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Rod Rosenstein Announces 12 More Russians Indicted for hacking Democrats
- Thread starter BWoog
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Did you mean "relitigating"? And I didn't bring up the primaries at all in my post, I was speaking exclusively about all of the potential frontrunners for the Dems in 2020.
Also, I believe that Russia hacked the election.
We know who they are and have evidence of their crimes now and we still can't do jack about it other than demand Putin turn them over. Which Trump will refuse to even try.
The only thing right here is that Obama got played hard by the Russians.
Did he forget the entire US intelligence community took the unprecedented step of sharing their assessment about Russian interference publicly in January 2017 (which Trump rejects to this day)? Or that Obama took punitive measures against Russian diplomats and diplomatic facilities (which Trump reversed and his NSA Flynn secretly smoothed over with the Russian ambassador and later lied about.)
Comey's people had been investigating this shit since 2016 and this investigation is the on-the-record reason Trump fired him!
The entire basis of the attacks on Hillary for using a private server and now this DNC server stuff is taking advantage of the general public's lack of knowledge of how these systems work but the primary reason it's so effective is because of the large number of people in this country who despise Hillary and the DNC and thus believe anything bad said about them regardless of how ridiculous it is. During the campaign I sat side by side with Republicans at work who know exactly how classified messaging works but who yet were repeating intentionally misleading headlines from Fox News about Hillary forwarding classified materials through her email server. I thought my face would break from the side eye.
Obama was being Obama, or in other words fair to the point of being unfair to those who most deserved fairness.
The big problem is the Republican base doesn't think, they just repeat. They automatically believe anything the right wing media or the GOP tell them without protest, no matter how vague or nonsensical, or even if it contradicts something previously claimed. So all you see is copypasted talking points they don't understand, but believe are facts.
That's basically what happens when you care more about your team than (in this case) the fate of everyone not on your team. You see this same behavior with sports fans all the time.
No one else will be in the room, just Trump and Putin.
They can say what ever they want for topics that were discussed.
According to nutjobs on Twitter, he should just tell Putin that he will pardon any and all Russians convicted from the Mueller probe, to stick it to Mueller. You know, pardoning hostile foreign agents who attempted to subvert our democracy to own the libs.
I've been thinking about a hypothetical scenario. Let's say China sees what Russia is doing and decides to get in on the mix and hacks the RNC and personal e-mails of Republicans in the lead up to 2018. Let's say they create a website called ResistanceLeaks.com and begin releasing all kinds of stuff in the e-mails. Internal arguments, voter targeting data, and anything else you can think of that could hurt the GOP. What would be the reaction by Democrats be at that point?
Would they come to the defense of Republicans in the face of a cyber attack on them? It's a hell of a thing to wonder.
Would they come to the defense of Republicans in the face of a cyber attack on them? It's a hell of a thing to wonder.
Wasn't RNC already hacked, Russia just never released obtained documents?
https://twitter.com/resisterhood/status/1018221264077541378
Interesting thread. We now know from the indictment that the Russians stole Hillary's campaign analytics in September. The Trump campaign suddenly shifted hundreds of thousands in advertising in early October. It's gonna be very interesting to see if Brad Parscale or CA got ahold of Clinton's analytics.
Jesus, if the Trump campaign did get a hold of that data, it just goes to show how much Russia truly did fuck with the election.
Who cares! Russia didn't change anyone's votes on the voting machines! Targeted ad campaigns based on stolen voter information would have no effect on people's mindsets when they went to vote! No collusion! Witch Hunt! MAGA!
Good thing I've got some weed and lotion then, gnight! See y'all tomorrow, we can watch Louie Gohmert and Giuliani showcase the various stages of dementia/untreated syphilis together.
I think that this coming out might be more dangerous than it happening. We're basically a country of two different sides right now. If it's really as it's starting to seem that the Trump campaign was not only working with but being directed by the Russians, this is a scary revelation. 30% of the country will never accept it. They will get violent.
Last time I checked, 30% is a minority number and I doubt all 30% would do shit.
I'm only half being serious since people have used some of the arguments in the post I quoted a lot.
No, I agree that should be the focus.
Whatever drugs he takes at some point he's gonna get a break down, there is way to little pressure on him and his legitimacy, also from the leaders of other countries who he continuesly meets at conferences.
I tried to say this before, but there was a time non of his bs would fly, the other leaders would simply say you're drunk go home, US or not, nuclear power or not. But our "world leaders" nowadays sadly are cowards.
I try to surround my sarcastic portion with things that (crazy) people actually say. I thought the stolen voter information bit would give it away though.
We need to stop assuming he feels anything about this shit. It's not about him. It's about the rest of the GOP. We need to convince them if they ride with him until the grave, they'll join him.
I know this is a joke but it's basically identical to what people are saying about the illegally funded leave campaign in Britain.
I wonder if anything will come of the reporting about Saudi Arabia and the cooperation from George Nader.
Going to be difficult if so many are complicit and playing defense because their livelihoods depend on it.
It's just wild to me that after all the GOP does, generation after generation, there will be yet another generation that's identities are so intwined and dependent on the GOP's success that they will persevere off the momentum alone, and live to scheme and cheat and manipulate another day.
They've been shedding support for ~11 years. I remember talking to a colleague in college about the GOP - the reasons she was supporting the party were legitimate, but when we discussed it further she started seriously having doubts.
This isn't a new trend. They're not inclusive - they will lose by default if given enough time. The trouble is getting rid of this bullshit quicker.
This is why Trump claimed not to be spending money or much. The Russians where paying for it all and running his campaign for him with Americans helping. This is why the GOP, the NRA, everyone is freaked out.
He's up for re-election November. Will Orange County wise up, or should they rename it to "Russian Red County"?
User banned (permanent): Escalating cause of prior ban, relentless pursuit of cross forum drama, thread derail
For those of you who wanted an answer, I contacted the mods multiple times and after several days, they finally replied with:
admin team said:
That was it. No further replies were forthcoming. Much transparency!
The fact that they don't address the content of my email is pretty much a tacit admission of guilt.
I fully expect this simply unbearable breach of netiquette to be acted on far faster than their response to me, but at least I can console myself during my time away with the fact that for the entire duration of my life, I have never made myself part of an organisation and process that protected war crime defenders in the name of making a forum thread run more smoothly.
Wait.. I thought one of the first moderating guide lines that banning for offsite asshattery (twitter etc. publicly accessible material) was the thing to do. And a point many celebrated when migrating.
One line that should be edited in the FAQ:
This has not been applicable on multiple instances on this site.
One line that should be edited in the FAQ:
This has not been applicable on multiple instances on this site.
Thanks for tagging us Jackpot, I really expected a better explanation (especially if it was directed to you after your ban).
Yeah, the line about "transparency" is bullshit. If they were transparent, they wouldn't insist on users having to PM them to question their decisions, instead of just speaking publicly.
I'm with you still, man. This is probably running for a lock, that's generally how it goes, but it was a poor choice on whoever enforced that. I see their logic, but there comes times when you have to look past the letter of the law. A warning and edit, okay, still wouldn't agree but I could find that reasonable. A ban was totally ridiculous and unneeded, especially since the poster in question faced no consquence. I said it then and I'll say it now.
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