Good, I'm sure the low and mid level employees will appreciate that (they won't).
Yup, easy to notice which posters have no clue what they're talking about when they mention something like what I quoted above.
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RUMOR - Morale At GameFreak at an all time low.
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I came here to post this. I haven't followed this whole thing too closely but I'm sure its safe to assume some internet "fans" have sent some vitriol their way.
They really need to release these games less frequently. Yes I know the anime and everything but they need to rethink all that. Give Game Freak a nice longer development cycle for the next game to really make those games shine and make their work easier.
It sucks that part of the fanbase has been so toxic but I'm hoping the reaction to that E3 at least makes TPC rethink some of the ways they do things. Because I don't think things are gonna be better if they continue down that path.
It sucks that part of the fanbase has been so toxic but I'm hoping the reaction to that E3 at least makes TPC rethink some of the ways they do things. Because I don't think things are gonna be better if they continue down that path.
The current Pokemon game isnt even out yet and theres no sales data to prove that "fans" are actually avoiding it
Don't get me wrong, thiswill be the highest quality Pokemon game they've made thus far, but some fans' love for the series is painting their perception and not letting us look at the game with clear eyes. GF has made several puzzling decisions involving the game and the poor reception is reflective of that. Dexit is just a symptom, not the cause.
Not buying the game doesn't tell GF anything about why I'm passing up on the game. It could be for a million other reasons. There is no way to effectively communicate distaste for their decisions that doesn't involve speaking up
Have you not seen the latest video showing a bunch of QoL improvements that were widely requested by the competitive community?
Nah it's your weird, horrorshow glee that the low morale is somehow deserved.
Must suck to be a GF employee right now. Basically every problem people have with SwSh isnt their fault yet their the ones taking all the blame for it.
Oh thank god. I was really disappointed by the cut Pokemon but I guess you told me its inconsequential so im not anymore.
Not even mentioning the same people who are getting at them won't be quelled by the inevitable there at all. Quite the opposite, we all know that they're going to sell very well but it actually happening will of course light the torch paper anew. Particularly if they sell above expectations.
Because Switch versions of titles have been performing far better than previous iterations? Granted Pokemon was a handheld title so who knows, but LGPE performed more or less (a lil less) in line with previous remakes
The fan base doesn't all have the same opinions, so that's impossible. They just need to make the game they want to make and let the fans decide if they want to buy it.
No one even listened to the segment and the article contains a three word quote, lol.
Why would a Zelda game sell 15mil?I expect a good growth to Pokémon too.
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Shh, we've already established that absolutely any and all kinds of criticism is toxic, expressing such things will not be allowed, it'll be generalized as toxic behavior expected from assholes.
Low and mid level employees won't benefit much from that. Recognition of effort can sometimes be a much more powerful motivator, in this case that's be overwhelming positive reception and comments, which they're not getting for obvious reasons.
Other Switch titles had hype behind them, SWSH has the baggage of Dexit. So you can't really use Switch boost as an argument for why SWSH will suddenly get 3-5mil extra sales.
I'm sure you realize the stupidity of comparing Pokemon to Zelda. Especially when Breath of the Wild never had the negativity that Sword and Shield has.
That's a very good way of putting it. Sometimes it's seems like people don't remember that Gamefreak is the dev that created this series that they have so much passion for in the first place.
It'd be one thing if Gamefreak was pushing addictive micro transactions (EA/Activision) or silencing free speech (Blizzard) or associating with pedos (THQ), but all they are doing is making a game that doesn't live up to people's lofty expectations - not exactly a crime worthy of eternal damnation I'd say...
while it certainly wont hurt, but emotional distress doesn't just vanish like that.
Doesn't matter how good things can turn out the damage gets done, it changes hearts and minds of the people making games to be shit on 24/7, ive lost many friends to other fields because they just didn't want to be around 'gamer toxicity' anymore just for doing their jobs
Yea stop ignoring the fans calling you lazy everyday because they didn't add every Pokemon.... I hope this is sarcasm OP.
I did. They were decent, but they're super small compared to what I'm talking about, and they still haven't even made the biggest improvements in that regard anyways since Hyper training still requires level 100 pokemon for some god forsaken reason and we still know of no easy way to switch to hidden abilities. Hell, most serious competitive players are either
1. Using showdown instead of cartridge play anyways
2. Using hacks to generate their pokemon because it will always be easier anyways
So while they're cool accesibility changes, they aren't really that important or impactful
They definitely need to slow their pace, or at least rethink how they expect to keep pace.
I'm gonna lose my sanity if I have to keep seeing people talk about the Pokemon multimedia marketing machine as a valid reason this all needs to keep happening.
- return of PSS (+ improvements)
- return of DexNav features like Pokemon available in the area and special Pokemon with improved stats/movesets
- return of rental Pokemon (online feature)
+ features that were asked by fans like :
- ranked online mode
- QoL features regarding breeding
- Being able to play together with friends (true in the Wild area)
- Stronger Pokemon available in the wild
- less hand holding at the begining of the game
I feel bad for lower level employees and their morale, of course, because they're the ones who will get the internal blame, which absolutely sucks and will never ever be okay. But the higher ups are the ones who are going to make the money off of this game which is going to get Pokemon sales + Switch boost, so I can't really feel that bad for the higher ups.
Not a fan of people painting any criticism as toxicity though, Pokemon for some reason is something a lot of people get really upset about any criticism toward, to the point of getting excessively mad about a 7.8 review or whatever. There are bad eggs anywhere in this fandom.
Not a fan of people painting any criticism as toxicity though, Pokemon for some reason is something a lot of people get really upset about any criticism toward, to the point of getting excessively mad about a 7.8 review or whatever. There are bad eggs anywhere in this fandom.
I mean, they might not being doing that, but if we get another third version over DLC (they have no excuse at this point, platform wise) it'll be just as bad
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No no, you are not allow to say good things about what has GF done or else you're a shill.
Weren't you debating that they don't really listen to fans, though?
The presence of widely requested QoL clearly shows otherwise, whether you find them impactful or not.
There could be a variety of reasons:
- Having to cut the dex and probably their own personal favorites when it was the decision of higher ups of Nintendo, TPCi, and Gamefreak higher ups
- The mixed reception to Little Town Hero and not being able to branch out more from Pokemon
- The game getting leaked and the reception to just how many Pokemon were cut
- Nightmare schedule from TPCi due to merch, anime, etc
This is the part all these ridiculous "game will sell lots, they'll be fine" posts are missing, but I've learned not to expect better from many Era users, they tend to ignore plenty of things.
I'm afraid I'm out of the loop. What has GameFreak down to necessitate "winning back fans"? I don't really play Pokémon games anymore, but I'm very curious.
Leaks + the negativity from the fans when you're busting your asses to make the best game you can.
Makes sense to me
Makes sense to me
Yeah, but not only that, there's alot of positive fans for the franchise too, not sure what's wrong with them, maybe they noticed the disappointment in many fans for cutting off their favourite pokemons?
Oh yeah and the leaks.
Why do people insist that leaks are demoralizing? Are people forgetting how constant the negativity was when Masuda announced that not all Pokemon will be in the game back in E3/Treehouse?
Not really actually. It doesnt seem like a stretch at all though, and I think weve heard similar things before? I. remember reading something like this before
They had ranked online already, it's not new, even if it sounds like they improved it a bit.
Who asked for the stronger wild Pokemon thing?
It's cool that they're finally letting us skip tutorials that they should've let us skip ages ago, but doing a few bare minimum changes doesn't impress me that much
Rental pokemon returning are cool, but most people never even knew it existed in SM because of the hoops you needed to jump through so I doubt it's returning due to fan demand.
Not sure how anything is that similar to DexNav
Online play, competitive game, competitive training, breeding, leveling, balance, exploration, handholding/tutorials, cutscene skipping, berry growing, pokémon interaction, random battles + pokémon in the overworked... The list is pretty long, don't focus only on whatever you care about because it makes you part of the toxic bunch that is poisoning the fanbase. If you're going to critizise, do it properly.
If it doesn't do the sales that some of the others have done or its a dissapointment than its going to be a fiasco. there's been tons of issues with this game and the announcement around it.
No, not the fanbase. The four whining losers in the back of the playground. And they should keep ignoring them.
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