It's depressing that people feel like it's everyone else's job to persuade them to be good, moral people, and a confrontation as minor as getting banned from a nerd forum is enough to push them into supporting severely dangerous policies.
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RPG.net bans support of Trump on their forums
- Thread starter Jintor
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It's depressing that people feel like it's everyone else's job to persuade them to be good, moral people, and a confrontation as minor as getting banned from a nerd forum is enough to push them into supporting severely dangerous policies.
That wasn't the sole content of your post and you know it - advocating death/mass death is against the ToS
I explained this... giving your support in any way to Trump enables him to carry out all of his policies. You cn't pick and choose and say you only support certain things, the reality is your support enables him regardless of where YOU draw the line.
But this is reality. If you support Trump with your votes, you're enabling him to carry out ALL of his policies. Your vote keeps him in power, you're allowing him to continue.
Probably because if you were to ask Trump supporters on this website, you would be hard pressed to get them to tell you a single positive thing Trump has done. As would everybody else.
If (when? please?) Democrats win in 2020 I'll be worried for the wellbeing of this board. EtcetEra will definitely need some time readjust.
Why, at that point the republicans will just making fools of themselves in opposition like they did during Obama's years
I like this move by RPG.net especially the way they zero-in on the fact that promoting hate and intolerance (and supporting the people who do promote this like Trump) is not a legit political stance. You're still free to discuss the laissez-faire economics or the importance of God in politics and society but not anything that dehumanizes your fellow posters.
Supporting Donald Trump is basically all about hatred and greed. There is nothing else underlying it at this point and it should be blatantly clear that Trump and his sycophants are not coming from an honest place and believe trolling to basically be there form of playing politics. Its a group of hateful people trying to be as ugly as possible to as many people as possible. How you can write all this out and not realize this is mind boggling.
That's not how discussion works at all.
You don't need the input of a murderer when discussing if murder should be illegal or not.
Conservatives in other countries are not like the ones in America. A conservative in my country for example would definite not support the current stand on gun laws.
You can be conservative and see the the US has gone crazy and beyond just being regular conservative.
This line of reasoning suggests that all Obama voters supported drone attacks. If I had to vote for a political party I agreed with 100% I would never ever vote in my life.
Also politicians can do unexpected things. You as a voter cannot possibly know every thing a politicina will do in the future. Yet you did 'enable' him.
The difference being that Obama did not campaign on promises of drone attacks. His support of Drone Attacks is something that was criticized and came up after he was elected.
The shit people are blasting trump supporters for supporting, are things that trump literally campaigned on prior, but those people ignored when voting for him. Had Obama campaigned about supporting Drone attacks, you bet your ass his support would have dropped.
or, to put it simply:
Candidate 1: I will end net neutrality, kill birthright citizenship, nuke our opponents, and lower taxes
Voter 1: I'm voting for that guy for lower taxes!
*Candidate gets elected, then ends net neutrality, kills birthright citizenship, threatened opponents, and lowers taxes for rich*
Candidate 2: I will support national healthcare.
Voter 2: I'm voting for that guy for healthcare!
*Candidate 2 gets elected, supports obamacare, but also supports drone attacks*
Do you not see how Voter 1 and Voter 2 are different? One ignores what the candidate says and cherry picks what he supports, the other did not.
After his first election or second?
Also I am talking in general, not Trump supporters, because as I said before, Trump only has shit aspects, so I don't really care why people voted for him....all reasons for it are bad.
Yes, it does. And they did. It's not avoidable. Every admin has problematic aspects, and we need to be aware of what we're accountable for.
The point is Trump is actively harassing, harming, and calling for people to do the same to minorities.
His admin invented the terms "fake news' and 'alt facts' to cover their literal lies.
Every admin comes with issues, the fact is Trump is enabling and perpetuating hate, and is working to turn the clocks back out of spite and pettiness.
For all their talk of democracy and freedom, they're actively attacking both of these things.
Well, if you reiterate many of Trumps beliefs at modern businesses you'd get fired.
My company's CEO probably most identified as Libertarian, though his politics are more nuanced as he's from Ireland. But for the last year you can tell he hates Trump with multiple emails and registration sessions encouraging his Austin employees to vote, and immediately in response to something trump did went out an email that his company will never discriminate based on sexual orientation or gender.
So what do you suggest?
Us minorities just sit here and take it?
We do that we're told we didn't stand up for ourselves, that we let it happen.
We stand up for ourselves, we're told to sit back down and "respect different opinions".
The time for talking with these people has passed, we've tried that.
Yeah, we constantly tear each other apart because we only align 98% and bicker about why the other one isn't a true progressive, liberal, or leftist because he/she/they have another view on the 2% or doesn't belong to a minority.
Yeaaaaaah, you'd have a point if Obama ran on drone strikes. Trumps racism and general bigotry was built-in from Day 1. It was a cornerstone of his platform. I know some people were saying that all the awful shit that he said while he was campaigning was just talk and he wasn't going to do any of that stuff when he got into office. Well, we're about 2 years in now and we have a pretty good idea about his positions, so that excuse can't be made anymore. Hell, he's talking about getting rid of birthright citizenship through executive order today. At this point if anyone is still proudly supporting him you'd have to wonder if they're a decent person.
It is avoidable. By not voting. And that is what got you Americans in this shit in the first place.
Say I were an American. I don't want them to interfere in foreign countries for oil, but I am even more anti Trump antics. I know that if I vote Clinton, there will probably be more meddling in foreign countries and possible drone strikes, if I vote Trump I will through all the minorities under the bus.
If I vote Clinton I would be enabling war, if I vote Trump I would enable a facist regime. Either way I am an enabler of horrible things according to you.
I already said a couple of times I am not talking about Trump supporters but rather the (to me) 'foreign' idea of 'You either support all aspects of a politician or none'.
I know you're joking, but I literally don't give a fuck if that even legally infringes on Freedom of Speech.
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Well yeah, it is mostly hate speech that Trump spits out, it's just disguised as a dog whistle. Sometimes, and other times it is pretty transparent.
Well said.
Trump has already quite literally admitted to believing in the Soros conspiracy. The only thing he's stopped short of doing at this point is saying the word nigger in public and tweeting about the media with echoes.
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This thread must have been linked on one of the sites filled with losers obsessed with this place
Yep.
This is fucking incredible. Basically: "You want free speech? You want to say what the fuck you want and vocally support dehumanisation? GO FUCKING ELSEWHERE TO DO IT YOU FUCK."
There's been a resurgence in the past couple weeks. They must be in gop astroturfing mode right now.
If your fellows employees are anything like good old Nos here, your boss's actions will just mean Trump will win again. Or something.
I mean, if someone goes to vote and what makes them choose Trump is one RPG forum exercing their right of moderating their community and they completely forgot that Trump has put kids in concentration camps....
Those are unsalvageable pieces of shit that were never going to vote otherwise
I think it's a good idea, but in practice it will only target overt Trump supporters, and most of them will wise up quickly to not be overt.
This could backfire against users trying to get an obvious asshole to admit their views, these people like to dance around how they really feel. Obviously there are degrees, you can't have a whole thread shitting on one person, there is a line that people cross regarding that where enough is enough and a mod needs to step in and steer the conversation back, but you have to be able to ask someone point blank "do you support or not support X".
And this, I don't know if they are just referring to violent content, if not it does read a bit like hedging their bets, but I get why they put that in there as to not have the forum turn on people on a dime.
This could backfire against users trying to get an obvious asshole to admit their views, these people like to dance around how they really feel. Obviously there are degrees, you can't have a whole thread shitting on one person, there is a line that people cross regarding that where enough is enough and a mod needs to step in and steer the conversation back, but you have to be able to ask someone point blank "do you support or not support X".
And this, I don't know if they are just referring to violent content, if not it does read a bit like hedging their bets, but I get why they put that in there as to not have the forum turn on people on a dime.
Era doesn't take a political stance, at least the moderation doesn't. That the users lean progressive is just the makeup of the forum. This is a place for reasoned, civil debate, and hateful speech is not allowed, so Era doesn't necessarily target any political opinion, just some of it happens to be against the TOS.
Iirc, rpg.net was pretty good about weeding out bad faith actors even before this policy.