hobbies which, if you spend all your time on at the cost of being well-rounded with hobbies, are not seen nearly as negatively. Sports, homebrewing, reading, working out are some examples. Whether or not we think gym rats are interesting people is one thing, but they aren't socially ostracized for spending 15 hours a week at the gym.
Haha well, I believe it...I tried to float between sports and nerdy stuff and the anime crowd is usually pretty exclusive and anti-social
I do think it's telling that all the posters getting work up about this aren't calling out the posters saying that the stoners "should" be lower.
Is your problem hierarchy? Or is it that you happen to be near the bottom?
I had this same problem in tech school with the dudes who would talk to their cars.Turns out hanging out with people that wore cat ears in public and called other people onii-san were intolerable
I think you would be surprised. I don't know of anyone who likes to associate with gym rats. In a sense, they are anime fans. Many of them I have met are abrasive and socially stunted. Ones I have interacted with at the gym (I play racquetball, just not into lifting weights or fitness in general, lol) seem fairly sexist and jerkish. They are friends only with other meatheads or fitness freaks. Anybody that has a hobby that commands all of their attention and shapes the way they dress, talk, and interact with people outside of their social strata are going to put themselves in a box.
Gym rats have the benefit of doing something healthy (relatively, until/unless they start juicing and getting really strange), and are out of their houses. They also oftentimes come from backgrounds in which they built friendships (sports in school, etc.), whereas anime nerds don' t have that luxury.
I went to High School during the heyday of Naruto, and I remember seeing kids wear the headband to school. And I just wanted to know...why? What compels someone to social suicide?
I went to High School during the heyday of Naruto, and I remember seeing kids wear the headband to school. And I just wanted to know...why? What compels someone to social suicide?
US high schools seem like the least fun experience you can have at this age.
I'm from a country where we buy mangas like they're curing cancer so anime fans are never singled out as some kind of exclusionary hobby or some shit.
Can't say I left my childhood hobbies more than I actually piled more hobbies to the pile to the point I have to make a conscious choice on what to do.
Since everything popular is deemed trash anyway I'm gonna guess anime is considered trash unlike unpopular stuffs like reading books and watching old movies?
I shit you not, my English textbooks had people having hobbies like watching old western movies in a way that presented the activity like it was wholesome or some shit.
This whole thing is like the US way of showing kids good at school like they're unpopular in term of this being utterly unlike anything I experienced.