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(Rumor) 'Great Rune' is From Software new title [Open World, Norse mythology, GRR Martin, premiere at MS E3 Press Conference]
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She didn't talk about racist, what are you talking about
I still have absolutely no clue where these people complaining about an influx of Norse mythology games are getting this idea from. I think the only other setting that would have been cooler would be like a Mayan/Aztec setting, but Norse isn't overdone at all.
Two of those games are far from releasing and Great Rune you basically count double, lol. So just two great games have honestly ruined Norse mythology for years to come? Okay...
So you fight warlords, and take their powers to fight other warlords...is Mega Man the main character?
As much as I love Norse mythology and aesthetics, it's still relatively similar to medieval settings, which I've come to really find bland and boring for the most part.
So I hope the Norse part isn't true (it might not be, actually, it seems) and that they do something completely different.
So I hope the Norse part isn't true (it might not be, actually, it seems) and that they do something completely different.
I still remember that rumour from last year about the next From game being an Aztec-inspired melee ARPG lol.
Yep. And that's a very weak justification to claim that the user is calling anyone racist.
I honestly don't get how anyone actually enjoys the Dark Souls/Bloodborne style game of gameplay. Don't you want video games to be relaxing?
I'd be excited to hear GRRM was consulting on a video game project if it were a modernized Skyrim-like project. It would even necessarily need to be set on Planetos. But not this... Not this...
Plus, add yet another time suck to the pile that's delaying TWOW :(
I'd be excited to hear GRRM was consulting on a video game project if it were a modernized Skyrim-like project. It would even necessarily need to be set on Planetos. But not this... Not this...
Plus, add yet another time suck to the pile that's delaying TWOW :(
Then FromSoftware games are not for you. And that's completely okay. Stop forcing it on your self to like something you clearly don't click with.
Not usually, no. Although those kinds of games are great, too, and I also appreciate moments of relaxation or calm within the pacing of a video game. I'm usually more interested in experiencing a story and a challenge.
To me those games are relaxing, strange as that may sound
And yet hardly anyone complains about the umpteenth medievil setting in games, while Norse mythology, which is a much more rare setting in games, and an inherently much more interesting and fantastical setting, is something that people do complain about?
I'm saying implying Fromsoft is "eurocenteric" is nonsense and wrong.
This is like saying why do people watch horror movies? Dont you want to relax with all movies? Games should be engaging, sometimes the story is engaging, sometimes the gameplay is engaging. Fromsoftware makes games you cant just fall asleep to because you HAVE to pay attention but that is probably not for you.
I understand that, but it wasn't always the case. I've played and greatly enjoyed the Dark Souls games, Bloodborne, and Demon's Souls. Even went through a number of Souslikes such as Nioh and Lords of the Fallen. But I think at this stage the formula is just wearing thin for me.
I want action games to be as thrilling as possible, and Sekiro gets my heart pounding so hard my hands shake, A+++ will purchase From again.
(Relaxing games are fun, too, of course!)
Skyrim came out in 2011, nearly 8 years ago. Between that, God of War (2018) and Hellblade (2017), that's nowhere near the amount of Norse games people in here are suggesting have come out lol
It was a commentary on the small scope of fantasy settings and their bias toward the same European themes.
Perhaps you are trying to approaching it as a souls game? The flow of combat is very different from a souls game, and the devs have repeatedly said it isn't one. I'd say the difficulty is on par with previous games once you get used to the mechanics
oh no, I finished Sekiro. It wasn't too difficult for me. I'm just tired of the difficulty is all.
People seem to forget alot of Norse Mythology seems have come from Ancient Germany.
Because Norse mythology is extremely limited in the kind of characters you can focus on. Medieval fantasy can include Norse-inspired stuff without any issues but Norse mythology specifically limits you a LOT.
Most of the biggest video game genres and franchises aren't relaxing. Most games revolve around combat, tension, competition, drama etc. From aren't unique here. Are all other forms of other entertainment media only relaxing? Of course not. You have a GoT avatar I think - that wasn't a show about best friends holding hands and picking daisies. Why aren't you watching Bob Ross?!!
Sometimes we want to relax, other times we want to engage. This seems obvious.
Same. I imagine part of the reason is that the games always allow you to go at your own pace. You'll stop to uncover more of the lore when you feel like it, you'll kill enemies on the run back to the boss if you feel like it, you often have choice of where to go next, and explore the areas you feel like exploring.
There's no infuriating NPC yelling at you to follow them while you try to read a document containing important plot information, like what just happened to me in Quantum Break this weekend.
I mean other than GoW.
No Norse based game really touches on the mythos. They touch on Vikings certainly. But there's a lot to Norse mythos beyond that.
The height of viking activity was like smack in the middle of the middle ages, and it was also when Snorri Sturluson was going around writing all his stuff that form the basis on what everyone draws from now in pop media representations and more. Lord of the Rings for instance is neck-deep in influences from Norse myth and that was a definitive and influential work for the genre.
Not that people usually use "medieval" literally anyway.
Are there even any relaxing game genres beyond walking simulators and visual novels?
I see, well maybe From's next game will be more to your liking, who knows. Although, I am personally hoping for their next game to be challenging as well
Precisely, yeah.
I do complain, though! :p I couldn't find elves, dwarves, dragons and the like less inspired for the most part. If you're making a medieval game, at least make it grounded and realistic honestly, as most of them are riddled with the same old tropes and cliches. And even then, those kinds of aesthetics have been to death in videogames, so it's still unappealing to me (I used to love the setting as a kid, but man).
Norse settings are good, especially if they actually dwell on the mythology. GoW was great among many reasons because of that: you don't really see any AAA tackling those myths and characters head on.
Still, for the sake of being surprised (as we're coming from DS and ASOIAF, which have some Norse elements beyond the ones shared by virtue of being heavily inspired by medieval Europe), something entirely different would be great.
Yeah. Sekiro wore me the fuck out because of how frustrating it was. I'm never gonna touch it again. Their next game better at least have multiplayer as an option.
Unless they finally cave and add difficulty options, I doubt I'll even try it.
Í'd love some stuff from the Nibelungen and other epic poems of the era. Even aside from the Norse stuff theres lots of monstrous stuff to pick from.
Norse mythology is fine. We have only had a handful of games that have done it (Assassins Creed will do it).
Do you guys think this will have political intrigue and complex dialogue similar to ASOIAF?
I know FROM isn't necessarily known for political intrigue and dialogue in their games but I'm hoping this title does. Something akin to Suikoden 2 levels of political intrigue mixed with souls open world gameplay would be fucking dope.
I know FROM isn't necessarily known for political intrigue and dialogue in their games but I'm hoping this title does. Something akin to Suikoden 2 levels of political intrigue mixed with souls open world gameplay would be fucking dope.
No, you're saying that calling Fromsoft "eurocenteric" is calling them racist, which is incorrect.
Also, "thing I don't get" isn't "thing that is nonsense."
I like everything about this except for the Norse mythology part. Wish they used a different pantheon. I think the hindu pantheon is super cool and can fit FROM software's Soulsbourne games well. They got so many scary looking deities, good and bad alike.
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I mean most western medieval fantasy draws from stuff like Christian lore, and the Arthurian Cycle(Specifically the Romance renditions). I think there's a pretty core difference between that(Which is more at the tale end of of the actual period and a fair deal of the Renaissance than Norse Mythos, which appeared in middle and Vikings as a whole, whose high point in history was far closer to the beginning
Dark Souls already took alot of stuff from Norse Mythology in itself. Gywn=Odin (way more then Zeus, if you follow Gywn's quest to prevent the Age of Dark is like Odin being obsessed with stopping Ragnarok) Dragons are very similar, Norse themed enemies.
Dark Souls has the skin of Western Dark Fantasy series but takes so much inspiration from so many different cultures. It's sad people can't see that.
Dark Souls has the skin of Western Dark Fantasy series but takes so much inspiration from so many different cultures. It's sad people can't see that.
Sekiro borrows elements from a soulsborne game but is still unique.
I imagine Sekiro's sequel will be about Taoist stuff, considering the endgame's shift away from Buddhism.
I would love to see a game set in or inspired by pre-imperial India, though. That would be super interesting.
If GRRM is on it, I'd rather the game stick to European stuff. It would be a shame to have a game centered around one of those other mythologies without proper consultants being on the project.