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tabris

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Oct 27, 2017
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I rather have a nice view than privacy. People in these buildings have seen me naked pretty sure:

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Weebos

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would get the complaints if the museum viewing platform was a recent development, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

If I were buying a condo it's something I would like to know ahead of time, might have been a scummy move to not notify the buyers.

Regardless, blinds solve this particular issue, but they also ruin the reason for buying such a condo in the first place.
 

Goldenroad

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If they can afford those condo's, they can afford to move. Problem solved.
 

Izzard

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If they can afford those condo's, they can afford to move. Problem solved.

This is my thought too. Does seem to be a high degree of hate in this thread due to them having money though, which is a bit weird. I'm sure having a viewing platform built across the road from you isn't something most people would want, regardless of how much money they have.
 

Pizza Dog

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Oct 25, 2017
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Meh. This is so unbelievably common in apartment and condo blocks in big cities, all having huge views of the other buildings, that I can't muster any sympathy.

Like, do they also think the people in other condos that see that building should look away or something? it's nonsense.
I'm not aware of anything else like this in other big cities actually - yes it's common for a building to look across at another building, but it's less common for a very popular museum and tourist attraction (let alone in a major world capital) to put up a viewing platform which is situated right next to a block of flats. Yes, the people should have known that it was getting built when they bought their flats, but you can't argue that the result is exactly the same as if you can look into your neighbours' windows from your flat. This is specifically designed for thousands of tourists a day to come and look out from, and there's nothing on that side of the building worth looking at other than directly into those people's flats.
 

Zoe

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Oct 25, 2017
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The only thing about privacy tint is it doesn't really work if your lights are on.

Surely they could afford motorized shades though.
 

citrusred

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Oct 28, 2017
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This is my thought too. Does seem to be a high degree of hate in this thread due to them having money though, which is a bit weird. I'm sure having a viewing platform built across the road from you isn't something most people would want, regardless of how much money they have.
It's not weird to not care about or even hate rich people. What made you think that it was. They have solutions to their problem, but they'd rather bother other people instead.
 

bionic77

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is getting out of hand.

We need to do something about this crisis we have of poors looking at rich people.
 

Paquete_PT

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have to admit that "spying" those apartments was probably the most fun I've had at Tate (seriously, the fixed exhibit is not good). I have this great shot of a tourist standing by a sign on the wall saying "please respect our neighbors' privacy" with a pair of binoculars on his hands and staring for minutes at the windows.
 

citrusred

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That's such a strange request, lol. If you're happy hating then you go right ahead and carry on I guess. It's not a normal reaction though. Maybe ask yourself why you'd hate someone just in the basis of their being rich?
So you can't say why you defend people who can easily solve their own problems but chose not to? I don't think its weird to be condescending and dismissive towards people who could put up some blinds but instead would rather pursue a legal challenge through to the high court against a public institution.
 
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Syriel

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It's more that the OP's phrasing implies it's residents of a specific nationality causing the issues, not wealthy, entitled people in general.

I'll be honest, I didn't even think about that. Was just the assumption that it's Brits because it's in London. Kind of like I'd default to Americans for SF or NYC.

It's a bad design. But that's what curtains are for. I'm glad the court ruled against it.

Mine has some kind of tint that only affects those looking in.

I find it wierd that the developers for these didn't do the same, considering they're probably with a a lot more expensive.

The big "open" rooms with full windows on two sides weren't sold as "rooms" but were meant as "indoor patios" given London's seasonal weather patterns. It's just that buyers opted to use them as living rooms.

It's like complaining of loud noise after buying a house next to a pub, just why?

This happened at my apartment building in SF.

"The club across the street is TOO NOISY! The parking lot next door fills up at night!"
"Um, both were there well before this apartment building was built."

I think the viewing platform was opened some time after this building went up and people moved in.

The viewing area doesn't.

I agree the museum is important, but the viewing platform isn't necessary for the museum to function. I'm not arguing that the platform be closed down, but it's not hard to understand being annoyed if you lived in those apartments and then someone built a viewing platform right next to it so people would be staring into your flats all day every day. It's arguably one of the features of the platform, as there's nothing in that direction to look at other than flats and offices. The pictures don't do justice to how close you are to those flats too.

Approval for the platform and approval to build the condos was granted at about the same time.

This is not a case of people buying condos, and then the museum suddenly installing a platform. Buyers would have known about the platform. They either ignored it, or didn't think it would be popular, when they decided to buy. And the Tate has made efforts to be a good neighbor (limiting viewing hours), but the Tate serves the public.

At a certain point it's like "you knew about this when you bought your condo, stop complaining about it now." That's pretty much the angle the Judge took. He even said that they could install privacy film (among other options) on their condo windows to solve the issue.

I rather have a nice view than privacy. People in these buildings have seen me naked pretty sure:

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Your place is always so clean in photos, it looks like a model unit. This is max level minimalism that would make Marie Kondo proud.

Are we sure that tabris is actually a real person? ;)
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't have much sympathy, but I went up there a couple of weeks after the Tate extension opened, and yeah you can see right in people's living rooms.
 

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So privacy was not a consideration when purchasing the apartments? Too fucking bad, then.

Fuck, privacy has always been a major consideration of mine when renting and buying property.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Forget high-rises, I'm amazed at the number of people moving into these new three- to five-story apartments in Brooklyn that just don't get the concept of blinds.
 
Dec 12, 2017
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That's pretty bad actually. When the people bought their condos did they know the Tate was going to have an observation deck right across the street? Just because the plan was public doesn't mean the buyers knew. I mean who even checks for something like that? The onus would be on the realtors to fully disclose that beforehand.

If I bought one of those places without realizing this then I would be fucking pissed too. Not to the point of demanding they close the observation deck, but someone needs to pay for privacy screens.
No, it's actually on the buyers/renters to do their due diligence before closing on a property. My apartment has floor to ceiling windows with a good view of Manhattan, but me and my girlfriend literally researched the DOB database to see if there would be any future construction that could potentially block it before we signed the lease.
 
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Izzard

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So you can't say why you defend people who can easily solve their own problems but chose not to? I don't think its weird to be condescending and dismissive towards people who could put up some blinds but instead would rather pursue a legal challenge through to the high court against a public institution.

I didn't defend them though...

I just find it strange to just dismiss people because they happen to be rich. Post number 5 sums it up.
 

Izzard

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Why not? They have simple solutions to their problems that most regular people could manage easily.

It's a shame that the residents find themselves in this situation, but at least they can solve it quite easily themselves.

Fucking rich people. Fuck them.

I'll always opt for the first choice.
 

Chasex

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Oct 29, 2017
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I didn't defend them though...

I just find it strange to just dismiss people because they happen to be rich. Post number 5 sums it up.

This forum is dripping with resentment for "the rich". Paradoxically nobody can seem to agree on what rich actually means either.

But yeah, the idea seems to be that people with money are at an immediate moral disadvantage, and as long as you punch up you are on the right side of the situation, logic be damned.
 

Frodo

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Oct 27, 2017
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Here's the view from the Tate gallery:

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While this is a really petty thing to complain about (especially demanding Tate to rectify a problem they didn't even cause), whoever designed those apartment buildings probably should have paid more attention to the area since I'm pretty sure these apartments were built around the time the Tate Modern was drawing up plans for the extension. Actually, I really don't understand why you would build apartments with such revealing windows anyway, especially in an area with a number of active developments under construction.

Those areas are not even meant to be living space, they were meant to be "winter gardens". The actual living areas of those flats isn't visible.


I didn't defend them though...

I just find it strange to just dismiss people because they happen to be rich. Post number 5 sums it up.


LOL! Dismissing people because they are rich. We are dismissing people because they chose not to buy a blind. FUCK ALL OF THEM. Wasting our courts time and resources when they could have solve it themselves, but hey, let's try and close a whole public gallery, because we don't want poor people looking in our floor to ceiling windows.
 

Izzard

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Those areas are not even meant to be living space, they were meant to be "winter gardens". The actual living areas of those flats isn't visible.





LOL! Dismissing people because they are rich. We are dismissing people because they chose not to buy a blind. FUCK ALL OF THEM. Wasting our courts time and resources when they could have solve it themselves, but hey, let's try and close a whole public gallery, because we don't want poor people looking in our floor to ceiling windows.

Fucking rich people...

Poor people looking in? Shit gets more like a Dickens novel.
 
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Qvoth

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Oct 26, 2017
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i never understood the appeal of a view, especially if it's just a downtown view
 

Zaph

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is my thought too. Does seem to be a high degree of hate in this thread due to them having money though, which is a bit weird. I'm sure having a viewing platform built across the road from you isn't something most people would want, regardless of how much money they have.
If someone is able to afford an expensive home, good for them. But these people are throwing their money around hoping to close a free, public installation at a renowned gallery that had planning permission before they bought their homes.

Shit like this is exactly why people hate the rich - using their money to bully something they want after the fact. They probably knew they would lose the case, but had no problem wasting the court's time (taxpayer funded), the council's time (taxpayer funded) and the Tate's time (taxpayer/patron funded).
 

Kaim Argonar

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Dec 8, 2017
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If they have so much money they could have floor to ceiling electric inked windows. Perfectly clear, give your order / flip a switch and they're tinted.

I love floor to ceiling windows. But I have no shame and I'd be naked around the house anyway.

I rather have a nice view than privacy. People in these buildings have seen me naked pretty sure:

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You have a beautiful place.
 

Catshade

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Oct 26, 2017
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If I were one of those rich people, I'd blast hardcore porn 24/7 from that window. Your move, Tate museum.
 

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I've seen those flats when I went to the take modern. They are definitely gold fish bowls and you can see into them.

Maybe some rich people like showing off. Maybe others like privacy.

But it was pretty obvious you won't get privacy. I'm better loads brought them without seeing them first