I believe it was a 60gb, I upgraded it to a 500gb. Should've done a 1tb in retrospect.
So the deinterlacing is really good? Over the years I've seen people criticise it (as well as the upscaling).
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So the deinterlacing is really good? Over the years I've seen people criticise it (as well as the upscaling).
I've posted about it on the VGP forum, but there are other posts and threads having the same issue. The consensus seems to be it's either the display signal chain or the SNES jitter issue or a combination of both.
The main reason I like to take all the audio from the consoles directly to my system is because the OSSC really amplifies the underlying buzz in the Genesis output for some reason. Running the stereo out from the SegaCD directly to my receiver is much cleaner.
I did just remember I do have a SNES SCART cable so I may try moving the SNES to V1 and see if the problem follows it to that input.
My only real complaint with the OSSC is that I think the 256x240opt 4:3 output seems a bit too wide, but I dislike 8:7 so I'm trying to get used to it. The 320x240opt 4:3 output is fine though. Makes the Genesis look amazing!
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My OSSC came and I ended up ordering the HDMI to VGA adapter from Castlemania Games and using a generic VGA cable I had laying around (probably came with a PC monitor).
I'm running into an issue when using the RT2x and HDMI to VGA out & VGA cable, where video flashes and cuts out for longer intervals, displaying for only short intervals like 3 seconds. The issue happens when connected directly to my PC monitor or my OSSC.
Any ideas whether it's the adapter, the cable, or something else?
I'm running into an issue when using the RT2x and HDMI to VGA out & VGA cable, where video flashes and cuts out for longer intervals, displaying for only short intervals like 3 seconds. The issue happens when connected directly to my PC monitor or my OSSC.
Any ideas whether it's the adapter, the cable, or something else?
If it's a A01 or B01 PS3 I recommend changing as much of the thermal paste as possible.
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It's an A01, but I've made the decision not to redo the paste. It seems to stay around 65-70 degrees C.
It's something that I really need to get around to on my launch ps3. Haven't turned it on in like a year now anyway though.
Ah, yes - my current struggle as well is deciding the lower resolution aspect ratio. I can't deal with 256 in 8:7 - it's too tiny.
I have not actually tried 320 in any other modes - is 320 in 8:7 square pixels, as well or is 4:3 just fine - I think I'm in 4:3 right now.
Comaparing that to my OG xbox barely getting up to 58 at most, but I suppose the PS3 just has a higher operating temp. If you hear the fans getting louder on average, it's time to worry.
It does, Cell runs hot. I have the fans running louder at all times via homebrew. Before I did that the fans would indeed ramp up after 5 minutes of being on.
Ah right, well the problem in particular with the PS3, if thermal conductivity is compromised (and we're talking about thermal paste that is ~12 years old now), it won't matter how hard the fans blow.
If I do open it back up to redo the thermal paste I would like to fix the disc drive. But a replacement drive didn't fix it, it still won't accept discs. Would it be one of the cables?
Did you keep the daughter board on the new drive? They come with their own boards that I believe they are married to.
So today I learned that Hyperkin has a Genesis HDMI upscaler. I have really low expectations, but I'm still curious about it. Hopefully there are reviews soon.
A long shot but I'll try anyway.
Does anyone here have experience with a Dell 2007fp 4:3 model?
Those are old TFT monitors with S-Video in (also DVI and VGA) but the max. res. is 1600x1200 as far as I know so I don't know how 240p content or 480p content looks. Wanted to know if someone has any experience with them?
They are pretty cheap nowadays and you can use the, in tate mode. Thinking about getting one.
Does anyone here have experience with a Dell 2007fp 4:3 model?
Those are old TFT monitors with S-Video in (also DVI and VGA) but the max. res. is 1600x1200 as far as I know so I don't know how 240p content or 480p content looks. Wanted to know if someone has any experience with them?
They are pretty cheap nowadays and you can use the, in tate mode. Thinking about getting one.
It's a pain in the butt, especially since odds are the paste under the heat spreader needs changed too.
My PS3 kept overheating, so I changed the thermal paste, only for it to not help. It wasn't until I de-lidded the CPU and GPU and changed that thermal paste under it that I got it working well again.
Great. Think it would be better for me to just box it up and move onto my backup slim next time I want to play some ps3.
Well I never knew he was planning on making an 8x2 version of the component switch but that is absolutely perfect for me. Bought!
The CPU cement paste is hard as hell. I haven't been able to pry mine off. I've seen people use painting knives, is that what you used?
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Yeah, I used painting knives. I went very VERY slowly while doing it. I was paranoid that I'd slip and ruin the whole thing.
Watched a new delid video where someone uses liquid metal on it. I guess the the heat spreaders are actually made of nickel plated copper?
Is it normal for Wii games to have a faint scanline look to them? I especially notice it in Skyward Sword. I'm hoping it isn't an issue with my WIi or equipment.
Other than that, I keep going back and forth between 480p passthru and 480p line2x and can't make up my mind if I like the super sharp look or not.
Other than that, I keep going back and forth between 480p passthru and 480p line2x and can't make up my mind if I like the super sharp look or not.
Vertical or horizontal scanlines? And are they even scanlines or just randomly interspersed throughout the picture? I've never noticed them myself, but maybe others have - also, are you using a Wii or Wii U?
As for the sharpness, have you tried Upsample2x on Line2x? It's the best of both worlds - super clear image, but not ultra sharp, either.
Adding in scanlines to the mix really makes the picture complete with Upsample2x.
Horizontal. An actual Wii.
I have tried upsample2x and it just subtly blurs the picture to my eyes. Doesn't do much for me.
Just tested it out - indeed there is a very slight scanline-esque effect at line2x without any post-processing,, but I didn't see any actual scanlines.
Upsample2x mostly clears the effect for me.
Upsample2x should not make the picture blurrier - it should look as clear as line2x with less aliasing, essentially.
Again, if you are caught between the look of direct 480p vs Line2x, then Upsample should theoretically be the perfect in-between point. It looks spectacular on my setup, at least.
Unfortunately upsample2x doesn't resolve the scanline-esque effect for me, not even 480p passthru does. This seems to just be a thing on Wii, PS2 and Xbox is good.
Just tested another game, RE4 Wii Edition. It also has scanlines, but this time they're vertical! Is this really normal? I sure don't remember seeing them in the past, tho the last time I played my Wii and library was almost a decade ago on a 1080p TV with no external upscaler so maybe they just weren't noticeable on such a setup.
Just looked up high quality videos of RE4 Wii and Skyward Sword on Youtube and yep, sure enough they're there. What in the world... Horizontal lines in SS, vertical in RE4, and none in Mario Galaxy.
Yeah, I think you're right. Apparently as of a few months ago you can remove it with Swiss, but that's only for Gamecube games right, no solution for Wii games? https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...rew-comparisons-show-a-huge-difference.91118/
Gosh, I never noticed dithering on the Wii back in the day...
Yeah I remembered similar effects on some GCN games because of dithering. But yeah, Swiss only boots GCN images. I haven't dove deep into Wii games so I'm not sure if any Homebrew provides similar perks. I should check out the newest Swiss build though. I love how much it keeps developing.
In your all's opinion, which of these setups would produce the best results for PS2 games on my BC PS3?
1. PS3 set to 480i via component to the OSSC in Line4x mode.
2. PS3 set to 480p (PS3 deinterlaces) via component to the OSSC in Line2x mode.
3. PS3 set to 1080p via HDMI sent straight to the TV (PS3 deinterlaces and upscales, no OSSC).
My TV is an LG B7 which scales well, or so I hear.
Previous advice shared here makes it sound like option 2 is the best, but just want to be sure.
1. PS3 set to 480i via component to the OSSC in Line4x mode.
2. PS3 set to 480p (PS3 deinterlaces) via component to the OSSC in Line2x mode.
3. PS3 set to 1080p via HDMI sent straight to the TV (PS3 deinterlaces and upscales, no OSSC).
My TV is an LG B7 which scales well, or so I hear.
Previous advice shared here makes it sound like option 2 is the best, but just want to be sure.
2 gives you motion adaptive deinterlace + integer scaling up to 960
That would be best, though for some reason, it never occurred to me to test that out before myself.
That would be best, though for some reason, it never occurred to me to test that out before myself.
If PS3 did nearest neighbor integer or multiplication like the OSSC it'd be fine. Unfortunately, I think it only does interpolation for games.
It's weird, because PS3 does actually have a line doubling mode, but just for movies.
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option 1 would be best for games that don't support progressive scan, otherwise option 2.
also try turning on the smoothing option, it helps a little with jagged edges.
but of course if possible i'd recommend to use a ps2 with rgb cables instead.
Why use RGB Scart instead of component? It's my understanding that the difference in quality is pretty much indistinguishable, with the exception of component on PS2 having video noise which I imagine doesn't exist on PS3.
I was mostly replying to the suggestion by rogue nes that you get a PS2 with RGB cables. It's something PS3 can do too, so that's kind of unnecessary.
For the record though: Component, though you won't mostly notice in real time (especially if you're unaware of its peculiarities), does have artifacts and loss characteristic of both the compression and reconversion from/to RGB.
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I don't know anything at all, yeah. I'm just going off the My Life in Gaming video where they noted no real difference between RGB and component, with the exception of the actual PS2 console.
Video noise with component exists on PS3 as well, it just depends on the quality of the cable, if yours doesn't have noise then it's fine.
I don't notice any. My component cables are the ones with the black metal connectors and braided sleeves that have no branding on them. I bought them loose at GameStop years ago, but the My Life in Gaming video showed a picture of them and says they're official Sony cables.
To clarify: I wasn't talking about "video noise" inherent to either PS3 or PS2. I was talking about the typical component standard of compression.
However, anecdotally from my own testing, I can say that PS2 does have a noisier output in component than PS3 that [edit]
Actually it can be, to some extent, a result of possibly different filters/algorithms in the conversion to/from component between PS3 and PS2. Sorry for my edit, it's been a while since I've made these comparisons and google research.
However, anecdotally from my own testing, I can say that PS2 does have a noisier output in component than PS3 that [edit]
Actually it can be, to some extent, a result of possibly different filters/algorithms in the conversion to/from component between PS3 and PS2. Sorry for my edit, it's been a while since I've made these comparisons and google research.
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As similar as they are I'd much prefer RGB Euroscart just for the connector itself :P
It's okay. There's no objective best way to set things up for everyone and I like sharing info. :)
There's a 32" FV310 about an hour away from me. Ive read a lot of hype about these tvs about them being the best consumer grade CRTs. Would it be worth the drive?
I would do it. Been looking for over a year without seeing any come up for sale near me.