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Resident Evil 4 Demo controls/deadzones issues

Ravenwraith

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View: https://youtu.be/0_iApZxunP4



Did anyone else feel this? I thought movement and aiming felt particularly bad in the PS5 demo, it felt like I was dragging the cursor around instead of it feeling snappy like the OG. Friends agreed so we've been doing some digging and found this.

Is there any chance of this being fix post launch, or them adding some kind of deadzone slider/setting.
 
NediarPT88

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Ftr that's the Xbox version. On base PS4 at least deadzone isn't nearly as bad. Acceleration curve still sucks though.
 
raketenrolf

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My workaround was playing with a mouse & keyboard on PC. Planned to buy this on my PS5 because I wanted to play this on my OLED TV but I can't shoot shit with these controls and I got more frustrated than I had fun with it.

Played fine with a mouse.
 
PlanetSmasher

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We hope it's a demo issue, but yeah, I felt it on PS5 too. The aiming is terribly imprecise and sluggish.

Neoxon said:
There are also issues with the gyro aiming implementation.

View: https://twitter.com/Neoxon619/status/1633968549617188864
View: https://twitter.com/Neoxon619/status/1633988456245260288
View: https://twitter.com/Neoxon619/status/1633991418388574208
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Yes, the gyro implementation is baffling. It's nice that it's there but it needs a lot of work.
 
AgentOtaku

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I can't stress this ENOUGH:

Capcom have done this 3 TIMES NOW.

RE7, RE8 (and Gold Edition), and now RE4 Remake.

All of them have had this exact issue and Capcom haven't done shit. It's almost as if it's a deliberate choice ESPECIALLY when you consider Sony got the marketing for all of these games.

RE8's rumble on Xbox is literally broken. Literally. The right trigger completely doesn't work at all when firing guns. Yet, this is completely glossed over. I'm utterly baffled by it.

Considering the original RE4 has never even really been a favorite of mine, I'm probably just going to skip Remake entirely, precisely because of this issue. The demos for both RE7 and RE8 also had the whack, square deadzone issue early on and the final releases still had them as well.

It's fucking infuriating. I made the mistake of buying RE8 thinking they would fix it and they never did. I KNOW they won't fix it with RE4 remake either.
 
AgentOtaku

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PlanetSmasher said:
We hope it's a demo issue, but yeah, I felt it on PS5 too. The aiming is terribly imprecise and sluggish.



Yes, the gyro implementation is baffling. It's nice that it's there but it needs a lot of work.
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It's not a demo issue. It's a deliberate choice and THEY WON'T FIX IT.

Go download the demos for RE7, RE8 and RE8 Gold Edition 3rd person. It's the exact same.
 
Angst

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Papercuts

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The OP video specifically is the XSX version which is worse with the bigger deadzone/square shape, but the game does have a slow aim curve which with a deadzone in general will make it feel bogged down.

They really just...need to have a slider for deadzone.
 
nDesh

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I just don't get it, so many developers fall into this, snappy controls are essential.
 
Tendo

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I played the demo multiple times on ps5, messed with settings and I got it better but it still feels wrong.

Fired up RE4 original and was popping headshots everytime again. So something is screwy. And now I'm on chapter 3 of RE4. Again. For the millionth time.
 

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A Resident Evil 4 remake is going to release with worse controls/gameplay than the 18 year old original.
 

NuclearCake

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The PS4 and PS5 versions feel better but they are not ideal by any means. Xbox is just a mess.

AgentOtaku said:
It's not a demo issue. It's a deliberate choice and THEY WON'T FIX IT.
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Even if this is a deliberate choice, there is no reason why Xbox is worse than the PS5 in this regard. They must be testing all versions, so it is pretty insane that they did not notice how much worse one version feels to play.
 
ZeroX

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Well good to know I wasn't crazy about how bad it felt to play

AgentOtaku said:
All of them have had this exact issue and Capcom haven't done shit. It's almost as if it's a deliberate choice ESPECIALLY when you consider Sony got the marketing for all of these games.
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Before you get into weird conspiracy levels here you should know the PS5 has noticeably worse image quality than the XSX version
 
dralla

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Just an fyi, The right stick deadzone is better on PS5 but it still has all the other issues.

Neoxon said:
There are also issues with the gyro aiming implementation.

View: https://twitter.com/Neoxon619/status/1633968549617188864
View: https://twitter.com/Neoxon619/status/1633988456245260288
View: https://twitter.com/Neoxon619/status/1633991418388574208
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The bigger issue with the gyro is that it uses the same settings as the right stick camera controls, you can't configure it separately. That also means it's tied to the same acceleration curve and explains why it doesn't feel as good as other gyro games. You can get it feeling somewhat decent though. Turn up both speed and acceleration to max and turn on the reticle deceleration to 2 or so to compensate for your now insanely sensitive right stick horizonal movement. It plays almost like a flickstick when it's configured this way. It feels better than standard dual analog stick aiming imo, but could obviously be better if Capcom just gave us proper gyro config options.
 
Korigama

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Played through the PS4 demo another several times after learning about the secret TMP thing... nope, definitely still feels off to me. Even after getting used to no longer coming to a complete stop immediately after running, the movement and aiming are definitely less precise compared to the original RE4 that I've been replaying from the start.
 
Dupr Dog

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I don't understand how devs ship games with controls that feel so wrong that lots of people immediately notice it.

I won't be buying this unless it's fixed.
 
Zem

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It was bad on Village (Xbox) too, although not as bad as RE4 and they didn't fix it so I'd be surprised if they did fix this. The aiming is completely fucked. Play something like Dead Space and then switch to the RE4 demo, it's laughably bad.
 
SilentObserver

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AgentOtaku said:
All of them have had this exact issue and Capcom haven't done shit. It's almost as if it's a deliberate choice ESPECIALLY when you consider Sony got the marketing for all of these games.
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Just so you are aware, people are complaining about a visual bug on the PS5 version that is messing with the resolution, while things are fine on Series X.

Chances are this game is coming in hot on all platforms.
Hopefully every version will be in a better state at launch.
 
NightShift

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I love the way the game feels in general but yeah, aiming feels too awkward. I hope it's still something I can get used to because I learned to be pretty accurate with my shots in all the other recent RE games.
 
pswii60

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AgentOtaku said:
It's not a demo issue. It's a deliberate choice and THEY WON'T FIX IT.

Go download the demos for RE7, RE8 and RE8 Gold Edition 3rd person. It's the exact same.
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But it's variable. Not an issue on PC whatsoever, only slightly noticeable on PS5, and a deadzone travesty on Xbox. Having tried all three demos. And yes, same on the previous games.
 
TheEchidna94

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I've played RE2, RE3 and I'm currently playing RE8 in 3rd person. I had issues with the controls in those games but this demo felt horrendous. Callisto Protocol levels of clunky
 
aevanhoe

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Didn't notice anything - PS5, DualSense Edge. It felt intentional and similar to other modern RE games.
 
JudgmentJay

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Yeah, the dead zones in modern RE games are outrageous. I have to shrink them pretty drastically via Steam Input to make the games feel responsive.
 
astro

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Remember, dead zone issues aside, you can make the game feel /much/ better on all platforms by increasing acceleration and camera speed. I know a lot of people didn't do this and went with default controls, which are not good.

Upping the speed of these makes controllers feel much more responsive. Don't overlook it!
 
Masagiwa

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Yeah, thats why the KBM setup is the way to go. PS5 is better than whats demonstrated in the video.
 
Canyon

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Does this mean it's present on PC when using a controller?

EDIT: Huh, so if one were to use KB&M on console that would be a fix? It's mostly how the game interprets a controller?
 
Renna Hazel

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Yeah this somehow has the worst controls of any RE game since the original 4. I'm pretty disappointed but plenty of people seem to prefer it so I guess it's less an 'issue' and more a preference. Aside the Deadzone thing on Xbox, that's bad.
 
Finale Fireworker

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Renna Hazel said:
Yeah this somehow has the worst controls of any RE game since the original 4. I'm pretty disappointed but plenty of people seem to prefer it so I guess it's less an 'issue' and more a preference. Aside the Deadzone thing on Xbox, that's bad.
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Were you playing on Xbox? I'm wondering how much that contributed to our divided reactions — although I know it wouldn't be the only contributor.
 
iag

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I thought that was me just used to the tank controls from the original and not easily adapting to it.
 
Moff

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I play on PC with M/KB and I loved RE8 controls, no issues at all, just joy
but RE4 feels off on many levels, especially while still playing the Dead Space Remake which has perfect controls.
i will definitely fire up the RE4 demo a few times to get adjusted to the controls
 
Fire Bocchi

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Encephalon said:
I'm assuming there is an article or video out there proving this to be true?
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cant find a good article but found this
one example from it is cod black ops 1 vs 3
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btw these graphs are from the video creator in the op
 
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