• Light/Dark
  • Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

[RUMOR] Miller Ross (Crystal Dynamics leaker): Perfect Dark hit road bumps, now expected to release at least a year after Tomb Raider

Angie

Angie

Best Avatar Thread Ever!
Member
Nov 20, 2017
39,476
Kingdom of Corona
Miller, a Crystal Dynamics insider who accurately gave information in the past about the studio and Avengers, shared this in the Avengers thread and thought it was worth its own thread.



Miller said:
Tomb Raider is full steam ahead, Perfect Dark I've heard has hit a roadbump or two. You'll see the former before the latter.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Miller said:
I would indeed expect at least a year between them.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Tom Raider also been in developement longer than most people expected.

Miller said:
Tomb Raider has actually been in development for a lot longer than people know, though it did restart when they shifted from Foundation to UE5. It's been in the cards for a while now.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
 
Last edited:
Milennia

Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254
Well shit

Kinda tired of tomb raider, hopefully this is at least some fresh air or something
 
Star-Lord

Star-Lord

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,799
Microsoft projects cant catch a break. Clearly something is going on there if you ask for help and the game that is properly announced is going to be out after an unannounced big triple AAA game
 
HotHamWater

HotHamWater

Member
Oct 25, 2017
682
Dorset, UK
Perfect Dark fans


hi9magR.jpeg
 
ToddBonzalez

ToddBonzalez

The Pyramids? That's nothing compared to RDR2
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
15,530
Damn, so this game will come out at least 5 years after its announcement by the sound of it.
 
Xyer

Xyer

Avenger
Aug 26, 2018
7,353
Man. What is going on at XGS. How can one company mismanage so many of their franchises? Halo, Fable, PD, etc.

I know Gears isn't as popular or well received as it used to be but I'm hoping it's still relevant this gen. It's probably my favorite MS franchise at this point.
 
dex3108

dex3108

Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,608
Xyer said:
Man. What is going on at XGS. How can one company mismanage so many of their franchises? Halo, Fable, PD, etc.

I know Gears isn't as popular or well received as it used to be but I'm hoping it's still relevant this gen. It's probably my favorite MS franchise at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

In my opinion it's BioWare situation, MS simply gave too much freedom to their studios and those studios hired bad management. MS should get more involved and tighten things a bit.
 
big_z

big_z

Member
Nov 2, 2017
7,797
This isn't new news. Not really sure the point of the thread.
We're people expecting perfect dark this year or something?
 
flaxknuckles

flaxknuckles

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,312
dex3108 said:
In my opinion it's BioWare situation, MS simply gave too much freedom to their studios and those studios hired bad management. MS should get more involved and tighten things a bit.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
This is the impression I get. Feels like Microsoft bought all these studios and gave them a long ass leash to make whatever they want to entice them to stay. And then these studios, all giddy-like, started their most ambitious projects ever. That along with Covid probably ruined things.
 

Kratos2098

Member
Feb 18, 2022
1,993
Microsoft really has no idea how to manage their games. All these titles like Fable, Perfect Dark, etc announced like 6-7 years too soon
 
headspawn

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,619
Xyer said:
Man. What is going on at XGS. How can one company mismanage so many of their franchises? Halo, Fable, PD, etc.

I know Gears isn't as popular or well received as it used to be but I'm hoping it's still relevant this gen. It's probably my favorite MS franchise at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

5 years for a new AAA game isn't unheard of and certainly not something specific to Xbox.
 
T0kenAussie

T0kenAussie

Member
Jan 15, 2020
5,101
Angie Miller also said tomb raider has been worked on longer than most think iirc

On topic : I'm happy to be patient - let them cook and see what happens, find zen and stop trying to put all these unhealthy expectations on things that clearly are in early dev
 
flaxknuckles

flaxknuckles

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,312
headspawn said:
They said at least one year between them, Tomb Raider is expected 2024-ish.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see where he said Tomb Raider was gonna release in 2024. Seems like he kinda dodged that part of the question directed at him and just said TR and Perfect Dark will release at least a year apart. I honestly don't expect Tomb Raider to release next year.
 

Bradbatross

Member
Mar 17, 2018
14,219
Kratos2098 said:
Microsoft really has no idea how to manage their games. All these titles like Fable, Perfect Dark, etc announced like 6-7 years too soon
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
And yet they still have a killer lineup for 2023. It's completely normal for games to hit bumps along the way, this isn't something that's unique to Xbox. In the past Xbox just didn't have enough teams and projects in the works so the bumps in the road were felt harder. Now they probably have more projects in the works than anyone else, so we should be getting consistent releases going forward.
 
ThereAreFourNaan

ThereAreFourNaan

Member
Nov 8, 2017
13,111
headspawn said:
5 years for a new AAA game isn't unheard of and certainly not something specific to Xbox.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

2025 would make at least 7 years, given The Initiative was founded from the get go to make PD and its existence was revealed in mid-2018 (probably founded with the core couple of people earlier that year). 2020 was just when the game was announced and 2021 was when CD was announced as a co-development partner.
 
headspawn

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,619
flaxknuckles said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see where he said Tomb Raider was gonna release in 2024. Seems like he kinda dodged that part of the question directed at him and just said TR and Perfect Dark will release at least a year apart. I honestly don't expect Tomb Raider to release next year.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I have no idea to be honest, they're supposed to be showing it off in some capacity or giving details this year.

ThereAreFourNaan said:
2025 would make at least 7 years, given The Initiative was founded from the get go to make PD and its existence was revealed in mid-2018 (probably founded with the core couple of people earlier that year). 2020 was just when the game was announced and 2021 was when CD was announced as a co-development partner.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

They were a brand new studio with very little staff in 2018 though.
 
NateDrake

NateDrake

Member
Oct 24, 2017
7,500
Wasn't expecting Perfect Dark until late 2024, at the earliest. If Tomb Raider started earlier and has transitioned to UE5 without issue, I wouldn't be surprised by this.
 
ThereAreFourNaan

ThereAreFourNaan

Member
Nov 8, 2017
13,111
headspawn said:
They were a brand new studio with very little staff in 2018 though.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I'm not really saying whether or not it is reasonable vs unreasonable as an overall amount of time, but it's definitely not correct to count from the announcement at TGA 2020 or something like that.

It's tough to think of true 1:1 analogues, because 2018 is a different world than even 2015 when KojiPro broke away, and another universe compared to 2010 when Respawn was formed. But we do at least know that things are not going as smoothly as they'd like them to, given the reporting surrounding staff departures and friction between the TI vs CD staff.
 
BlackheartVinyl

BlackheartVinyl

Member
Jun 15, 2020
7,125
Xyer said:
Man. What is going on at XGS. How can one company mismanage so many of their franchises? Halo, Fable, PD, etc.

I know Gears isn't as popular or well received as it used to be but I'm hoping it's still relevant this gen. It's probably my favorite MS franchise at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
And what, pray tell, do you think is the problem with Fable?
 
headspawn

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,619
ThereAreFourNaan said:
I'm not really saying whether or not it is reasonable vs unreasonable as an overall amount of time, but it's definitely not correct to count from the announcement at TGA 2020 or something like that.

It's tough to think of true 1:1 analogues, because 2018 is a different world than even 2015 when KojiPro broke away, and another universe compared to 2010 when Respawn was formed. But we do at least know that things are not going as smoothly as they'd like them to, given the reporting surrounding staff departures and friction between the TI vs CD staff.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Fair points, I agree with what you're saying.
 
wrowa

wrowa

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,373
Tbh, I think it's kinda weird to open threads based on Resetera posts from other users. If they wanted it to be a thread, they could have opened it themselves, you know? Sometimes you don't want the big attention.
 
BlackheartVinyl

BlackheartVinyl

Member
Jun 15, 2020
7,125
wrowa said:
Tbh, I think it's kinda weird to open threads based on Resetera posts from other users. If they wanted it to be a thread, they could have opened it themselves, you know? Sometimes you don't want the big attention.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Because people just want excuses to post silly fanboy things like this:

jsnepo said:
I remember reading something like this back in 2021.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
northnorth said:
I heard about the biggest lineup ever in 2015 too and my Xbox collected dust ever since.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.