Definitely an interesting look on the GameForce Chi but seems to be a decent device. Landscape design with 640x480 res.
this thing is hilarious
i want it
Definitely an interesting look on the GameForce Chi but seems to be a decent device. Landscape design with 640x480 res.
Ahhhhhh yes, that's another game I was getting a ton of slowdown and wondering why my device was struggling.There are quite a few SNES games, especially from early on, that are notorious for their slowdown like Gradius 3 for example.
Ahhhhhh yes, that's another game I was getting a ton of slowdown and wondering why my device was struggling.
I also prefer 351ELEC, but I'd like to clarify one thing. Both ArkOS and Retro Arena are also still in active development for the 351V as well. One of them just got an update on the same day as the latest 351ELEC build the other day, actually.351Elec gets my vote. It's the only one still being supported too as it just got an update yesterday.
Protip: Actual hardware/emulation failing to run a game at its intended full speed will usually be accompanied with choppy audio as it drops frames. That's an easy way to differentiate it from normal slowdown that was present in the game on original hardware.Ahhhhhh yes, that's another game I was getting a ton of slowdown and wondering why my device was struggling.
Ahhhhhh yes, that's another game I was getting a ton of slowdown and wondering why my device was struggling.
Is anyone aware of any small tablets that might work with the X2? I just got mine yesterday and it seems great so far. The only issue being that most phones seem to be around 20:9 these days. I figured I would just get a bigger phone eventually, but surprisingly my Pixel 5 isn't significantly smaller than most larger phones (by width anyway)For anyone that's interested in a more powerful 'portable' device. I got a Poco X3 pro 8gb ram/256 gb from aliexpress and a game sir X2 2021 USB c and I am marvelled at both. Poco can play basically any game I throw at it. And the gamepad surprised me immensely. It's super hight quality. You can even charge the phone while playing!
Been playing viewtiful joe for a while. This telescopic gamepad really impressed me.
I will dump twin snakes and try later.
Then, as a newbie that wants reasonable power, build quality and the lesser the hassle the better, Anbernic or GPD XD?
GPD XD+ is able to run Dreamcast, DS, and PSP much better than the Anbernic RG351 devices with the RK3326 chipset. The problem with Android devices is they are not designed for the specific task of gameplay so you need to setup your emulators, launcher, frontends yourself which might be more trouble than its worth.
With any of the Anbernic devices, or any of the RK3326 devices for that matter, you install a firmware easily and just put your game roms in the respective folders. Downloading metadata such as images and small videos for the emulationstation frontend is relatively straightforward. It just works really. The EmuELEC firmware is very beginner friendly with everything setup for you and if you want to tweak and do advanced stuff it's still available for you.
I highly recommend any of the Anbernic devices. Most people are very happy with the build quality and they have good developer support. You won't get the best Dreamcast, PSP, or DS emulation compared to the XD but it's a better experience overall for the systems it does emulate imo.
Retro Game Corp is a fantastic channel that covers these devices, here's a good video with a breakdown of some of the RK3326 devices:
The problem with trying to use a tablet with the GameSir X2 2021 d-pad model is that it says it stretches a maximum of 173mm wide, and the only 16:10 android tablets that would be not-too-wide for that would be 7" and under. However there are, as far as I can tell, no 7" android tablets with USB-C connectors. So you're stuck with phones.Is anyone aware of any small tablets that might work with the X2? I just got mine yesterday and it seems great so far. The only issue being that most phones seem to be around 20:9 these days. I figured I would just get a bigger phone eventually, but surprisingly my Pixel 5 isn't significantly smaller than most larger phones (by width anyway)
Yeah, I was worried about that. Big problem I'm noticing is that it seems like just about every tablet has massive chins which make them much too large. The only devices that seem to be better are the folding phones. Good thing they're cheap...The problem with trying to use a tablet with the GameSir X2 2021 d-pad model is that it says it stretches a maximum of 173mm wide, and the only 16:10 android tablets that would be not-too-wide for that would be 7" and under. However there are, as far as I can tell, no 7" android tablets with USB-C connectors. So you're stuck with phones.
This was part of the console wars?? Wow!As someone who lived through this being a (semi) Big Deal in the console wars when it happened, I am enjoying seeing people seemingly encounter this for the first time :-)
Oh yeah
Thought I would finally give this a shot. I downloaded your presets but have no idea where to put them or what to do with them. There's no "shaders" folder on either of the memory cards inserted into the 351V and making one that contains your preset files doesn't do anything either. There's a ton of other shaders and overlays to choose from within 351Elec and Retropi, so I'm missing something here that must be obvious to everyone else. Thanks for the effort regardless though.So I went a little deeper in my quest to make my retro games look as close to perfect (for my preferences) as I could on my RG351V, and I thought I'd share the fruits of my labor.
You can download my pre-configured shader presets and overlay here.
If you want a near-perfect, high-end CRT look with very light scanlines and an only slightly softened image with no pixel shimmering, then do this:
And then I also included my GB/GBC/GBA shader presets for good measure in the ZIP file. Those are labeled for which system they're meant for, so simply apply them for those systems and save as the Content Directory Preset afterward to make them stick. They are just the lcd3x shader customized slightly to match Retro Game Corps' recommended parameter changes. Feel free to use these with or without integer scaling for GB/GBC, whereas for GBA you'd want to leave integer scaling off on the RG351V.
- Set your aspect ratio to 4:3 and turn off integer scaling.
- Apply the gamma-smooth shader preset from the ZIP file.
- This applies a two-pass shader step.
- The first uses the image-adjustment shader to correct the target gamma to 2.4 while leaving the monitor gamma at 2.2 This reinstates the gamma curve that these retro games (consoles and arcades) were all made for, which makes a big difference on this device. Without this step colors are pretty inaccurate and washed out compared to how the games looked on original hardware + a CRT.
- The second pass is just the quilez interpolation shader, which is a low-overhead shader that eliminates all pixel wobble/shimmer while very slightly softening the image (a little more than sharp-bilinear-2x-prescale).
- Set the overlay that I included in the ZIP and make sure to switch off the "Disable when controller is connected" toggle that is on by default in 351ELEC.
- You can leave this at the default 0.15 opacity (which is what I've done), or bump it up slightly for more pronounced scanlines. I wouldn't recommend going over 0.25 as it will overly darken the image IMO.
If anyone ends up using this, let me know what you think. I'm a bit obsessive when it comes to perfecting the display of retro games via emulation devices, and to my taste this looks damn near perfect. I can finally stop tinkering now... maybe.
UPDATE: I added another shader preset to the ZIP file called gamma-sharp. This is the same as gamma-smooth but sharper, so give that one a shot if you find gamma-smooth to be a touch too soft for your liking. Combine this with the scanline overlay at 0.20 opacity for my recommended best look.
Oh yeah
a lot of snes games have slowdown, especially launch ones. Sega fans did not hesitate to rub that in snes fans faces lol
Sounds a lot like how it happened for me just a few months back. Knew about them, watched the thread very rarely and then for whatever reason, finally paid attention when the RG351V came out. I became insanely absorbed into all things about it and watched a lot of RetroGameCorps videos, joined various reddit subs and of course started chatting in here. Also turned a few friends onto these devices, and they all love them. It's a great time to get into them.It's crazy how I went from not even looking at these, to ordering one, to watching YouTube vids over and over between ArkOK and Elec351, shaders, ROM's, etc. The thirst is real.
Got my tracking # from keepretro! For the US, any ideas on how long it'll take to hit my doorstep in the US?
Ha, I figured as much.
Ha, I figured as much.
Decided I'm going with 351Elec for the OS. First game I'm playing is Super Metroid, as I've never beaten it.
Great write up, and very close to my own experience.So I got my RP2 (in Indigo) and it's been quite the journey but with a happy conclusion.
I love the unit itself, it looks awesome and is built very nicely. The buttons are a tad stiffer than I'd like, but I suspect that will involve as it's broken in a little more.
Software-wise, things were initially a little painful and it has taken some time to get it up and running. Getting Android updated to 8.1 was a bit of a pain though it didn't take too long in the end. Android as a general interface is a blessing and a curse for this thing...it gives it stunning variety in terms of what can be installed but it's obvious that Android is not fully optimised for a controller and I have found myself switching between gamepad and mouse modes far too often. I also found that many of the pre-installed apps are not great. As to your point, input lag for Snes games using the pre-installed Snes core was HORRENDOUS. I'm not super sensitive to input lag most of the time and can tolerate a little bit, but it was glaringly obvious that the lag was through the roof when playing Super Mario World.
However, a tip-off on reddit recommended installing Snes9x Ex from here and it's fantastic and a huge improvement. There's still a little lag, but it's no more or less than I've seen on other handheld consoles.
I'm using Mupen for N64, My Boy! for GBA, Drastic for DS and the standard gambette core for GBC and all are working really well. Was playing Pokemon White for the first time in ages earlier and having a blast. Played a bit of Ocarina of Time too and it had occasional stutters but was otherwise rock solid.
The final piece of the puzzle was getting Dig set up. It's an excellent gaming front end and I now have all my games in there, with box art and the games are now configured to directly open with their associated emulators. It's painless and can all be done in gamepad mode. Lots of cool themes are available for it too.
Been doing a lot of tinkering as I said, and reading up on customisation tips on reddit, but now it's all setup, I'm absolutely loving it! Gonna experiment with some PSX games at some point, when I find where my game rips are currently located. Might also try switching to the LineageOS build for RP2 as well, which I've heard cuts a lot of overhead.
Yeah, its certainly an oddity in some ways, though I do appreciate and understand the approach Retroid went with.Great write up, and very close to my own experience.
On this thread I kept banging on about getting the older version of Snes9x from that link as it does help. And I am running pretty much the same set up (My Boy, Drastic and only a few systems in Retroarch like GBC). I also found PS1 games to be a great sweet spot for the machine, so you are in for some fun once you find your rips.
The RP2 is a weird machine, it takes a lot of work to get up and running and android really is a big negative and positive at the same time.
I haven't used my RP2 in ages so I'm fairly out of the loop. I was wondering do you think it was worth setting up 8.1?
I assume you lost all your set ups and settings? Just as I have a good setup going but interested about getting back in tinkering if it helps.
I see that Amazon has RG351Vs listed. Are these good units typically, or is it better buying from other sources? Sorry if this has been answered before.
If it is shipping from China I see no point in not ordering it from the source. Anbernic has official stores on Aliexpress and other places.I see that Amazon has RG351Vs listed. Are these good units typically, or is it better buying from other sources? Sorry if this has been answered before.
I got mine from Amazon for $120 but it arrived within 2 days. Paid a slight premium but worth it not to wait weeks. Seemed perfectly fine but there are a lot of third party sellers on there.I see that Amazon has RG351Vs listed. Are these good units typically, or is it better buying from other sources? Sorry if this has been answered before.
Thanks for the reply.Yeah, its certainly an oddity in some ways, though I do appreciate and understand the approach Retroid went with.
I was pleasantly surprised with the DS emulation though it's hit and miss by nature of the machine itself. Emulation quality is fine, but while some games like Pokemon HeartGold/White are manageable by using a button to swap between screens, some like Phantom Hourglass are pretty much unplayable without a touchscreen. I really hope they build a touchscreen into the Pocket 3, it would be a massive boost for an Android device like this and would make the user experience exponentially better.
In terms of upgrading to 8.1, it was the first thing I did when buying this device so I can't comment on how much gets lost in the transition, though I know guides out there explain how to back things up.
It's probably more tinkering cause of android, but I love the gpd xd+. Super solid emulation up to Dreamcast and DS, most psp works great, and with enough messing around I can get some GameCube to work (pretty much full speed double dash and melee)Then, as a newbie that wants reasonable power, build quality and the lesser the hassle the better, Anbernic or GPD XD?
I grabbed an R351p and have been messing around with it. I got a new 128GB card and put on the new 351ELEC. I didn't get the wifi dongle. Is it worth it to grab a cheap one? I don't have DS emulation working without it but it sounds like it's not that great anyway. Any suggestions?
I saw that video. I might be able to do it but I haven't soldered in years and I'd probably screw it up. I see the wifi dongles going for cheap so I might just buy one of those instead of risking a bad solder.are you any good with soldering? from this vid it looks pretty simple to install a wifi chip
RG351P - Howto install an internal WiFi module guide (DIY)
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Depends how often you'll use the wifi. For me, I'd do the dongle because I don't do the achievements and rarely need to go online.I saw that video. I might be able to do it but I haven't soldered in years and I'd probably screw it up. I see the wifi dongles going for cheap so I might just buy one of those instead of risking a bad solder.
Looking to dive in on one of these.
Im looking at the 351v due to the screen. Does it get uncomfortable to hold after awhile?
I have fat sausage fingers, and I find it fairly comfortable to hold. Just need to find the right position. Some people prefer the horizontal form factor for comfort, but I think the V is substantial enough so my hands have something meaty to grab.
what's the simplest route to play let's say GBA games and PSOne games? Grab one of these and be done with it, or mod my 3DS for GBA, and vita for psone?