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Need an update of this one:
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she looks like a frog
 

AstronaughtE

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Not crazy about his kingdom hearts hair, but I'm killer excited for this game. I hope we get a release date soon, and that it doesn't slide to next year.
 

alpha

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That's not why Squall acts detached. He has a severe abandonment complex and is extremely afraid of losing people he cares about, so he tries to minimize close connections.

This. I wonder if some of the people who complain about how Squall acts actually played FF8. It's a defense mechanism to push people away, and it's also why Rinoa's persistence eventually allowed her to break through it.
 

skeezx

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I agree, his hair looks just so different.

I don't understand why they changed him so much. He even looks like his dissidia model and that looking so off.

The others are looking almost the same just better.

i grew up thinking Squall was, like, 28 or something

never cared for his revisions, going all the way back to KH1. but this is just way more fitting (i guess, i'll have to play the remaster to say definitively)
 

DOBERMAN INC

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Ah,so they decided to grab a generic face from the anime bin this time around.
I still can't wait to replay it but come on, try to maintain some semblance of originality.
 

DiipuSurotu

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Back then they were restrained by the technical limitations of the console, this here is now Nomura's true vision for the characters
 

SolVanderlyn

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Squall was always supposed to be River Phoenix run through a J-Pop factory.

I like his old hair more though, it seemed "rougher," and not just because of the graphical limitations
 

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Yes, Quistis mistakes her sisterly feelings for love and that's why she goes after Squall. She realizes she never actually was attracted to him later.

That's not why Squall acts detached. He has a severe abandonment complex and is extremely afraid of losing people he cares about, so he tries to minimize close connections.


Quistis abused her power as teacher to try and seduce Squall. He was right to be disgusted by that.

Squall's personality is a huge localization mistake. He does blow people off, but he has like 9 different ways he does it that fit his actual personality and character better as well as the individual situations. The localization team decided to merge all of them into a single catchphrase of "whatever". Using whatever for every situation makes him come across as an uncaring asshole.

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Legends of Localization: Squall’s “Whatever” Line in Japanese Final Fantasy VIII

The English version of Final Fantasy VIII is filled with the phrase "whatever". What was the Japanese version like?

I can't believe this teacher -> whatever
No big deal -> whatever
Well, excuse me -> whatever
Man, you're annoying -> whatever
Sure, I guess -> whatever
Get off my case / leave me alone -> whatever
Oh, geez -> whatever
Doesn't matter -> whatever
I don't care -> whatever
Wait, he actually says "whatever" all the time on the English translation? I always thought there must have been something terribly wrong with the English translation since the Spanish one was very different, this would confirm it. What a shame.
 

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I mean, at the start of their respective game:
-Squall is a 17-year-old military student who barely touched a GF in his life
-Cloud is a 21-year-old genetically-enhanced infantryman who took out Sephiroth in Nibelheim...
Not even remotely true. The only party member where this is true is Selphie (and Rinoa I guess?).
 

amoy

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I mean, at the start of their respective game:
-Squall is a 17-year-old military student who barely touched a GF in his life
-Cloud is a 21-year-old genetically-enhanced infantryman who took out Sephiroth in Nibelheim...

Should have done more PT I guess.

Dang, those old renders were really misleading, thought Squall was older.

*Disclaimer: I have never played VII or VIII
 

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It's true. Dude forgets to take his only GF to his first mission and his teacher has to remind him how they work like he's unfamiliar with them.
Have you really played the game? The reason all the kids in the orphanage forget they were together is due to the extended use they've made of GFs (the only exception being Selphie). So no, he's not unfamiliar with them by any means.

He has 2 GF as soon as you start the game (Quetzalcoalt and Shiva), you just need to check your computer in the class to get them. The only reason Quistis reminds him how they work is for gameplay purposes, in fact from what I remember you can skip most of the Quistis tutorials with a dialog option.
 

RagnarokX

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Have you really played the game? The reason all the kids in the orphanage forget they were together is due to the extended use they've made of GFs (the only exception being Selphie). So no, he's not unfamiliar with them by any means.

He has 2 GF as soon as you start the game (Quetzalcoalt and Shiva), you just need to check your computer in the class to get them. The only reason Quistis reminds him how they work is for gameplay purposes, in fact from what I remember you can skip most of the Quistis tutorials with a dialog option.
Irvine is the only one that didn't have his memory wiped, not Selphie, because Galbadia doesn't use GFs. It's why he chokes on the assassination mission.
 
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Wazzy

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Forgot about that. That's true, but Selphie also remembers since she only started using GFs after moving to Balamb from what I remember.
Nah she says that she junctioned a GF when she was younger and thinks that is the reason she forgot.

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"I found a GF inside one of the monsters I defeated... I junctioned that GF for a while. So I have experience with GF, too."
 

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If they don't use the background tech than it doesn't even matter.
 

Kain

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1- His new hair looks horrendous
2- Are there any pics of my boy Seifer with the HD assets?
 

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Nah she says that she junctioned a GF when she was younger and thinks that is the reason she forgot.

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"I found a GF inside one of the monsters I defeated... I junctioned that GF for a while. So I have experience with GF, too."
Oops! I went to rewatch that scene and yeah you're right. For some reason some of the lines Irvine says in that scene I remembered them as Selphie's, weird.
 

DiipuSurotu

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That's not the issue. Squall feels like she's abusing her position with her constant advances on him. She basically sexually harasses him.

At the very start of the game escorting Squall from the infirmary:

Quistis: "Squall. Is there something on your mind?"

Squall: "Not really."

Quistis: "Not really. Hahaha!"

Squall: "What's so funny?"

Quistis: "Funny? No, no, it's not that! I'm just happy. I feel like I'm finally beginning to understand my student a little. That's all."

Squall: "I'm more complex than you think."

Quistis: "Then tell me. Tell me more about yourself."

Squall: "It's none of your..."

Quistis: "...Business!"


At the fire cave:

Quistis: "You now, the boys often choke on this test when I come with them. I guess my charm makes them nervous."

Squall: (...Whatever.) JP: "(I can't believe this teacher)"

Quistis: "I'm just kidding! Trying to keep you relaxed, that's all."


After Squall dances with Rinoa at the graduation ceremony:

Quistis: "You really are an excellent student. Even that dance was perfect."

Squall: "Thank you."

[Quistis just stands there.]

Squall: "Yes?"

Quistis: "So you'll dance with someone you don't even know, but you can't even stand being around me?"

Squall: "...Whatever (JP: Sorry or Well, excuse me). You're an instructor, and I'm your student. It's kind of awkward when you don't say anything."

Quistis: "That's true. I was like that myself. ...Oh, I completely forgot. I wonder what's to be come of me? I've come to give you an order. You
and I are to go to the 'secret area'. It's where students secretly meet up and talk after curfew. It's inside the [training center]."

Squall: "What do you want to do there? Are we going to tell everyone they're violating curfew? If that's the case, forget it. Leave that for the
disciplinary committee."

Quistis: "Go get changed and meet me in front of the [training center]. This will be my last order."

::Quistis forces Squall meet her at the secret student date spot abusing her power in a last ditch effort to get Squall to open up to her::


Damn...
 

RagnarokX

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Nah she says that she junctioned a GF when she was younger and thinks that is the reason she forgot.

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"I found a GF inside one of the monsters I defeated... I junctioned that GF for a while. So I have experience with GF, too."
It'd be appropriate if that GF turned out to be Doomtrain.
 

Wazzy

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If they don't use the background tech than it doesn't even matter.
Most people were just asking for a port so giving us something with updated models is more than enough though I do wish they tweaked Squall and Rinoa a bit more to resemble the original designs. Everyone else is wayyyyy more faithful despite also receiving a more anime styled model.

1- His new hair looks horrendous
2- Are there any pics of my boy Seifer with the HD assets?
Only the gif which isn't great quality. From the shot his model looks good but not really as notable as the rest. Hopefully HQ photos will show the upgrade.

I still think the model looks good but I swear SE can't model Squalls hair for shit. They have never faithfully modelled his original hairstyle other than the ps2 tech demo.

I'm super happy with this remaster but man..imagine if the style they went for had been the ps2 tech demo models? It would have been the best and most exciting direction they could take the game in.
Oops! I went to rewatch that scene and yeah you're right. For some reason some of the lines Irvine says in that scene I remembered them as Selphie's, weird.
It happens lol I've remembered dialogue but incorrectly named who said it example the character who reveals Angelo is a female dog. I kept thinking Squall makes a comment but it's actually whoever is left behind.
 

Dark Knight

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So apparently an email was sent out with Seifer, Rinoa and Squall gifs. I only received the first one with the other main 5 characters which sucks.






Thanks to Scotia for making these gifs!

It has always weirded me out that in those character portraits they are clearly naked.
 

SugarNoodles

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This. I wonder if some of the people who complain about how Squall acts actually played FF8. It's a defense mechanism to push people away, and it's also why Rinoa's persistence eventually allowed her to break through it.
I mean to be fair one of the main plot devices in the game is that he literally remembers none of what you're talking about so it's pretty hard to latch onto.
 

Wazzy

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I mean to be fair one of the main plot devices in the game is that he literally remembers none of what you're talking about so it's pretty hard to latch onto.
Squall not being able to place the source of his trauma doesn't make the effects of it any less real. He still has fears of losing people in his life and no family to support him. He still understands he was abandoned just not the people and why.
 

SugarNoodles

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Squall not being able to place the source of his trauma doesn't make the effects of it any less real. He still has fears of losing people in his life and no family to support him. He still understands he was abandoned just not the people and why.
I would disagree that he understands he was abandoned. His introspection for most of the game is limited to statements that people can't rely on other people.