It's funny how this shitty meme that is only used to shut down discussion and isn't actually accurate to people's complaints of the game literally quotes another shitty meme that is only used to shut down discussion and doesn't add anything to discussion.
This is what this game has boiled down to for me. Defenders dismissing the complaints about the regressive undercurrent of CDPR and Cyberpunk 2077 because they're excited about the shiny toy.
its almost like the videogame isn't out yet and we should wait for it to be out and judge it as a holistic product rather than cancelling it a year before release
Say what now, you didn't think the Hispanic character calling the female lead 'Jaina' was top-tier writing?
So you are happy the way they use asian language and imagery in the game? My english langauge isn't good enough to explain it but reading this it sounds again, stereotypical.
stop being crazy! Problematic elements within the game are obviously an endorsement by the developers and are definitely not used to convey the themes of cyberpunk at all, haven't you heard? Someone on their twitter account said something stupid.
Is that what the game's actually about or is it just neon-drenched window dressing to what could be any city in any open-world crime game? I'll be real, I'm not inclined to give this game and its developers the benefit of the doubt for several reasons, not the least of which is their history concerning queer issues. Also, having done dozens of playthroughs of the GTA series, I'm wary of AAA developers and gaming culture at large trojan-horsing misanthropic worldviews under a disingenuous veneer of satire.
dude i'm chinese and it is perfectly fine, i know asian people are not a monolith but it is inherent in cyberpunk fiction, chinese is spoken by literally 1 billion people, in this cyberpunk timeline japanese would likely be as well
I don't disagree - but it seems like the way they use it is the exact opposit of what you would want. As in it's not part of the world, it's just window dressing to make it look cool.
when you're the creative and the source and reason for the depiction and you havent presented any form of challenge or takedown of problem issues, what is it if not an endorsement? deliberate inclusion for what then?
they state there are literal language barriers in some of the games districts, as in, instead of level gating you're gated off by not having a certain translation chip, i'd imagine we'd have soemthing like that for chinese speakers and other languages
Which is exactly what the original board game was full of. Did you ever take a look at the advertisements on the game manual? Did you ever hear of "Doctor Studd's sexual implant"?It's all pourposely gross, flashing, eye-catching like a modern non-sense eau de parfume spot.
do you not think i understand that? yellow peril 2.0 is the only way we'll ever get asian representation in videogames/movies so i've come to accept it in cyberpunk media
having a black creator involved doesnt mean it can't still lean into harmmful stereotypes and problematic writing lmao , black people still did caricature roles in hollywood, it was still bad and dersiive
Lmfao, really bro? Not a good look.
I was being brief because I'm supposed to be working right now, obviously what that guy said was extremely shitty; he was also a twitter guy that is extremely tangentially related to this game.
that's why i still maintain you should wait for the actual game to come out before straight up cancelling it a year out from release, to view it as a holistic work and judge it fully rather and see if it was deliberately shitty and a throwaway, if it is, by all means boycott CDPR, i know i would
yeah bret easton ellis wrote precisely one (1) good book, maybe two, horrible misogynist though.
It would be smart to wait until we've actually seen the 50 minute demo before freaking out
Fair enough, fair enough. Gunplay is definitely one of those things that's really up to individuals. They should just ape the gunplay from binary domain, all these years later and there's not much that's as similarly as satisfying.
That's the argument though. Lots of people are saying that social issues don't matter as long as the gameplay / story is good.
Yeah, it is hard to parse this I agree, like this post makes a really good point:
but also I feel it's still quite hard to judge this kind of thing when we have barely seen anything from the game yet and have yet to see if it consistently shitty or if the shittiness serves an actual purpose, tone and style wise. This is like a 50 hour plus game, you have to judge it holistically.
I mean the game isn't out yet so we can't really know if they don't show or do show any meaningful representation.
If it's anything like the last paragraph in the article then we alraedy know. They only showed the superficial window dressing as of now so I have to believe it will be common thread within the game.
That's wild, because I remember all of us mostly being in agreement that the dialogue was not only shitty from a racial perspective, but also riddled with a childishly absurd amount of pointlessly offensive language as well in the gameplay reveal thread...
