It's certainly the worst. Episode I had some nice moments buried in the mess and Episode III was memeriffic. Focusing on it is the easiest way of testing people who claim TLJ was the worst by a long stretch
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Rotten Tomatoes admits The Last Jedi was review bombed
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It's certainly the worst. Episode I had some nice moments buried in the mess and Episode III was memeriffic. Focusing on it is the easiest way of testing people who claim TLJ was the worst by a long stretch
This. It's funny because the general consensus around Empire at the time of release was similar to that of TLJ. It was too different and it took the story in a weird direction. Now if you ask most Star Wars fans what their favorite is, they will usually say Empire.
TFA was the fresh start of the completely new trilogy that promised to bring back the original cast, something the prequels could not do.
IX is coming directly after TLJ, and after Solo which given how hard it bombed was not popular with the GA at all. We'll see if "Star Wars fatigue" has set in like some claim or if its something more.
If critics trash a movie and yet the majority of users give the movie good reviews, I'll be more likely to still give it a shot. If critic reviews and user reviews suck, I generally won't want to waste my time watching the film. I use user reviews as a "second chance" when critics trash a movie. It would be nice if angry, alt-right trolls didn't weaponize user reviews.
It's well documented that pro reviews are cooked by publishers too. Give a bad review, don't get invited to premiers or granted early access. If a thing gets review bombed, you have to ask why. Sometimes it's a political movement. But sometimes it's because a few people passionately dislike something based on it's entertainment merits.
For me we have come to the point where aggregate scores of all kinds are worthless and I'm back to just listening to single reviewers that were NOT granted early access of any kind. With videogames just some footage with no commentary is usually enough.
I've been meaning to rewatch it because I heard this sentiment a few times now.
I've only seen it once and came out of it pretty disappointed, especially after how good TFA was.
They will say what Captain Marvel haters are already saying: that all those changes were due to pressure by Disney or some other conspiracy theory.
Facts won't change their minds.
Who ever thought it'd be anything else? It's true, there are legitimately people who didn't love the movie, myself among them, but people who just had some issues with the pacing/storytelling and weren't on some kind of tirade about SJW's ruining film aren't exactly the type to go leave hyperbolic 0% user reviews on RT.
Also, anyone who ever used User Reviews to validate their own argument was speaking out of their ass, no matter what.
Also, anyone who ever used User Reviews to validate their own argument was speaking out of their ass, no matter what.
The rest were at least movies. Episode 2 is legit unwatchable.
I think TLJ will stand the test of time due to its strong character work and themes. Eventually one of these movies was going to have to be about "Star Wars needs to keep its core values/strengths while moving beyond the Skywalker legacy in order to survive as a franchise." The Sequel Trilogy was always going to be a passing of the torch.
A bit off-topic, but does the Star Wars community even know what they want from the franchise after Episode IX comes out?
A bit off-topic, but does the Star Wars community even know what they want from the franchise after Episode IX comes out?
I'm confused. I'm glad we agree TLJ isn't the worst movie though
I don't completely agree with the first point because even as a kid I thought Phantom Menace was boring, I would just fast forward to the Darth Maul fight, but I understand that just might be me. Visually TPM holds up the best though, I agree with that.
I agree with this 100%. There's a lot of ideas and themes in TLJ that I think deepen the SW mythology as a whole, and I think people will realize that as time passes and as more movies come out.
I've got my issues with TLJ but it's head and shoulders over Episode 1 and 2
It's still a disaster of a movie, and it's reception will only get worse as time progresses because Disney makes these films to be consumable and then thrown aside, not to stand the test of a time.
Ep2 is one of the worst movies I ever watched, Ep1 is a shitty family movie, Ep3 is on par with the sequels tho.
Some of us like The Force Awakens more. And I can disagree with the trolls/bots and acknowledge that they review bombed. TLJ still is worse than TFA and Phantom menace IMO.
Maybe general audiences on cinemascore are just easier to please than the people on the internet who think they have to represent a bigger backlash for a film. I find it flimsy and It sounds like you just want a reason to invalid the Cinemascore poll because it doesn't represent you enough.
I do wonder if there was some outside pressure because it's still surprising for them to admit it.
Whatever you think of TLJ, the point is that the user reviews were bombed by people with shitty and bigoted ideals, not that TLJ wasn't disliked by anyone; people often used these scores to peddle the narrative that general audiences felt the same way they did, regardless of if they were making sexist arguments or not. That those scores were a representation of generally negative feelings from average moviegoers.
It's very clear for anyone not living inside of a sensitive bubble that most people liked the film and that the hatred/negativity surrounding it wasn't nearly as intense or widespread as people claim/claimed it to be.
And also holy shit if you think AOTC is a better film than TLJ.
I would one up that and say you can only review a movie if you purchased tickets through Fandango.
I doubt it, I think they just realized they looked like a joke with all the obvious review bombing.
I'm not trying to start anything with you, but I am genuinely curious why you feel TPM is a better movie than TLJ. Can you please explain why, preferably mentioning the specific parts of the movie (writing, acting, cinematography, directing, the characters, story, etc)?
I'm ok with these scores. Didn't mind TLJ at all but it didn't feel new really. Though nowadays id probably actually lower the original ones scores
Hey, I enjoyed TLJ for the most part.
I just don't find cinemascore very credible with how it's grading system works. If a film gets below an A-, that's usually bad, which is stupid.
Take Suicide Squad for example. It got a B+ cinemascore, which ordinarily would sound good right? It's close to being an A-. Then you realize films like Green Lantern and Catwoman got the same score, which puts it in the bad category.
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This isn't even getting to the incredibly on the nose racial stereotypes
Phantom Menace is boring and racist. Fuck that movie.
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Thank you
I thought this was already pretty well-known when MoviePass and (allegedly) the CoS tried to astroturf good WoM about Gotti.
I had to stop my dad a few months ago when he said The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were better than The Force Awakens.
The internet has done strange things to the minds of many human beings.
that is just the General Audience dude, get in your mind that not everybody is as cynical in the real world.
just because people hate some films on the internet doesnt mean that the average joe hates its.
Green Lantern and Catwoman are hated by like.... everyone. There's a reason why they were both box office flops.
That, plus the flat cinematography, unfocused camera work, terribly-aged visual effects, bad direction, stilted/wooden acting from basically the entire cast, the plot having little focus, characters not having arcs (and the arcs that exist are executed terribly), and no themes that are interestingly explored.
The fondness for the prequels as of late has gone from ironic to genuine and I have no idea why.
You're wrong. The vocal minority complained almost instantly.
lol,
Yeah ... no. I'd call these cartoons but that might be insulting to cartoons.
The only thing of worth when it comes to movies is watching them and coming to your own conclusion.
The entire prequel trilogy exists, so no.
Imagine thinking TLJ has anything worse than this:
They mention Letterboxd in the article. The site admits that they've been reviewed bombed as well since Ghostbusters, although not in the same level, but will actually start limiting reviews just to prevent future review-bombings at the same level as RT and IMDb.
