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This would be massive for either Amazon or Disney.
This would be massive for either Amazon or Disney.
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Roger Goodell shopping NFL Sunday Ticket, Amazon and Disney Top Prospective Buyers
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This WILL be massive for the NFL.
Disney would be able to package this with ESPN. I wonder how much Amazon is willing to put up.
If Amazon gets it and it's tied to Amazon Prime it'll be huge. The amount of subscriber growth will be staggering.
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I find that hard to believe considering the amount of money this is going to cost whoever wins it. The end price for the current NFL Package to consumers its like $300. How is Amazon going to work that in to Prime?
Not that I'm aware of
Apple is the one most in need of interesting content for their upcoming service. I wonder why they're not a player in this? Disney with ESPN+ makes the most sense though and it's how I hope it goes. Although if it does, kiss that 5 dollar a month subscription fee goodbye.
edit: my bad. I misread the title as Redzone Channel for some reason. RZC is far more interesting to me than Sunday Ticket.
edit: my bad. I misread the title as Redzone Channel for some reason. RZC is far more interesting to me than Sunday Ticket.
I want the NFL to have the option for people to subscribe to the Redzone channel. That is the channel I am interested in. I have Directv Now and they are dropping NFL Network and never had Redzone on their service.
I thought Amazon signed a deal with the NFL for Thursday Night Football. SNF is on NBCSports app.
What incentive would the buyer have to lower the price? They're going to be the sole provider of the service, and they will just have spent a shit ton of money to acquire the rights. I'm expecting the price to go up.
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This would be only out of market games. Far less compelling than all games.
Obviously there are ways to get around the location issue, but not for the "regular" fan.
Obviously there are ways to get around the location issue, but not for the "regular" fan.
Oh hey cool, can it maybe cost less than all of my money, my soul, the deed to my house, an arm, a leg, all of my earthly possessions, and my firstborn child?
That's it! I couldn't remember, haha. I have a few different apps I watch through my FireTV and couldn't remember which day was attached to prime.
I initially thought of that but it's Amazon and Disney we're talking about. You don't think they'll outright dump a couple billion for the deal? Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass lol
Meh. As long as there's Redzone at an affordable price, I'm good. Always thought Sunday Ticket was ridiculously overpriced.
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Well for a regular fan, you should be able to get in market games on broadcast networks. This helps many transplants that's for sure.
2 of the biggest companies in the world don't need to take an L on this. They'll only do it if they can make big money. That either means they don't do it or they charge a lot for it.
Considering Amazon has Prime and Disney will soon have Disney+ I don't see how they'll catch an L with the amount of subscribers they'll get just from it. Think about that for a sec. Initially, yeah, it'll be a huge investment.
Not mad at all Netflix didn't want it.
Seems like Disney and some sort of ESPN bundle would be a better fit. And Amazon wouldn't be bad as long as it's an optional purchase. The full Sunday Ticket is like $300 USD a year, or like $400 USD with Redzone. If Prime goes up too much to cover the cost, people that don't care at all about the NFL will start to get pissed and cancel Prime.
Seems like Disney and some sort of ESPN bundle would be a better fit. And Amazon wouldn't be bad as long as it's an optional purchase. The full Sunday Ticket is like $300 USD a year, or like $400 USD with Redzone. If Prime goes up too much to cover the cost, people that don't care at all about the NFL will start to get pissed and cancel Prime.
Amazon has already shown they can handle the server load. They already hosted games on their platform, i think it was Thursday Night Football games?
Don't see how Amazon would get a huge bump off this considering they already have 100+ million Prime members. Disney+ maybe but they are already pricing their service so low they'll take a bath. I don't see a path to profitability unless they can somehow get a bargain from the NFL.
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Ill just leave this here
Super Pro? lol, is this from the 80s? I know Marvel was doing some funky stuff in the 70s and 80s (Dungeons and Dragons etc)
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Yup. Plus they have the platform, I'm guessing they might use Twitch to live stream games?
If Amazon gets this it better not add to the price of Prime - make it an extra optional thing. If Prime goes up in cost for this I'm out.
If I am Amazon I want this. They need it more than Disney. Their streaming is lacking in comparison to competitors so they need to splurge.
Please, please, please.
All I Want is RedZone on YouTube TV or Amazon Prime TBH. If Amazon bought it and took a loss bundling it into Prime I'd fall over in my chair. If YouTube TV offered it as an add-on I'd subscribe right away.
Unfortunately, I doubt that'll change. The local network would revolt.
I don't think it's about profitability for Amazon, but content acquisition, and NFL content is the golden goose of content. FOX's successful play for NFL games 25 years ago is still talked about today by ABC/NBC/CBS and ESPN executives as a huge mistake for them.
Bill Simmons had an interview with former ESPN Exec Bill SKipper (the guy who fired Simmons from ESPN), and they talk a lot about content rights and their value:
Check out starting around 1:05:00 or so, when Skipper begins, "When I became the content guy [...] I said we just have to be comfortable just buying rights..."
It's also why Netflix was willing to take massive losses buying up content rights and production studio rights over the last 5 years, and now they're the most powerful player in Hollywood when everybody 5 years ago was like "HOw will this be profitable for them??"
All I Want is RedZone on YouTube TV or Amazon Prime TBH. If Amazon bought it and took a loss bundling it into Prime I'd fall over in my chair. If YouTube TV offered it as an add-on I'd subscribe right away.
Unfortunately, I doubt that'll change. The local network would revolt.
I don't think it's about profitability for Amazon, but content acquisition, and NFL content is the golden goose of content. FOX's successful play for NFL games 25 years ago is still talked about today by ABC/NBC/CBS and ESPN executives as a huge mistake for them.
Bill Simmons had an interview with former ESPN Exec Bill SKipper (the guy who fired Simmons from ESPN), and they talk a lot about content rights and their value:
Check out starting around 1:05:00 or so, when Skipper begins, "When I became the content guy [...] I said we just have to be comfortable just buying rights..."
It's also why Netflix was willing to take massive losses buying up content rights and production studio rights over the last 5 years, and now they're the most powerful player in Hollywood when everybody 5 years ago was like "HOw will this be profitable for them??"
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No, Fox Corporation, the remaining entity of 21CF owns Fox Sports
That's what ESPN thought when they overpaid for Monday Night Football a few years ago. They thought it would bring new subscribers, so they negotiated higher higher carriage fees with the cable providers, but less guaranteed subscribers, figuring that more people would eat the extra cost and add ESPN to their cable package. The higher fees didn't offset the guaranteed viewers they lost, and they took a bath on the deal. That's why there were huge layoffs at ESPN a year or two ago, and keep in mind that was at the order of their parent company, Disney. I'm sure that Disney would love to get a new NFL deal, but they're not going to overpay for it.
Just looked more into it. Looks like Disney has to sell the regional sports networks by June. Luckily, the Yankees have already bought the YES Network back from Disney. That scared me more than anything else.
Anyone would be better than DirecTV. I'd pay Disney for ESPN+, or throw a few bucks at Amazon Prime for this, and would even add this onto YouTube TV if possible.
Easy. If Sunday Ticket streaming could be added to the Netflix package, that would be massive for both parties. There are far more Netflix subscribers than DirecTV subs, and could potentially add millions of new Netflix subs.