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Ronda Rousey in Mortal Kombat 11 is a disappointing and problematic decision by NRS (Check Staff Posts)
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This just sucks all round. Even if you ignore the abhorrent shite she's spouted (you shouldn't, btw), nothing she's been in convinces that she's anything close to a decent actress. Even the star power argument holds less merit. At the height of her dominance, sure, but I can't see a huge amount of people drawn over that weren't already going to have heard/been interested in Mortal Kombat anyway.
Not a great move, NetherRealm, imo.
Not a great move, NetherRealm, imo.
I definitely wouldn't mind that though.
It's the age old debate of whether supporting a piece of media that "endorses" (Because anything other than boycotting is giving a platform) a person with problematic views on aspects of society is acceptable. Art vs Artist.
Some people will boycott a game entirely because of a single voice performance no matter how trivial (see Jontron/A Hat In Time controversy), other people say that as long as it doesn't affect the media itself it's fine.
It all depends on where you lie. I for one don't see the point in personally getting worked up over a voice performance. If it's in the game and I think it's a good performance then I'll think better of the game. If it's terrible I'll think worse of the game. The fact that it's Ronda Rousey doesn't bother me one way or the other because imo there's bad stuff everywhere, it's impossible to avoid. As long as the game itself isn't actively including Ronda's views in the game it couldn't affect me less. But I also completely understand the other side of the coin where the friend of my enemy is my enemy. If you're not doing everything you can to not endorse hate speech then you're effectively endorsing it. I don't agree with the sentiment but I understand it.
Should bring back Shang Tsung and clone Sonya with her as the voice actor with the sole purpose of kicking her ass until Sonya reverts into the original.Her hard counter:
I'll be honest I had no clue about any of that stuff in OP. Only know of her cause she was a popular female fighter. Was wondering why chat was getting mad about her.
In the fighting crowd Cyborg is, but to people in general Ronda is more notable. Cyborg has 203k followers on Twitter while Ronda has 3.6 million.
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I can agree it from my own point of view, that it's bullshit and lies, and damaging on many levels.
But that does not take away the fact that its an opinion or belief from the one who "has" it.
Us calling it lies and stuff is subjective interpretations of another persons opinions/beliefs.
It's not impossible to avoid. There is infinite entertainment out there that doesn't trot out known truthers or transphobes to be the face of their game.
You people are so fucking gullible oh my god. How could anyone look at that and think "yes that's real"
Voice actors for the original character in movies gets first dips at voicing them again in other things, like tv shows and games, and Woods likes being Hades
i think its an actors guild thing
Hahahahaha if you think NR is going to address something about this.
There will be no uproar because Nobody outside this forum gives a single solitary shit about her beliefs.
There is nothing subjective about calling people who deny facts liars.
Even if we succumb to pedantry, not all opinions are created equal.
"Red's a good color" vs "These children never got murdered and thus gun control isn't important"
And even then, the more reach and followers a person has, the more their opinions spread. People take ACTIONS based on their opinions. So using the reach of Mortal Kombat to amplify the views of Ronda Rousey is irresponsible, dangerous, and scummy as hell.
I don't think any American dev or publisher could get away with half the stuff the Japanese do.
Shit like Sandy Hook denial and flat earth are demomstratable lies that is proven with FACTUAL evidence, with the former being actively harmful. Not sure why you're so quick to downplay this.
Cool. Beyond you response to the situation regarding James Wood, I really don't care. It's not relevant to the discussion.
So if someone says "minorities are dangerous animals", we're supposed to brush that off as "an interpretation"
We're talking about dead kids, and she's chalking it up to a government conspiracy. Parents of these kids were threatened and harassed by people saying their dead child was nothing but a fabrication.
Are you being fucking real right now?
Her small role in FF was abysmal and she's pretty terrible on the mic in WWE.
It's disappointing because NR did a great job improving their representation with their last MK and I have to imagine they could have got a better voice actor who's similarly as popular as Ronda for the same price. Though I imagine their might be some kind of bigger contract with the WWE given they've worked together in the past.
And if you do nothing that'll continue.
Raising a stink is all people can do. It caught Ubisoft's attention. It doesn't hurt to try.
Not just entertainment mate. There are dozens of shady companies if not more that create products that you more than likely use every day without knowing how terrible some of their actions are. Everywhere means everywhere.
But like I said, in my opinion having x person as a voice in a game doesn't endorse the views of x person. But if it was a director of a movie I would have a different view since it's the creative direction of the entire piece and you can't help but view it in the lens of the bigoted views. It all depends on where you draw the line.
You know what else endangers peoples lives? Letting someone who went through puberty with testosterone (meaning a larger frame, greater bone density, larger skull / hand / feet size and stronger grip than a woman), strike a woman in the head with their fists, elbows, knees and feet in MMA (or any other combat sport).
My partner is a trans woman and I hate Rousey for what it's worth but the argument that trans woman should be allowed to fight cis gender woman is absurd.
Her Sandy Hook stuff is also disgusting.
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Wait that was real and not a Sonya alt??
God damn it. Fuck this shit.
What?
That's not how facts work. A person's wrong belief is not "right" regardless of how strongly they hold it. The Sandy Hook Massacre is a tragedy that occurred. Anyone that refuses to believe that it did happen is not "right." That isn't a matter of opinion. That's a matter of a person that refuses to believe reality in favor of their own petty, nonsensical, hateful narrative that is in no way factual, nor should such conspiratorial views be supported.
Understanding why Woods is in KH3 doesn't make it suck that much less. I'm still going to roll my eyes and complain about it on Twitter.
But I was definitely not feeling good about MK11 as they repeatedly held up Rousey to the audience to celebrate her. Like, goddamn, there's literally no way to not know these things if you're hiring her, you just don't care. That's fine, I guess, but I don't have to like it and I'll still complain about it.
But I was definitely not feeling good about MK11 as they repeatedly held up Rousey to the audience to celebrate her. Like, goddamn, there's literally no way to not know these things if you're hiring her, you just don't care. That's fine, I guess, but I don't have to like it and I'll still complain about it.
Damn that domestic abuse story never heard of that one before was already aware of the other shitty things she did dont know how I missed that. I never heard of the abuser going into such details imagine what she left out.
I'm realizing just how upset I am by this. Folks'll probably find this strange but Mortal Kombat has always been a really important series to me. It's the game my family and I would bond over during holidays, bizarre as that seems. UMK3 is one of my favorite games of all time for all the sentiment I have attached to it. And they didn't just make a bad casting decision with this. Making a new character and casting Rousey in that roll would suck and I'd still probably skip the entry. But they made her Sonya. They ruined a character that, for however small it is, has been a piece of my life.
I'm actually kinda sad as opposed to my usual annoyance at shit like this.
I'm actually kinda sad as opposed to my usual annoyance at shit like this.
It's seriously disappointing and a part of me wants to believe it's only WB calling the shots about that kinda stuff and not NRS, especially considering how better they're getting at female representation in general. It's not gonna stop me from buying the game because I love MK too much and I'm too spineless to boycott it over a single VA, but I fully understand anyone who does.
bro Satan isn't real, did u mean Santa? because obviously she's worse than santa.
So can someone explain the saudi apologist stuff? From what i glanced at she was hoping there would be a demand to see women in that sport in that country.. Did i miss something?
Also, it would be very simple for SE to just stop using Hades. Who gives a fuck about Hercules, they've retread that some ground in every single KH game. There's plenty of Disney villians and heroes to choose from.
I'm telling you. WWE Immortals DLC. We'll get The Animal Dave Batista. We'll get the god of thunder Bork.
She hasn't done anything notable since 2016 and her current biggest stake is being the second most popular woman during WWE's biggest fall in pop culture relevance.
I mean, she was a huge star, and if this was 2015 you'd have an argument her celebrity outweighs her negatives. But I doubt most casual fans would care outside of "Oh, that's cool. I remember her. Doesn't she fake fight now?"
I mean, she was a huge star, and if this was 2015 you'd have an argument her celebrity outweighs her negatives. But I doubt most casual fans would care outside of "Oh, that's cool. I remember her. Doesn't she fake fight now?"
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Some of the replies in this thread is worse than the shit ya'll are upset with her over.
You guys are at an 11 and need to bring it down to a 5. It's cool to disagree with someone's views or not want them representing a character you love but jesus fuck go take a break from the net for a day or two.
Ronda fits the mold for Sonya. That's my opinion. Deal with it.
You guys are at an 11 and need to bring it down to a 5. It's cool to disagree with someone's views or not want them representing a character you love but jesus fuck go take a break from the net for a day or two.
Ronda fits the mold for Sonya. That's my opinion. Deal with it.
A lot of people care about Hercules and James Woods isn't Hades.
I never looked into Rousey because I had no interest but god damn those links are heinous. Found out last month that RuPaul is a racist and a TERF and now this. Damn.
It would be, if they actually cared about what Woods does, they don't.
"some of the replies in this thread are worse than a person who denies children were murdered in cold blood and shares her dangerous views with millions"
hell yeah dude
Of course!
I do not endorse her petty, nonsensical, hateful, views at any levels!
Who?
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Exactly. Not a household name, even if geeks know who she is.
