Rumor: Bandai Namco co-developer of Smash for Switch

Deleted member 176 · May 10, 2018

Jamix012 said:
They're different games by what Metric? They share the same character roster and even have interactivity, albeit limited.

Is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe actually Mario Kart 9? Is Resident Evil 4 PS2 actually Resident Evil 5 because it has bonus content that the Gamecube version didn't have? BS, they're both Resident Evil 4.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Resident Evil 5 is Resident Evil 5. Smash 4 and 5 both have completely different types of single player content, different stages, and even different trophies. We also have hard evidence that they're considered 4 and 5 because we know this new one was six. And Nintendo doesn't do Apple BS and skip numbers.

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Skittzo · May 10, 2018

Arttemis said:
Hasn't there been a history a people posing as developers for games, even when it's all fabricated? I remember a person pretending for years to work for, I think, EA.

Isn't there some amount of verification necessary for LinkedIn? Like, if you list your employer can the employer reject your listing if you didn't actually work there?

Tarot Deck · May 10, 2018

Tinha que ser....

Salty Rice · May 10, 2018

Damn they got him real fast. Poor guy.

Wasnt that much interested in Smash if its just a port but it looks like its a new game what got me a little more excited.

discotrigger · May 10, 2018

The guy's name is in the credits for Mario Odyssey, for crying out loud! He's not pretending to work for Nintendo- either that, or someone else built up an entirely separate Tiago Sonobe account for some time without the real Tiago's knowledge just to pull off a very weak and innocent-looking leak that he would take down almost immediately.

The amount of effort involved in such a deception doesn't match the result, nor does the idea that the real Tiago wouldn't be made aware of this by now track with reality. I guess we can wait a couple to see if there is a real Tiago who is as deeply confused as I am why anyone would put so much effort put into a worthless impersonation, but I seriously doubt it.

Jamix012 · May 10, 2018

Brock Reiher said:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Resident Evil 5 is Resident Evil 5. Smash 4 and 5 both have completely different types of single player content, different stages, and even different trophies. We also have hard evidence that they're considered 4 and 5 because we know this new one was six. And Nintendo doesn't do Apple BS and skip numbers.

Your evidence that this is Smash 6 is one job listing from four years ago which could have well been a typo. If Nintendo titles the game "Smash 6" or some sort of pun around Smash 6: sure, you'll be right, but there's little evidence of that.

Resident Evil 4 had different single player content on various consoles but it was still Resident Evil 4.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe isn't Mario Kart 9 for the very reason that the extra content isn't wildly different and the base game remains similar.
Soul Calibur 2 had different characters across consoles, but was still Soul Calibur 2.
Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U both shared characters, physics, a lot of stages and other bits of content but because there are some differences there we're calling them different games?

JetstreamRorschach · May 10, 2018

skittzo0413 said:
Isn't there some amount of verification necessary for LinkedIn? Like, if you list your employer can the employer reject your listing if you didn't actually work there?

I mean, you can see his credentials on the University Of Tokyo website and he is credited on Super Mario Odyssey. He isn't some random guy.

discotrigger · May 10, 2018

I think the whole 'Smash 6' idea has been thoroughly debunked at this point, so we can probably just move on. After all, this series has never used numbers for ordering, so you could argue 'Smash 5' is just as wrong. For all we know, it's canonically a prequel to Smash 64 and should therefore be called 'Smash 63' colloquially. ;P

Anteo · May 10, 2018

Jamix012 said:
Your evidence that this is Smash 6 is one job listing from four years ago which could have well been a typo. If Nintendo titles the game "Smash 6" or some sort of pun around Smash 6: sure, you'll be right, but there's little evidence of that.

Resident Evil 4 had different single player content on various consoles but it was still Resident Evil 4.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe isn't Mario Kart 9 for the very reason that the extra content isn't wildly different and the base game remains similar.
Soul Calibur 2 had different characters across consoles, but was still Soul Calibur 2.
Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U both shared characters, physics, a lot of stages and other bits of content but because there are some differences there we're calling them different games?

I doubt that old job listing is real but Sakurai has actually refered to smash wiiu and smash 3ds as smash 4 and smash 5, it was probably their internal names

https://kotaku.com/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bro-530744390

Kotaku: I know Mega Man is a character that has been requested for a very long time - is there something different about this game that will make it okay to bring in Mega Man? Have you tried to include Mega Man before?

Sakurai: No, actually, there was never any consideration to having him in previous games, and if you think about it, there hasn't been really a precedent for third-party characters joining other than very special cases like Sonic, during the last game. It's something that wasn't even possible. We're now going into versions four and five within the series—this is only something that's now possible.

Kotaku: When you say four and five, do you mean the 3DS and Wii U versions? Those are separate?

Sakurai: Yeah, exactly

Deleted member 4976 · May 10, 2018

New game? New engine?

Fuck me. That wait for E3 is going to be brutal.

Nikachu · May 10, 2018

Omggggg we are going to get something great with this smash title I just feel it

NeonZ · May 10, 2018

Jamix012 said:
Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U both shared characters, physics, a lot of stages and other bits of content but because there are some differences there we're calling them different games?

Sakurai also called them version 4 and version 5 in an interview. The games share a lot - fighting systems, characters, items, DLC stages and the "Stadium" modes aside from the break the targets one, but everything else is different. Basic menu presentation, other single player modes (even Classic mode/All Star vs Classic/All Star mode are structured differently and have different presentation), trophies, most stages in the base game...

Neoxon · May 10, 2018

Jamix012 said:
Your evidence that this is Smash 6 is one job listing from four years ago which could have well been a typo. If Nintendo titles the game "Smash 6" or some sort of pun around Smash 6: sure, you'll be right, but there's little evidence of that.

Resident Evil 4 had different single player content on various consoles but it was still Resident Evil 4.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe isn't Mario Kart 9 for the very reason that the extra content isn't wildly different and the base game remains similar.
Soul Calibur 2 had different characters across consoles, but was still Soul Calibur 2.
Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U both shared characters, physics, a lot of stages and other bits of content but because there are some differences there we're calling them different games?

Even Sakurai refers to 3DS & Wii U as Smash 4 & 5 respectively, though I side-step the issue by just referring to the games as Smash 3DS & Smash Wii U to minimize confusion.

Potterson · May 10, 2018

Isn't it obvious that Bamco is working on it? Hm.

BumbaT BrowN · May 10, 2018

RIP Tiago Sonobe. A true martyr

MusclesAreGirly · May 10, 2018

Wow, look, it's MemoryMan! :D

Skittzo · May 10, 2018

Potterson said:
Isn't it obvious that Bamco is working on it? Hm.

I think the interesting news here was that it uses a new rendering engine. That suggests not only that it's not a port (duh) but also that it might look fairly different from Smash 4.

NotLiquid · May 10, 2018

Splitting hairs about this being "Smash 6" is a pointless discussion because none of the games utilize a numbered title.

The exception is utilizing Smash 4 as a widely accepted colloquialism is because not a lot of people want to bother with specifics when it comes to referring to the game in the most broad strokes. They're similar enough at their core that having to specify the version only matters if what you're discussing pertains to the game's ancillary features. You don't refer to the Dreamcast version of Rayman 2 as "Rayman 3" because it has content not present in the N64 and PS1 versions. No one sensible is going to be confused when people refer to Smash Wii U as Smash 4, except people who read an obscure interview and can't read between the lines because Sakurai personally refers to it as a different version in a game development capacity.

Which is why arguing about whether or not people should call it Smash 5 is pointless since it's going to stop once the title is revealed. And I'd still imagine the likelihood of the Japanese title being "Smash Bros. V" due to the trend of using single letters as titles is fairly likely.

Falchion · May 10, 2018

This isn't going to go well for him.

dat boi · May 10, 2018

I can't understand why he would make this kind of tweet. Don't you have to sign an NDA on this stuff especially if you're at Nintendo HQ? Although I guess he immediately realized his mistake but Nintendo will for sure get wind of it.

memoryman3 · May 10, 2018

New game! New graphics engine with PBR, and Bandai Namco's planning team have experience with working on Daisy now! Hype!!!

mathematics · May 10, 2018

dat boi said:
I can't understand why he would make this kind of tweet. Don't you have to sign an NDA on this stuff especially if you're at Nintendo HQ? Although I guess he immediately realized his mistake but Nintendo will for sure get wind of it.

Lesson to learn. Read your offer letter and other documents that come with it carefully. You can be working on some really cool stuff but still have to respect the company and their relationships

Agni Kai · May 10, 2018

We are gathered here today to honor the sacrifice of a very brave man.

It seems the next Smash Bros will be huge. Can't wait for it.

Platy · May 10, 2018

WarRock said:
RIP in paçocas

Rave_norris said:
As a brazilian i hope he doesnt get in trouble for this, if he really works at nintendo.

Pringles said:
Poor Tiago. #SomosTodosTiago

NSESN said:
Cmon my fellow brazillian don't get fired please.

Oluasc said:
Haha, Brazil always leak.

TripaSeca said:
VAI BRASIL!
(Go Brazil)

7x1 redeemed.

Caipirinha, feijoada.

Seriously, happy a brazilian guy is was working at Nintendo....

He was probably drunk tho...

*Guaraná said:
and by your avatar, I know from where you are :D

GusZamboni said:
Brazilians can't hold their tongue haha

Tarot Deck said:
Tinha que ser....

For everyone that beeped my brazildar, come join us na comunidade Brasilera and talk a little portuguese

Also everyone else is invited to speak both portuguese or english

Fuchsia · May 10, 2018

Calverz said:
Lol i enjoyed this. Thank you.

Haha you're welcome! I was bored late at night.

///PATRIOT · May 11, 2018

Many developers died to bring you this information

Datajoy · May 11, 2018

I've enabled a Chrome filter that automatically changes all occurrences of "Smash 6" to "Smash 5". Argument over.

Nintenleo · May 11, 2018

I don't know how he could possibly lose his job with that tweet. I mean, it doesn't really seem like a big deal or a huge leak.

Galkinator · May 11, 2018

I miss the days of actual news instead of twitter randomness

Yavga · May 11, 2018

skittzo0413 said:
Isn't there some amount of verification necessary for LinkedIn? Like, if you list your employer can the employer reject your listing if you didn't actually work there?

Even so, I managed to create an account on LinkedIn for someone I do not represent, after a week I got invites from people that were collegues to this person. That way I managed to build up a circle of friends that all think I am their collegue, and I never even shared an article or chatted with anyone ever.

Got a lot of recommendations as well! All I had to do was accept a bunch of stuff. So I wouldn't say LinkedIN makes someone legit at all.

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