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Rian Johnson (The Last Jedi) Details His Reasons for Pushing the Saga Forward
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I dunno how getting rid of a female villain pushes anything forward, considering the films have been scant on that.
Eh...I understand he is saying but still he was the middle movie, it wasn't his place to do what he did, save that shit for the last movie.
Still looking forward to what he does with his own films. Like in his own sandbox. In a galaxy far far away from characters I know.
Still looking forward to what he does with his own films. Like in his own sandbox. In a galaxy far far away from characters I know.
Aside from wiping out almost all the Resistance including Admiral Ackbar, the First Order's biggest fleet, killing Luke, saying Rey's backstory was nothing, killing Snoke...
Yeah, not much forward momentum at all.
Should've closed down the thread after these posts. Nothing more needs to be said.
I'd imagine it would feel that way when TFA spent its entire runtime being an Ep.4 clone.
So what he said is invalid because he killed the new Boba Fett?
The Resistance was already incredibly small going into the movie. Rey as a character hasn't actually progressed that much. Luke spends the entire movie being grouchy and at the end only returns to what he was in Episode 6. Killing Snoke doesn't mean much since Snoke wasn't much to begin with.
Unfortunately because so many fans just want sentimental nostalgia-bait fan service sequels forever more Episode IX is probably just going to undo a lot of what Johnson did. I don't need Rey to be related to someone. Star Wars is incestuous (heh) enough as it is.
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This is why I'm looking forward to his new SW saga. Goddamn JJ was in love with the box the OT outlined. He jumped snugly into it and tightened all around, not at all interested in even looking outside the box.
This is why I'm looking forward to his new SW saga. Goddamn JJ was in love with the box the OT outlined. He jumped snugly into it and tightened all around, not at all interested in even looking outside the box.
Luke is very different than he was at the end of episode 6. Luke in Returns was all about the physical confrontation. While in Last Jedi he had grown past that by learning from Returns and in flashbacks that a physical fight is not going to be the way he resolves these huge hurdles.
"You should not put yourself into a box based on what past films did because they didn't do that either."
"Man, fuck this guy! What an ego!"
Like, how can you even begin to find an issue with what he said? There's nothing controversial there.
Ya'll on that bitch eating crackers shit.
He pushed me forward into watching more of his movies.
Being an Ep.4 Clone and having the typical JJAbrams "here's a bunch of interesting plot hooks I don't have any plans for"
This.
Everytime I think of second entries, it bugs me how much Rian Johnson couldn't outdo Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. As far as characters go.
The racist bots had more personality than most of the cast. The scene with John Leguizamo [sp?] seeing the one Transformers' balls is more well written than...most of the movie.
Moving forward does not have to mean "straight into a tree and taking the franchise with it".
Push us so far forward we went back in time to the beginning of the franchise.
I hope Rian can do some cool stuff when he isn't tied to established stories and characters. He had some neat ideas in TLJ but I didn't like how they fit into the overarching narrative, but that's mainly because Disney didn't go into 7, 8, and 9 with an idea of how the entire trilogy would play out, they worked on one story at a time. Now that Johnson has control over the beginning, middle, and end I think he can do Star Wars justice.
I hope Rian can do some cool stuff when he isn't tied to established stories and characters. He had some neat ideas in TLJ but I didn't like how they fit into the overarching narrative, but that's mainly because Disney didn't go into 7, 8, and 9 with an idea of how the entire trilogy would play out, they worked on one story at a time. Now that Johnson has control over the beginning, middle, and end I think he can do Star Wars justice.
This doesn't make sense.
Star Wars practically invented (not really) the dark, subversive, plot twist middle movie .
What the hell dis he even move forward? TLJ accomplishes the least in terms of moving they overall plot forward. He just killed a bunch of people and tried hard to subvert expectations.
rey goes from looking outward to looking inward. her arc in the last jedi is a pretty big deal for her character given that she's always pinned her hopes on others, her parents coming back, her force sensitivity being tied to her lineage, looking to han, looking to luke, shit even looking to kylo. the movie ends with her looking to herself.
like or dislike that's an incredibly odd point to try and make
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Weird..What pissed me off the most about TLJ is that the chemistry the NEW characters had in TFA went straight down the toilet in TLJ. There were a lot of problems I had with TLJ, but this was the biggest one for me and a huge turn off. I know I'm not alone in this. The whole argument about everyone who hated TLJ because "nostalgia" is kind of weak. It was just a shit movie really. IMO of course! :)
Yes I agree with that. Poe, Finn, Luke, Rey, Rose, all suffered from his poor writing.
How in gen world does a journalist not understand the concept of changing equilibriums in storytelling?
You're saying this with the films following Empire Strikes Back?
I mean if movies were only about the world-building elements, then yes. But that's not what movies solely are.
Like this is my stance. ESB is about the characters and barely any Rebellion, Empire or tertiary characters are developed outside of the first 30 minutes. But yet, ESB is regarded as the best film in the trilogy.
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Darth Vader is an iconic villain with tons of memorable lines but he's a cartoon compared to Ren who's more of a character study, and there was some effort to approach the characterization of Luke similarly in TLJ. Stuff like that, the casting choices and the visuals are all pretty inspired but I'd want to see those things pushed further in his trilogy. If he has the chops to write a GRRM-esque take on the Star Wars universe, where almost every character is a character study, genuinely shocking and surprising deaths, layers and layers of political and social allegory, and unpredictable storytelling, I'm in.
This is straight up one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site and perhaps across the entire internet. What about this movie makes people lose their minds is beyond me, but perhaps some of you never had them.
My freelance profession isn't relevant to the conversation we are having, but go off.
Oh god I forgot how he killed Ackbar off screen, I mean for fucks sake.
LOL spelling ain't the issue here, completely different person.
She wasn't even a villain. I think the real shame is that she did nothing to begin with.