- Oct 27, 2017
Updates are at the bottom of this post
Definitely worthy of its own thread. There have been many "leaks" in the past, but this one is incredibly well made if it's actually fake. It's getting a ton of attention. A guy (accidentally?) leaked the entire roster through the final character art through Snapchat. The info checks out with his LinkedIn information -- he could be a person with this kind of promotional material. Furthermore, making all of this art from scratch would be an immense amount of work for a fake, even moreso than the infamous Rayman "leak".
Quoting the top info from the OT. Read from top to bottom~
Just wanted to post an Imgur link to the banner "leak" for the morning crowd
It could be real (it's feasible that marketing materials are being sent out to stores for the holidays), what I need to know is whether we've seen that clean background before, kinda funny how the best proof for it is the part without any characters on it
I also don't mind the characters and hey, we might finally get out of the Ken/Incineroar hole
I've put together three of the banners, including the leaked one, so we can compare and contrast:
Top: Current, Post-Isabelle Banner
Bottom: E3 Banner
- Luigi, Sheik and the Mii Fighters have been moved considerably. Luigi is now near the middle, left of Ken, all of the Mii Fighters are to the top right of Mewtwo, and I dunno where Sheik is.
- Jigglypuff is shifted slightly up, next to Geno, and you can see her full art.
- This is the first time we've seen Greninja's full tongue I think.
- Isaac is standing on some weird green... stuff? I assume it's meant to be Psyenergy?
- Inkling is now actually looking at someone, thanks to Mach Rider.
OP HERE: Just wanted to clarify that The Grinch is not part of the leaked roster lol, it's just more unrelated-to-Smash evidence that this is legit.
I decided to look into the part of the leak that might be overlooked - The Grinch. It's in the background in a couple of spots.
Universal Studios, which is distributing the film, is not listed as part of the company's references, though that's not saying too much since the movie's merchandising could be handled by a third party, like Hasbro, which is listed. Their site also still has a 2010 copyright so who knows how up-to-date it is.
Another Grinch oddity - the ornament (?) with the dog is based on this promotional art but with one major difference - the Grinch is facing the other way. As in, the ornament folds over, and there's a front and back face. I can't find a single render of The Grinch's back, although admittedly I'm not spending my Wednesday morning looking at that many Grinch images. But if such a thing isn't freely available, and this is fake, then the faker decided to also mock up The Grinch renders of all things.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, The Grinch's cinema run in France begins on November 28th. It makes sense that it'd be in the same batch as Smash, given their release proximity.
(img above first posted by Dark Cloud)
EDIT: THIS IMAGE IS A SCREENSHOT OF A SNAPCHAT VIDEO THAT HAS THEN BEEN ZOOMED IN. Obviously it's going to be blurry!
The leak reveals the following characters:
- Mach Rider
- Chorus Kids
Shadow and Ken are likely to be echoes of Sonic and Ryu respectively.
Why people find the story legitimate:
--------The leak was framed as just a dumb Snapchat gone wrong. How the app works is that you can send a small video to a friends as a video message that will get deleted by the app itself. The story is he was banking on that to delete the evidence and have a laugh with a friend. Then his friend leaked the photo (whether or not this was a part of a larger prank or not) on 4Chan and censored the name so poorly that people were able to find this guy and where he worked.
That's why people find the story legitimate. It's not the picture that's the focal point but the framing all around the picture itself is the story why people think it's real.
UPDATE: The company that the accidental leaker worked for has been confirmed to be real and working with Bandai Namco.
Also some more #teamreal stuff:
-------------------Another set of comparison images I put together, this time looking at the empty battlefield which, AFAIK, hasn't popped up anywhere before without characters on top. The top image is the earliest and emptiest banner (doesn't even have Ridley), the bottom image is the latest.
Every cloud and light source is identical, from what I can tell. Not only that but...
The blue crystals behind Villager's net and Ivysaur are also seemingly the same distance apart. I didn't even know they were there until I did this comparison and tried to track 'em down.
So yes, the leaker could have just painted this entire Battlefield themselves, but they sure nailed every aspect of it, even when its all smudged up like this.
A THIRD UPDATE: As you know from one of the quotes above, The Grinch has been used as a piece of evidence that this is legit. However, some users have commented that it's hard to see that the Grinch artwork really isn't the same art as what's already seen on the official movie poster, so two members have explained it more thoroughly:
------------------------I made this quick comparison. Maybe this could be added to the OP to accompany Rotobit's explaination?
I used the dog, and the Grinch's chin on the left poster as reference points. Not only is the Grinch's head lower, you also can't see his eyes, nose and mouth. Besides, it doesn't seem to have the lowest tuft of hair or a cutout line for that, so it's almost 100% a flipped image of the poster on the left (that doesn't explain the difference in height, but he's probably carrying something else than the dog on the front).
UPDATE #4: The leaker no longer works for the company we thought he worked for...
...but he's now working at a similar nearby company, lol.
We still in this ride.
Leak not dead yet
credit to u/rockerLS on reddit:
So, upon further investigation, I don't think this means anything.
There are two Eric Bricard LinkedIn accounts:
The former is the one that links Marina PLV, the latter one links ACP PLV, where he's worked for 1 year and 8 months. They list the same education, so it's clearly the same person. So...this lines up with him leaving Marina PLV in November 2016 assuming he got the new job a couple months later.
We might have been wrong about which printing company this was from all along. The leak might be from ACP PLV and not Marina PLV.
I'm a little less confident in this leak than I was a day ago, but I don't think it's dead quite yet. "
UPDATE NUMERO 5: Internet Detectives are going way too far, but this is some mild fuel for #teamreal
UPDATE NUMBER SAD: People are 50/50 on Liam, some are saying he's been legit this year while others are pointing out that he's been devastatingly wrong and full of misinformation in the past. He also stole information from a different tweeter yesterday and claimed it as coming from his own source. Furthermore, this could be either misinformation or a straight up lie by the leaker, but if what Liam is saying is true, then this is really fucked up that an innocent person got involved in this and I hope people won't send hateful messages to the person if this supposed leak turns out to be fake.