"Add progression to encourage grinding and long-term attachment" Is such a cynical statement and yet it is at the core of so many video games that get made.
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This should be showed to all the people that defend companies thinking they don't know any better and do all the best they can and yada yada yada
What would you put higher? Id say several other titles are more tense but scarier or more horror? 7 is up there
None of the stuff presented here is the "fake leak".
I suppose they must be talking about something added to the pile of rumours before Resi 3 came out.
About a week before RE3R was officially announced, images of Jill and Nemesis were leaked online.
Per this, it was apparently a staged leak.
It's actually pretty common! It's like a visual shorthand to get whomever is hearing the pitch to grasp the concept visually, without also having to, say, have one of your artists create a mock up with assets that don't exist in your game yet. You could just show a slide with text describing the feature, but that can be kind of boring to look at, so grab a few images of a game with a similar feature, and maybe even a video of the feature in action, to better illustrate what you have in mind, and it can also, psychologically, increase the chance that the new feature gets greenlit. It's like, "Hey, this feature looks really cool, our game could definitely use something like that, and what the interface could possibly look like!" It's much more effective than a work in progress mock up someone on the staff tried to create as well.
I've been in a few "potential game features" presentations like this that are very similar. Some of them had slides of existing games with similar features, and others did actually have rough mock ups by a UI artist that had the bandwidth to produce it for the meeting.
Pretty much what I've been saying about leaks. Controlled leaks are a thing, either fake or real can be used as part of a marketing strategy. I'm 100% sure MS does controlled leaks.
Man, Kinda hurts more that they were fully aware of the game's shortness all along. Jill didn't deserve to be slighted like this. Especially for a game like Resistance. Welp, that kinda kills any of my hopes of a director's cut.
That's gotta be some 4Chan bullshit, it's too wildly different, things are poorly resized, and the type faces are all over the place, lol.
It's 4chan bullshit.
I saw that post before and they are desperately pretending RE3 "failing" was due to "woke" Jill or whatever.
Predictable, pathetic people as always.
If these docs are real, they're marketing plans. Most marketing teams - good ones at least - are very aware of the shortcomings of their projects and have to plan accordingly. They can give that feedback during production, but not all of it can always be addressed. At some point the game is what it is.
Here's the thing... they acknowledged it was short, released it to vitriolic fan feedback and lower review scores than it's predecessors... and still had it be the 14th-best selling game in company history. The RE brand was not damaged, since Village sold ludicrous.
So... speaking like a cold corporate shark, what is there to fix?
I don't understand the fake leak bullet point. Why would you want to antagonize your core fan base?
Talking about that, can we conclude all those updates were nothing? I mean, it's been a long time now. Some people were saying it might be promotional stuff for the film, but that's also past.
I think "antagonize" is a off translation maybe (assuming this was originally in Japanese and translated to English). "Tease" might be better.
I get it. Get the hardcore fanbase riled up, and word will spread, so the weak before the actual reveal, people are already talking. Then, reveal the game, and people go nuts.
It costs *nothing*, and gets everybody pumped for the actual marketing.
That was my pet theory (assuming the updates ever were anything, but I always had doubts). I mean, there are people still holding out hope, despite the goalposts on reveals constantly shifting. Like, the nonbelievers feel vindicated, but I bet the people clinging to that fake leak (in the sense it was laughably bad photoshop) still do... because this demonstrates Capcom does fake leaks!
Depends. I think I took a bit longer time, but it is short. Six sounds plausible for a blind run.
Of course one game won't damage a franchise that consists of a billion games. All they could "fix" is people's perception of RE3R. And if you're a money-hungry corporation, I'm sure everyone will be willing to rebuy the game if it's more faithful to the original. Lots of money for half the work of making a new game.
I think y'all are misunderstanding that first point, no? It seems to very explicitly state that they would be bad because they would antagonize the fan base and make the marketing, which this is all about, okay catch up instead of going ahead on its own terms.
Together with the slides focusing on the Map mode and especially on how NOT to antagonize the fan base by announcing it too early, this seems to me about them trying to state that leaks would be very bad because they need to control the marketing. The only confusing part there is the "fake" part, but to me this could just as well mean "anything not officially communicated through us". Or this is a warning not to create fake leaks because it would be bad?
Either way, I don't see a was how you can interpret this as them suggesting to actually create fake leaks, considering that they also explicitly state they would be bad.
Together with the slides focusing on the Map mode and especially on how NOT to antagonize the fan base by announcing it too early, this seems to me about them trying to state that leaks would be very bad because they need to control the marketing. The only confusing part there is the "fake" part, but to me this could just as well mean "anything not officially communicated through us". Or this is a warning not to create fake leaks because it would be bad?
Either way, I don't see a was how you can interpret this as them suggesting to actually create fake leaks, considering that they also explicitly state they would be bad.
The game, as it was, took three years to make. I think you're undersellling the cost of making a substantial amount of content for it.
I don't think it's nothing. the build number changes, depots and overall activity on SteamDB for Resident Evil 2 Remake and Resident Evil 3 Remake is almost daily. They're doing something, we simply have no idea what.
From one armchair developer to another, I'm just talking about making a dlc that adds the clock tower scenario back into the game. Maybe a few more cutscenes here and there. No one is asking for a huge overhaul of the game.
Meh, I've seen more than a few people asking for explicitly that. Not just clock tower, Capcom needs to add back the park and dead factory and Brad's OG death and gravedigger and that sales office...
Even strangely enough, Resident Evil 2 Remake has even more activity then RE3 Remake on SteamDB.
RE2R got 16 updates on there today. Check the history.
RE2R got 16 updates on there today. Check the history.
in the remake's current story, you'd have to rewrite the second half of the game in order to include the original's clock tower segment. that means recording new dialogue, designing an entirely new level and doing new mocap. that also means that the remake's hospital segment would have to be reworked with new dialogue and other aspects of the second half would have to be reworked as well.
The funny thing is that adding the Clocktower will not make REmake 3 better, it would at best add a great part to what is otherwise an ordinary game. REmake 3's problem are deep and all around the game, nothing short of a full overhaul would make it come close to the level of quality of the original. And if any DLC is virtually impossible, that is virtually impossibliER.
I misread the marketing focus. That's understandable. I guess i'm more so hurt by the fact that they thought it was ok (from a goodwill standpoint really) knowing the game is going to be short and compromising so much content from the original. My understanding (before these leaks) was that the development was rocky and they had to cut back and then they made the decision to cut planned stuff in the game, but I mean either way the shortness remained.
Is this the first time(if this is real) that we technically confirmed a company having intent to do a fake leak? I've always heard things like this, but never really knew for sure. Pretty ingenious in this day and age.
? How? All they have to do is make Jill take a detour to the Clock Tower before Nemmy's mutation into his dog form, then finish that section with dog Nemmy. That's it. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the original. Half of the game already isn't.
And yes, developers usually make new assets for DLCs.
Why isn't 4chan banned as a source on Era? 95% of the 'leaks' there are completely made up. If developers want to give inside information a year or two after release they go to well known investigative authors and journalists like Jason Schreier, they don't randomly dumb stuff on an anonymous imageboard.
Case in point... (not calling you out Sof, just pointing out that yeah, people upset over RE3R don't want a quick dlc).
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I thought it was the opposite. It went smooth. RE3r is literally the game they always intended to make when the project started.
I'm not asking for it. I'm simply saying that is what it would be needed to truly improve REmake 3. There is a big difference between the two.
I'm assuming there is another source for this leak then
Did you miss the Capcom ransomware attack last year? This isn't a random 4chan text post; i'm just surprised it took so long for people to dig up and share around this one.
I'm sorry of that was my implication with the quotes i was dredging up--I was just pointing out that there's fans who would not be satisfied by just the clock tower.
Apparently the source was the big 2020 Capcom hack.
Oh I forgot about that supringly
As I said before, this was part of the Capcom hack last year. It comes from Capcom themselves, in a way.
Oh, but I would be very much satisfied with just the clock tower, because that's infinitely more than I thought we could ever get.