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Bleedorang3

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
236
Got to love all the salty people in this thread mad that people like BR games/modes.

This is gonna be amazing. I just wish it wasn't set in WW2. I want a modern, realistic, AAA BR.

Edit: All it's going to take to supplant PUBG is literally just to be from a competent development studio. If they did nothing more than recreate PUBG but without the jank and the insufferably terrible midgame then it would be an overnight success.
 

II JumPeR I

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,770
Germany
Dont get why people say that a BR mode fits to Battlefield. Do these people even play Battlefield?

It really doesnt fit.


Got to love all the salty people in this thread mad that people like BR games/modes.
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Nobody is salty that some people like thinks that others dont. Still doesnt change the fact that this BR clone wars is getting annoying.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Perfect for this game. Huge player count, huge maps, "realistic" weapons. I can see this being a big hit. Not a waste of resources at all. If PUBG isn't on PS4 by the time this launches. Between this, Fortnite and if the COD BR mode can be moderately successful they can kiss any advantage they may have had on the PS4 goodbye.
 

Aokiji

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,265
Los Angeles
Then you look over at Overwatch which launched with MP only and basically one or two modes if that.
A hero shooter that has nothing to do with these 3 games

Titanfall sold well and BF1 had a campaign, though it clearly wasn't the main focus.
But TF lacked that content & there is no campaign in Battlefront I. What are you talking about?

And with Battlefield, look at the quality of BF3, 4, and BF1s campaign. It's just not that good imo. So when someone says "would losing SP really be a loss", eh, losing a mediocre campaign wouldn't be a big loss. But if you can invest those resources into making more maps, I'd say its worth it.

BF1 launched with 9 maps and a campaign at $60. If they took out SP and launched BFV with 9 maps I would have a problem with it. If they took out SP and launched with 16/18 maps, I'd be pleased.
They weren't enjoyable to you. They were to me. Yes losing single player would be a loss. Removing content from games that was there before is a loss. Same with the call of duty ones. It will be very easy to avoid games & publishers that excuse to avoid a balance between profit chasing & content and just profit chasing. It's reasons like this that ppl believing Anthem will avoid BF2's mistakes are foolish. EA is proving time & time again profit matters more than anything else

And LOL & 16 maps at launch. You'll get 9 and a season pass. Now with no single player.
 

Bleedorang3

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
236
Dont get why people say that a BR mode fits to Battlefield. Do these people even play Battlefield?

It really doesnt fit.



Nobody is salty that some people like thinks that others dont. Still doesnt change the fact that this BR clone wars is getting annoying.

Why is it annoying? There's literally only two successful ones on the market that aren't extreme early access. PUBG's success in particular hinges upon the fact that it is literally the only choice you have when it comes to realistic BR games. It's not annoying at all. Myself and my friends have been clamoring for a DICE Battle Royale game for months now. This is great news.
 

Bleedorang3

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
236
Dont get why people say that a BR mode fits to Battlefield. Do these people even play Battlefield?

It really doesnt fit.

It's the most natural fit I can think of for a realistic BR game. DICE already has realistic bullet physics and gunplay, experience in large player counts and map design, vehicles and associated physics. They'll knock it out of the park.
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
I felt Battlefield 1's campaign was a bit weak. Personally the most interesting and creative Battlefield campaign was BF: Hardline, by Visceral. I'd like to see DICE attempt something similar. I don't think any of their campaigns have been BAD, but they could learn from their mistakes. I hope the next game avoids BF1's mistakes, in particular the feeling that 1/3 of it was some kind of MP King of the Hill training mode.

Put it this way: while BF3 was too linear and BF4 suffered from a silent protagonist and some plotting issues, you should look at the youtube videos for BF4's soundtrack. They're full of people commenting how Battlefield 4 made them cry. You wouldn't know this looking at most internet forums where BF4 tends to cop a lot of flack along the "worst campaign I ever played" lines, but DICE have got some chops. They just need need to get their formulas mixed a bit better and Battlefield could easily replace CoD as the go-to cinematic FPS experience each year. And to be honest, DICE has nailed certain emotionally manipulate Oscar Bait storytelling aspects way better than Call of Duty has over the past few years. There is going to be a void left by CoD, and BF is all too happy to fill it.
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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't see how it doesn't fit. Map and player count are there. They'll obviously do some retooling and with their engine destruction will be part of it. Like of any FPS game to have a BR mode. Battlefield is the one I'm sure many can agree with.
 

ElBoxy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,135
But TF lacked that content & there is no campaign in Battlefront I. What are you talking about?
I know DICE makes glorified tutorials but BF1 had a campaign. It's hard to gauge whether a SP campaign will garner more sales when we just had so many shooters with campaigns that sold less than previous entries.
 

VeePs

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,369
They weren't enjoyable to you. They were to me. Yes losing single player would be a loss. Removing content from games that was there before is a loss. Same with the call of duty ones. It will be very easy to avoid games & publishers that excuse to avoid a balance between profit chasing & content and just profit chasing. It's reasons like this that ppl believing Anthem will avoid BF2's mistakes are foolish. EA is proving time & time again profit matters more than anything else

And LOL & 16 maps at launch. You'll get 9 and a season pass. Now with no single player.

I literally put "in my opinion" in my post, so it's fairly obvious the campaigns weren't enjoyable to me. I'm talking about me. If you liked it, good for you. BF3 was poor, BF4 was poor, BF1 was decent. Ultimately it was short, linear, and it failed to create an attachment to any of the characters for me. Hey, maybe by BF7 Dice will learn to create a memorable campaign.

Your second point is what I was talking about. If your game is multiplayer only content is important. TF1 launched with not enough content. Same with Battlefront. Gamers will complain in that case. As for the season pass, I think EA will make maps free and move on to other methods of micro transactions.
 

Achtung

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,036
I kinda want Crackdown 3 to have a BR mode complete with the destruction.

Battlefield BR makes sense..
 

Bleedorang3

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
236
Pretty sure PUBG and their 40 plus million PC and Xbox players can give a fuck

Do you really think PUBG and this hypothetical Battlefield BR could coexist? Like, what possible reason would anyone have to prefer PUBG over a professionally produced DICE BR unless they prefer poor performance, bugs, and a development studio which seems to somehow revel in it's incompetence.
 

VeePs

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,369
Do you really think PUBG and this hypothetical Battlefield BR could coexist? Like, what possible reason would anyone have to prefer PUBG over a professionally produced DICE BR unless they prefer poor performance and bugs.

Different styles of play. Have you played PUBG and BF? One is a TPS and options for a FPS game type. The other is a FPS. The gunplay is totally different. We don't even know how Batlle Royale will work in BF1 yet.
 

Sir Guts

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Oct 26, 2017
10,480
This new direction is uncomfortable. I feel like a lot of games will go out their way just to add battle royale
 

rebelcrusader

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,833
Dont get why people say that a BR mode fits to Battlefield. Do these people even play Battlefield?

It really doesnt fit.



Nobody is salty that some people like thinks that others dont. Still doesnt change the fact that this BR clone wars is getting annoying.

LOL these clone wars have barely begun

And plenty of people are salty... If I counted how many times on this site people used some version of "I can't wait for this fad to be over" I'd have a very large number
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
What I meant to say was the majority of gamers who buy Battlefield buy it for the multiplayer. That's what the series is famous for. It's great you enjoyed the campaign. I really wish DICE would just let us buy the game in separate parts. Something like $40 for the multiplayer and $20 for the campaign. I understand why they don't do that and why they'll never do that, but it would be nice.
People always say stuff like this, and it doesn't makes sense. The well made FPS campaign costs like 3x more to make than the multiplayer, although post-release MP development can shift that somewhat. You go back to Battlefield 3, where the campaign team was like 3x bigger than the MP team. Other games have had different splits, but the basic point is that making a campaign requires an entirely different team, and they're a bunch bigger team with a wider range of skills and they cost more money. So you'd be looking at $15 for the MP, and $45 for the campaign. But they'll never do that. The economics behind these games is that the expensive campaigns are subsidized by the MP.
No I definitely bought Battlefield 1 for the campaign lol. I've only played two multiplayer matches to date haha!
You're not alone, and it's kinda weird how many people find it unbelievable that EA's tactic of adding singleplayer campaigns to their games is WORKING. The demographic for MP games may be larger, but the number of people who love a linear singleplayer FPS campaign number in the millions. DICE want their money. They want that audience. And as a side effect, the campaign teams hired to make these campaigns... want to make campaigns. That's their entire job. People somehow think removing these campaigns would result in more MP content. Ignoring that the reason why modern FPS games have less MP content is due to rising production costs. Assets take longer to make. Levels take longer to make. The SP teams don't work on MP. If you tried to force them, they'd leave. They didn't join DICE to make MP games.
 
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Bleedorang3

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
236
Different styles of play. Have you played PUBG and BF? One is a TPS and options for a FPS game type. The other is a FPS. The gunplay is totally different. We don't even know how Batlle Royale will work in BF1 yet.

Lets assume they both shoot for the same style of BR: Realistic gunplay with bullet drop, large maps with vehicles, etc. I can guarantee with near certainty that DICE is in a better position to execute on those design goals than PUBG Corp. I have 500+ hours in both games and I come away stunned by PUBG Corp's incompetence each and every time I play PUBG.

its simply the only option

Until Ring of Elysium (and, yes, Battlefield BR) gets a wider release and more polish PUBG is the only option for people who prefer BR's with realistic physics and gunplay.

You're right, maybe Battlefield BR will be so much different than PUBG that their audiences don't overlap. You'll forgive me if I don't think so though.

Edit: I forgot to add I don't play PUBG in Third Person. As soon as First Person Perspective launched I switched to that and never looked back. Third Person is cancer for tactical games.
 

VeePs

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,369
Lets assume they both shoot for the same style of BR: Realistic gunplay with bullet drop, large maps with vehicles, etc. I can guarantee with near certainty that DICE is in a better position to execute on those design goals than PUBG Corp. I have 500+ hours in both games and I come away stunned by PUBG Corp's incompetence each and every time I play PUBG.

its simply the only option

Until Ring of Elysium (and, yes, Battlefield BR) gets a wider release and more polish PUBG is the only option for people who prefer BR's with realistic physics and gunplay.

You're right, maybe Battlefield BR will be so much different than PUBG that their audiences don't overlap. You'll forgive me if I don't think so though.

I think the target audience will overlap, but I think PUBG can still survive. Battlefield will never go TPS, and it's mechanics are more arcadey (imo) then PUBG. It's similar to a COD Battle Royale vs BF Battle Royale. The games are going to feel different. The TTK will be different.

With PUBG most of the time I play the game just feels tense. How I play is very slow and methodical. I won't know until I play BF1 and BLOPSIV but I don't think I'll be playing Battle Royale in those games like that.

With that said the devs need to move. PUBG X1 needs more polish and more content. I also think F2P will clothing/skin micro transactions is the way to go and will help offset loss in population. PS4 version should aim to launch this winter as well.
 

Venom

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,635
Manchester, UK
Dont get why people say that a BR mode fits to Battlefield. Do these people even play Battlefield?

It really doesnt fit.



Nobody is salty that some people like thinks that others dont. Still doesnt change the fact that this BR clone wars is getting annoying.
Why is it annoying though? This isn't a BR spin-off, it's an added optional mode. 99% of games cloned each other.
 

Chittagong

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,793
London, UK
And it'll be the best damn BR available.

Ain't that the truth

Proper, satisfying, refined controls, not yanky movement impro'd from third person to first control

Proper, high quality production values, not generic 3D store assets sprinkled around

Proper, fluid performance, not yanky 15fps plane rides

Proper, immersive audio, not sample deck tier effects

+ destruction
+ DICE tier support for new maps and features
 

Lucifonz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,132
United Kingdom
This new direction is uncomfortable. I feel like a lot of games will go out their way just to add battle royale
I wrote an article about this - genuinely believe Fortnite (as that's what hit the mainstream) will be as influencial as COD4 was to the industry. Just like post-COD4 we saw everyone adding mp and rpg unlock mechanics with perks etc. Moving forward we'll see a lot of BR mechanics showing up .
 

Sir Guts

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Oct 26, 2017
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I wrote an article about this - genuinely believe Fortnite (as that's what hit the mainstream) will be as influencial as COD4 was to the industry. Just like post-COD4 we saw everyone adding mp and rpg unlock mechanics with perks etc. Moving forward we'll see a lot of BR mechanics showing up .
Link me your article please I'd love to read it
 

No_Face

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Dec 18, 2017
1,080
Brigerbad, Switzerland
Ain't that the truth

Proper, satisfying, refined controls, not yanky movement impro'd from third person to first control

Proper, high quality production values, not generic 3D store assets sprinkled around

Proper, fluid performance, not yanky 15fps plane rides

Proper, immersive audio, not sample deck tier effects

+ destruction
+ DICE tier support for new maps and features
This, I expect Battlefield to have the best BR mode this year. It fits the game and Dice's style really well imo.
 

SecondNature

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,159
Got to love all the salty people in this thread mad that people like BR games/modes.

This is gonna be amazing. I just wish it wasn't set in WW2. I want a modern, realistic, AAA BR.

Edit: All it's going to take to supplant PUBG is literally just to be from a competent development studio. If they did nothing more than recreate PUBG but without the jank and the insufferably terrible midgame then it would be an overnight success.

I agree. Idk if DICE can make a good BR game in the WWII setting. I want the gadgets and toys of modern war.

I can see it being a beautiful setting though, but Im confused with the premise of a WWII BR game.

To me, using scopes and things like night vision and motion sensors would be really cool in a BF game. But I guess they can find a way to make it happen..

I wonder if they can add tanks ...
 

crash-14

Member
Oct 27, 2017
341
This battle royale trend... They'll need to add something really different to what it's already done.

Not like I care since I haven't played PUBG or Fortnite
 

Tranqueris

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Oct 26, 2017
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As much as I love Battlefield, I just can't bring myself to be interested in a WW2 game.

Same, I just don't get the nostalgia people have for it. It feels like the definition of that thing people think they want until they get it and then they quickly move on. I saw a lot of "Woo! WW2 babyyy, day one" when they showed COD's WW2 around E3 and then when it came out the sentiment seemed to switch to "well, so that came out huh?"
 

texhnolyze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,179
Indonesia
Oh yeah, this is what I'm waiting for. A polished, AAA Battle Royale game.

I never bought the modern EA shooters, but I might for this BR mode.

This battle royale trend... They'll need to add something really different to what it's already done.
They have the budget and talent. It'll be a pure shooters, non-gimmick, Battle Royale mode.
 

Forgiven Empathy

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
571
England
I wouldn't be surprised to find out Halo 6 will include it at his rate. Huge fan of the genre mind, I love both PUBG and Fortnite (Even enjoy the concepts of Radical Heights), so very excited to see many variations explored. Hoping one of these will be closer to The Culling style.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,696
Red Dead, Battlefield V, and Blops IIII, all coming out in the span of 2 months and all probably having BR modes.

At this rate Super Smash Bros will have one too.
 

TheCanisDirus

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Nov 13, 2017
2,304
I agree. Idk if DICE can make a good BR game in the WWII setting. I want the gadgets and toys of modern war.

I can see it being a beautiful setting though, but Im confused with the premise of a WWII BR game.

To me, using scopes and things like night vision and motion sensors would be really cool in a BF game. But I guess they can find a way to make it happen..

I wonder if they can add tanks ...
Yeah a WWII BR would be so fucking depressing and stressful and just a soul crusher. A Bad Company BR however... ;)
 

Aokiji

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,265
Los Angeles
I know DICE makes glorified tutorials but BF1 had a campaign. It's hard to gauge whether a SP campaign will garner more sales when we just had so many shooters with campaigns that sold less than previous entries.
Where is the campaign in Battlefront I? Did you have a special version that nobody else did?

I literally put "in my opinion" in my post, so it's fairly obvious the campaigns weren't enjoyable to me. I'm talking about me. If you liked it, good for you. BF3 was poor, BF4 was poor, BF1 was decent. Ultimately it was short, linear, and it failed to create an attachment to any of the characters for me. Hey, maybe by BF7 Dice will learn to create a memorable campaign.

Your second point is what I was talking about. If your game is multiplayer only content is important. TF1 launched with not enough content. Same with Battlefront. Gamers will complain in that case. As for the season pass, I think EA will make maps free and move on to other methods of micro transactions.
Yea & I was replying to your opinion about it. Idk what the confusion is.

They will do microtransactions & map packs. Just like the last battlefield.