Roma is now out on Netflix

Deleted member 2085 · Dec 16, 2018

Minishdriveby said:
This was my favorite moment in the movie.

This was so real to me. There were so many moments in my life where my family and I stood in contrast of another family nearby. And we wouldn't react with disgust or with a smile. We wouldn't even look, maybe just a glance or two. We would just stay silent like Sofia's family.

Brinbe · Dec 16, 2018

Minishdriveby said:
This was my favorite moment in the movie.

The scene beforehand in the restaurant was on some fucking real shit. I remember my mom similarly taking me out to eat when I was 10 and trying to tell me that her and my father were separating.

Also loved the shot of Cleo being the only one out of everyone that could close her eyes and successfully do that meditative exercise.

The adverse reaction to this film by some in here got the film snob in me riled the fuck up lol.

Min · Dec 16, 2018

Brinbe said:
The scene beforehand in the restaurant was on some fucking real shit. I remember my mom similarly taking me out to eat when I was 10 and trying to tell me that her and my father were separating.

Also loved the shot of Cleo being the only one out of everyone that could close her eyes and successfully do that meditative exercise.

The adverse reaction to this film by some in here got the film snob in me riled the fuck up lol.

Bruh. I know. This part with everyone flailing and Cleo in the foreground and Zovek in the background in perfect balance was amazing.

Tugatrix · Dec 16, 2018

Amazing movie, the tone, the ambiance really call out on my memories of Savage Detectives. The immersion in the story is beautifully made by Quaron.

I can see why people complain about the shot lingering without a cut but those seconds allow the viewer to sink in what is happening, life is like that you have moments that linger even if we try to escape to the smartphone.

And the little details that tell you other subplot, the story of the country and that is textbook show don't tell

Brinbe · Dec 16, 2018

Minishdriveby said:
Bruh. I know. This part with everyone flailing and Cleo in the foreground and Zovek in the background in perfect balance was amazing.

Yep! Ah, it's so fucking good!

I Gotta try and rewatch this on Netflix this week and see if it matches the 4k Atmos theater experience.

Aurongel · Dec 16, 2018

Saw this with my girlfriend in the theater. Lots of weepy people during THAT scene. It was an overwhelming experience that really rattled me in spots.

It's kind of interesting to see all the tricks and techniques this films uses from Children of Men and Gravity. More interestingly, the camera never seems to move on the Z plane, ever, like at all. Everything is either a rotation or a pan, never a big Spielbergian "push in".

kvetcha · Dec 16, 2018

Aurongel said:
More interestingly, the camera never seems to move on the Z plane, ever, like at all. Everything is either a rotation or a pan, never a big Spielbergian "push in".

I loved this. It felt so adamantly old-school.

Sei · Dec 16, 2018

I believe that Cleo doesn't show many emotions, because that is something that is not allowed for someone in her position. This is the reason why she feels passive. But in reality she is just accepting her place in the world as the maid, which gets reminded to her many times through out the film. From this subservient position, we see her as an observer to the happiness and sadness of the family, whom's life seems more real (or is it).

You have to take in the context of the people and time. Cleo comes from a very poor rural family, probably doesn't have any education (clearly not about sex). Then this rich, very educated family takes her in, and she just accepts everything they tell her as being absolutely true. But she never loses her humanity, and in the end she does learn and grow in her own life.

The scene where she's sits down with the family to enjoy their TV time, but then get's reminded immediately of her role.

When she finds out that the father has left the family, and the mother tells her to get lost (to put it nicely).

When the father of her child, literally tells her he will murder her and the child if she ever comes looking for him again.

The scene at the rich party, but she actually doesn't know if she feels more happy with the family or her own people. Immediately after is the scene where they go out with the kids in the wilderness, and this is contrasted with the scene where the kids go out to the movies in the city.

I really love it, so much rich contextual story telling.

luca · Dec 16, 2018

I've seen it twice now but I think I got some stuff I'm unsure of.

- Did I understand the whole political thing right? The government is stealing up lend from the poor and that has people out demonstrating against the government, who in turn hires people like Fermin to fight back the demonstrations?

- Did the fire in the woods scene have any significance? And the guy who came to sing in the foreground?

- When Cleo is the only one meditating, is this to show she is at peace with herself and has the strength to get through all the things happening to her?

- What was Sofia doing when she said "pew pew pew" in the car? Was she just trying to calculate if she could fit between the two trucks?

Sei said:
I believe that Cleo doesn't show many emotions, because that is something that is not allowed for someone in her position. This is the reason why she feels passive. But in reality she is just accepting her place in the world as the maid, which gets reminded to her many times through out the film. From this subservient position, we see her as an observer to the happiness and sadness of the family, whom's life seems more real (or is it).

You have to take in the context of the people and time. Cleo comes from a very poor rural family, probably doesn't have any education (clearly not about sex). Then this rich, very educated family takes her in, and she just accepts everything they tell her as being absolutely true. But she never loses her humanity, and in the end she does learn and grow in her own life.

The scene where she's sits down with the family to enjoy their TV time, but then get's reminded immediately of her role.

When she finds out that the father has left the family, and the mother tells her to get lost (to put it nicely).

When the father of her child, literally tells her he will murder her and the child if she ever comes looking for him again.

The scene at the rich party, but she actually doesn't know if she feels more happy with the family or her own people. Immediately after is the scene where they go out with the kids in the wilderness, and this is contrasted with the scene where the kids go out to the movies in the city.

I really love it, so much rich contextual story telling.

This whole post gets it. I like how Cleo isn't super expressive. I've had lots of family members in the same position as her, and Roma really shows what it can be like to be a maid from a poor background coming in to work for a rich family. They are there and part of the family but is also at work at the same time like that scene shows where they're watching television and she is asked to bring a tea for the husband.

I feel the scene when she first joins her friend Adela in the room perfectly shows the contrast between her family and her own people. She loves her family more than anything but is also kind of an observant, while she's more free-spirited among her own, shown both in the room, and when she goes to have a little drink.

I feel like this whole movie shows stuff that I've either experienced through other people, or stuff that my close ones has been through. And that's why I connect with Roma so much.

Tugatrix · Dec 16, 2018

Pachimari about the politics

at the time mexico was ruled by PRI for decades and cling to power thanks to shady politics and fraud. In the 70's stutents start to rebel against the status quo, and leaned left, organized manifestations. Those martial arts guys were involed in operation condor as low level guys, remember the gringo in their training? Yep CIA, they played dirty through out all America, to stop any socialism or comunism even if democratic

Landawng · Dec 16, 2018

Man, my kids accidentally broke my 4K/HDR Samsung so I havent really had the desire to watch anything these last weeks but Ive been wanting to see this so bad. I'm about to watch this on my iPhone X lol. At least with headphones I'll be able to hear the sound design clearly

yepyepyep · Dec 16, 2018

Landawng said:
Man, my kids accidentally broke my 4K/HDR Samsung so I havent really had the desire to watch anything these last weeks but Ive been wanting to see this so bad. I'm about to watch this on my iPhone X lol. At least with headphones I'll be able to hear the sound design clearly

Worst post of the thread lol

BlueTsunami · Dec 16, 2018

Landawng said:
Man, my kids accidentally broke my 4K/HDR Samsung so I havent really had the desire to watch anything these last weeks but Ive been wanting to see this so bad. I'm about to watch this on my iPhone X lol. At least with headphones I'll be able to hear the sound design clearly

David Lynch is tossing and turning right now ovee this post

mario_O · Dec 16, 2018

Tugatrix said:
Pachimari about the politics

at the time mexico was ruled by PRI for decades and cling to power thanks to shady politics and fraud. In the 70's stutents start to rebel against the status quo, and leaned left, organized manifestations. Those martial arts guys were involed in operation condor as low level guys, remember the gringo in their training? Yep CIA, they played dirty through out all America, to stop any socialism or comunism even if democratic

'Los Halcones' was the name of the paramilitary group. Run by Colonel Manuel Díaz Escobar and allegedly backed by the US. It was created to suppress any demonstration of any movement that criticized the pseudo-democratic government.
The film shows the massacre took place in 1971. The death of 120 people in a student demonstration.

Blackflag · Dec 16, 2018

Beautiful movie and expect nothing less than the GOD.

Landawng · Dec 16, 2018

This was really fucking good! Wow

I wasn't really sure what to think for the first 30 mins or so. By the end I was absolutely in love with the movie and Cleo as a character and oh my word there were quite a few scenes that had me completely blown away

From the scene where they are crib shopping to the heartbreaking scene in the hospital, I was a
complete wreck. This scene alone should honestly get the actress who plays Cleo some award recognition. I loved her performance so much, she seemed soooo real to me, her reactions seemed absolutely authentic to damn near every scene she was in.

The fucking beach scene...I almost couldn't watch. That shit was honestly almost too much to handle as a father of three kids. Seeing how violent that water had become in what seemed like a split second. I thought for sure those kids were going to drown. I can't remember the last time I felt so relieved watching a movie fearing for the worst.

If I had one gripe I wasn't really a big fan of how the movie actually ended, but when I think about it I really don't even know how you end a movie like this, so it honestly doesn't bother me with how abrupt it seems.

Ninjadom · Dec 17, 2018

Good film. Some really poignant scenes in there.

Now although I watched it on a 4K 49" TV the camera was so far away from people's faces, except Cleo. If you were to show me a clear picture of the mother, or the older kids, I wouldn't be able to recognise them. And that's after watching them in a 2 hour 15 minute movie.

Operations · Dec 17, 2018

srsly? said:
As I stated earlier, this was also my chief issue with the film. The protagonist we are presented experiences a number of hardships, as well as moments of felicity. Yet, despite these recurring opportunities for insight, the character remains strangely inert for nearly the duration. Other than a noted sequence near the end, it's difficult to guess at Cleo's internal life, beyond the most generically-implied emotions. What are Cleo's hopes? Dreams? Fears? Formative traumas? Intellectual concerns? Political convictions? What is her personal relationship to God like? Etc.. As it is, she's your quintessential cipher that the audience can shade-in as they see fit.

Tellingly, in the end, it is the white family she serves who is allowed to vocally-define who Cleo is.

Bear in mind, this assessment comes from someone whom was initially tremendously hyped for the film, based on the trailers and early buzz.

It's by design intent. As a Mexican, it's easier to immediately identify and spot the familiar mood and isolation of an in house maid with a rural, native background. While obviously impossible to generalize, these people usually are extremely introvert and keep their hardships to themselves.

And so... · Dec 17, 2018

Just got around to watching this tonight. Fantastic film. Now I know why he named the her Cleo after the film Cleo 5 to 9...this movie reminds me of the great French/Italian films of the 60's.

The sound design was awesome (even at home) the actress who played Cleo was perfect. Alfonso doesn't make many films, but when he does..man.

And so... · Dec 17, 2018

Minishdriveby said:
Bruh. I know. This part with everyone flailing and Cleo in the foreground and Zovek in the background in perfect balance was amazing.

Yea I love this too...being so autobiographical to Alfonso's life, he probably saw his nanny as the calm center in the chaos around his life, both the family drama and the political drama.

I noticed the shit of the airplane passing overhead only appears above Cleo and Zovek during the film. The only two with the zen nature to them. Any ideas what that represents?

VAD · Dec 17, 2018

I saw this film in October and I'm still shook. Real life events are scarier than a space catastrophy or a post apocalyptic world. It's weird that Cuaron is choosing to film heavy movies nowadays when his first was a very well made vaudevillesque comedy. I wish he would get back to his roots now after this.

And so... · Dec 17, 2018

VAD said:
I saw this film in October and I'm still shook. Real life events are scarier than a space catastrophy or a post apocalyptic world. It's weird that Cuaron is choosing to film heavy movies nowadays when his first was a very well made vaudevillesque comedy. I wish he would get back to his roots now after this.

This film is as rootsy as he can get..

Einchy · Dec 17, 2018

BlueTsunami said:
The scene at the beginning where Cleo is putting Sofi down makes me tear up. Its such a tender quiet moment.

I teared up when when of the kids rubs her belly and says "Sana sana colita de rana" was really beautiful. The movie as a whole is beautiful.

Lifejumper · Dec 17, 2018

Beautiful movie.

Makes me want to get a bigger and better TV.

DavidDesu · Dec 18, 2018

I love Cuaron and especially Y Tu Mama Tambien is right up there as one of my favourite films of all time. So much soul there.

This.. fucking hell what's wrong with me but I felt next to nothing. And what was with the guy singing the song during the forest fire.. just felt so out of place and pretentious.

Sorry everyone I just didn't connect with this at all.

Probably the most controversial opinion I'm about to spout but I did not feel the black and white whatsoever. I feel like so much was lost there. Beautiful cinematography, beautiful camera work, beautiful sound design, but it all fell flat for me personally.

I can't pretend to love something I felt nothing for. Sorry everyone. Can't imagine I'll ever watch this again.

Badcoo · Dec 18, 2018

Gosh. this movie was insane. Loved every second of this.

MrPickles · Dec 18, 2018

Watched this tonight, just breathtaking. A complete drama on human experience, and I want to let this one sink in for awhile. I definitely want to revisit it sometime soon.

Pachimari said:
I've seen it twice now but I think I got some stuff I'm unsure of.

- Did the fire in the woods scene have any significance? And the guy who came to sing in the foreground?

I'd like to know thoughts on this as well. I can't speak to the narrative/language significance (can't remember what he was singing), but I thought it was interesting that he was in the middle of the frame while chaos goes around behind and to the left/right of him. Naturally we want to watch what is front and center of the frame but when trees are on fucking fire it's quite different.

And so... said:
I noticed the shit of the airplane passing overhead only appears above Cleo and Zovek during the film. The only two with the zen nature to them. Any ideas what that represents?

I did notice the airplane shots over both of them, but not sure of a deeper meaning. Wasn't the airplane near Cleo in the beginning and end, and then Zovek in the middle? Perhaps it speaks to them being at peace with themselves and the endless looping cycles of life - joy, despair, hope, repeat?

Rhaknar · Dec 18, 2018

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/roma_2018/

96%

Landawng · Dec 18, 2018

DavidDesu said:
I love Cuaron and especially Y Tu Mama Tambien is right up there as one of my favourite films of all time. So much soul there.

This.. fucking hell what's wrong with me but I felt next to nothing. And what was with the guy singing the song during the forest fire.. just felt so out of place and pretentious.

Sorry everyone I just didn't connect with this at all.

Probably the most controversial opinion I'm about to spout but I did not feel the black and white whatsoever. I feel like so much was lost there. Beautiful cinematography, beautiful camera work, beautiful sound design, but it all fell flat for me personally.

I can't pretend to love something I felt nothing for. Sorry everyone. Can't imagine I'll ever watch this again.

Just wasn't for you man. No need to be sorry. Ain't nothing wrong with ya lol

Personally I loved how this was in black and white and I was definitely scratching my head when I first saw the trailer since I didn't really think it needed to be b&w but I ended up really loving how beautiful the movie was. Not really sure I would have felt the same if it was in color. I'm going to watch it again once I have a legit 4K/HDR TV to watch it on

tintskuecha · Dec 18, 2018

Curious, to the non-Spanish speakers in the thread, were you able to tell when the maids were speaking Mixtec vs Spanish or did it all sounds like jibberish?

Titik · Dec 18, 2018

tintskuecha said:
Curious, to the non-Spanish speakers in the thread, were you able to tell when the maids were speaking Mixtec vs Spanish or did it all sounds like jibberish?

It all sounded gibberish to me. But now I can observe this during a rewatch very soon :)

Deleted member 15428 · Dec 18, 2018

I've been thinking about the film again and I've lowered my score. Although it is beautiful I realize it's quite boring, all things considered.

FantasticMrFoxdie · Dec 18, 2018

Just finished this movie.

Good lord. Yeah that just might be MotY.

edit: Reading through this thread lol yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah "it was soooo boriiin"-GIANT ENEMY CRAB GTFOH!

FantasticMrFoxdie · Dec 18, 2018

Sei said:
I believe that Cleo doesn't show many emotions, because that is something that is not allowed for someone in her position. This is the reason why she feels passive. But in reality she is just accepting her place in the world as the maid, which gets reminded to her many times through out the film. From this subservient position, we see her as an observer to the happiness and sadness of the family, whom's life seems more real (or is it).

You have to take in the context of the people and time. Cleo comes from a very poor rural family, probably doesn't have any education (clearly not about sex). Then this rich, very educated family takes her in, and she just accepts everything they tell her as being absolutely true. But she never loses her humanity, and in the end she does learn and grow in her own life.

The scene where she's sits down with the family to enjoy their TV time, but then get's reminded immediately of her role.

When she finds out that the father has left the family, and the mother tells her to get lost (to put it nicely).

When the father of her child, literally tells her he will murder her and the child if she ever comes looking for him again.

The scene at the rich party, but she actually doesn't know if she feels more happy with the family or her own people. Immediately after is the scene where they go out with the kids in the wilderness, and this is contrasted with the scene where the kids go out to the movies in the city.

I really love it, so much rich contextual story telling.

There were A LOT of subtleties throughout the movie that are just so thought provoking.

A good summary and background about it:
https://screenrant.com/roma-movie-netflix-ending-meaning-history-explained/2/

I invite everyone who has seen this movie to read this:
https://laist.com/2018/12/13/netflixs_roma_digs_up_alfonso_cuarons_childhood_pain.php

Cuarón went all fucking in on this. Apparently this was very loosely based on his Childhood and his story told from the perspective of his very own nanny that raised and his brothers and sister.

Tugatrix · Dec 18, 2018

tintskuecha said:
Curious, to the non-Spanish speakers in the thread, were you able to tell when the maids were speaking Mixtec vs Spanish or did it all sounds like jibberish?

Not the best to speak about it I'm portuguese I can understand fairly easily spanish, but when they spoke mixtec I stop getting what they were saying and I guessed they were speaking a dialect

And so... · Dec 18, 2018

Pachimari said:
I've seen it twice now but I think I got some stuff I'm unsure of.

- Did I understand the whole political thing right? The government is stealing up lend from the poor and that has people out demonstrating against the government, who in turn hires people like Fermin to fight back the demonstrations?

- Did the fire in the woods scene have any significance? And the guy who came to sing in the foreground?

- When Cleo is the only one meditating, is this to show she is at peace with herself and has the strength to get through all the things happening to her?

- What was Sofia doing when she said "pew pew pew" in the car? Was she just trying to calculate if she could fit between the two trucks?

- when they arrived at the hacienda retreat where the cousins and family got together, the relatives were making light of the political/social issues that was causing chaos amongst the less well-to-do in their country. I think Cuaron used the fire to represent that storm of chaos surrounding them along the edges, even though they were so removed and protected

You saw the entire family, drunk and still holding wine glasses in their hand and drinking as they throw small pails of water onto the threatening fire. The guy deciding to sing into the fire rather than do anything else to help...seems to be Cuaron's commentary on how upper middle class Mexicans like his family reacted to the word around them back when he was a kid. Not taking it very seriously, acting as if they were trying to help but never really doing anything effective.

- as for the mother driving...I think the "pew pew pew" is referencing her boys playing with their toy guns...which we saw them do throughout the film. Once the father left for the other woman, the mother seemed to sort of regress from being the adult/mother role in the family. Talked about going on adventures, drove like a kid, bought a new car just because, went to frolick on the beach and left her kids to be attended by someone else...again, I think Cuaron was expressing how he felt his mother changed when their father left.

FantasticMrFoxdie said:
Cuarón went all fucking in on this. Apparently this was very loosely based on his Childhood and his story told from the perspective of his very own nanny that raised and his brothers and sister.

Yea, the dedication at the end was to his real life nanny who he felt raised him mostly. He interviewed her for awhile to get ideas and tone for this story, and frame what he experienced as a child through her character. The actress he got to play the nanny actually lived in the town his nanny grew up in. A lot of the furniture and objects in the home where from his childhood home.

Cuaron has stated the movie was to work through his upper middle class guilt he had from the way he grew up, and also to express how important his nanny was in raising him and grounding the family during the chaos back then, both within his family and in the city around him.

lazybones18 · Dec 19, 2018

Finally saw this. Best thing I can say about it is that it held my interest. Really appreciated some of the long shots. I would be fine with it taking Best Picture. A foreign language film is long overdue to take the top prize.

The earthquake scene did leave me a little shook. And the birth scene...fucking tragic

TheLastYoshi · Dec 19, 2018

I love Cuaron but I have some mixed feelings on this one.

The cinematography is beautiful, it's without a doubt the best shot movie of 2018. The sets and costumes are amazing, it feels like you are transported to 70s Mexico (not that I would have a clue what that's like). I like the black and white, gives the movie a raw documentary vibe and it helps that the acting is great from top to bottom, all the characters feel real and bonus points for getting the best out of the young kids in the cast .

The story and mainly the pacing didn't do much for me, I found it difficult to be invested in the story and I thought I would relate to it since I see my own mom in both Cleo and Sofia's character. I'm on the fence on whether I should recommend this to my mom, I don't think she would enjoy it because it will be too real when compared to her own unpleasant memories... It's nice to look at but I do wish the movie was a bit tighter, there is 2h15m of a masterfully-shot film but maybe 1:45m of actual story. Kind of suffers from Revenant-itis in that way where I feel like great cinematography can only carry you so far if the story is more on the simple side.

For what it's worth, I watched this at home but I would have preferred seeing it in the theater with zero distractions. There are a couple scenes that would have been a lot more immersive,

the great one-take of the Corpus Christi massacre in the baby furniture store comes to mind.

Landawng · Dec 19, 2018

tintskuecha said:
Curious, to the non-Spanish speakers in the thread, were you able to tell when the maids were speaking Mixtec vs Spanish or did it all sounds like jibberish?

I don't think so? I've been watching Narcos and just finished up the last season but I'm so clueless without subtitles.I honestly can't pick up any part of the language aside from the curses and numbers without reading subtitles. I was thinking maybe the part at the beginning with Cleo and her roommate exercising talking about "one for the tamales" might have been some Mixtec because it just sounded so...genuine and real, but I'm probably wrong

Im curious to know what parts of the movie actually had some Mixtec in it.

Deleted member 15428 · Dec 19, 2018

SuperBardiBros said:
I love Cuaron but I have some mixed feelings on this one.

The cinematography is beautiful, it's without a doubt the best shot movie of 2018.

But Climax came out in 2018

thuway · Dec 19, 2018

Saw this and it didn't really live up to the hype for me. It was a good movie but it took way too long for the plot to get going.

BronzeWolf · Dec 19, 2018

Loved this movie

Eila · Dec 19, 2018

Landawng said:
I don't think so? I've been watching Narcos and just finished up the last season but I'm so clueless without subtitles.I honestly can't pick up any part of the language aside from the curses and numbers without reading subtitles. I was thinking maybe the part at the beginning with Cleo and her roommate exercising talking about "one for the tamales" might have been some Mixtec because it just sounded so...genuine and real, but I'm probably wrong

Im curious to know what parts of the movie actually had some Mixtec in it.

When the maids talked to each other they mixed mixtec and spanish.

tintskuecha · Dec 19, 2018

Landawng said:
I don't think so? I've been watching Narcos and just finished up the last season but I'm so clueless without subtitles.I honestly can't pick up any part of the language aside from the curses and numbers without reading subtitles. I was thinking maybe the part at the beginning with Cleo and her roommate exercising talking about "one for the tamales" might have been some Mixtec because it just sounded so...genuine and real, but I'm probably wrong

Im curious to know what parts of the movie actually had some Mixtec in it.

Yup! That was mixtec. At the start of the film they say that anything in mixtec will be subtitled in brackets. On rewatch, watch out for the brackets when the maids are speaking.

Bubukill · Dec 20, 2018

This movie.... Now I want to buy an LG OLED 4K with Dolby Vision to rewatch.

Has anyone mentioned how good the audio is? Being watching with my news IEMs FIIO FA7 and adding a DAC to the Playstation via Optical port.... DAMN SONG you can basically hear all the barrio, mijo.

Excuse me · Dec 20, 2018

Seems like Roma ended up in best forgein movie category for the Oscars. Who is gonna win Roma or Cold War? Both have good buzz going on. But I wonder if Roma being netflix movie will tip the scale in favor of Cold War? Both deserve to win. Tho, I hope Dogman, Burning or Shoplifters gets the prize.

...But Star is Born seems likely to take the best picture this year.

Saudade · Dec 20, 2018

Director Alfonso Cuaron is doing a Q&A Live on YT!

luca · Dec 20, 2018

Landawng said:
I don't think so? I've been watching Narcos and just finished up the last season but I'm so clueless without subtitles.I honestly can't pick up any part of the language aside from the curses and numbers without reading subtitles. I was thinking maybe the part at the beginning with Cleo and her roommate exercising talking about "one for the tamales" might have been some Mixtec because it just sounded so...genuine and real, but I'm probably wrong

Im curious to know what parts of the movie actually had some Mixtec in it.

tintskuecha said:
Yup! That was mixtec. At the start of the film they say that anything in mixtec will be subtitled in brackets. On rewatch, watch out for the brackets when the maids are speaking.

I've seen multiple people say they don't know when they are speaking mictec when at the start of the film it gives this message about the brackets. Wonder if it's not there in some parts of the world. Would be weird.

Deleted member 18347 · Dec 20, 2018

thuway said:
Saw this and it didn't really live up to the hype for me. It was a good movie but it took way too long for the plot to get going.

I love slow burn, slice of life dramas when paced well. But I agree that this one took it a bit too far with the long shots. I see the narrative and creative justification for them but at the same time think the film would've been better with a little less.

Good film though and I love how some of the major plot points and revelations that occured around Cleo, that didn't directly affect her own life, almost felt like part of the film's background than blatantly pointed out in the foreground. I think this style of directing eases the viewer into naturally feeling and seeing the world through Cleo's eyes.

Book One · Dec 20, 2018

Man... this movie has an incredibly strong emotional impact by the time it's done. The series of events to end it is just...whew. And of course it's at times just gorgeously shot. Hell of a movie.

Roma is now out on Netflix

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