I great test for these cards will be Control with max raytracing features enabled without using DLSS. That should be the game they use to show the performance difference on stage.
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Rumor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080, RTX 3070 leaked specs: up to 20GB GDDR6 RAM
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AMD needs to really threaten NV's dGPU market for NV to start care about console market in big way, also big boys like their "All In One" APU solutions.
Lol at the last line but i kinda agree. The cards we have now i think will hold up ok for next gen at least until 2023 and then start showing age.
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You guys think it's just unlucky that they massively underdelivered RTX performance on the 20XX series with no way to improve it considerably in future cards?
4352 CUDA cores, 544 tensor cores and a measily 68 RT cores on the 2080Ti, with only 46 RT on the 2080. What, are they 10x the size or that much more expensive to make?
If the 3080 doesn't have at the very minimum over 100/150, closer to 200 RT cores, I'm going to re-evaluate what sort of system I'm going to build.
I can't drop 2 grand on high-end parts only to throw it away or try to bargain for it on ebay/risk scammers and spend it again in 2 years when the performance is more reasonable. I don't want a collection of expensive obsolete PC parts building up here and there's a lot of cool, worthwhile shit to buy. I can't even give them away to people I know, no one wants these computers, they want tablets.
Maybe I'll get something midrange, if there's even any point, and by the time it's adequate we'll have DDR5 and intel 10nm 5GHz with lots of cores to maintain 144/240Hz with next-gen games.
Let's see what AMD has, might not be making use of RTX for a few more years anyway. I'm not playing anywhere close to 30fps for anything short of miraculous gains. Pump it up.
30fps....the fucking audacity after the price hike and selling high-refresh monitors *clenches fist, picturing green logo*.
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Why?
If you want ray tracing, you pay for it. And if you dont, you get another Nvidia GPU. Just like they did with Turing. They didn't went bankrupt did they?
They could do the same with Ampere. But not just for low-end gpus.
They most likely did that with Turing because they had so much shitty yields that they produced a lot chips that just couldn't do RT => rebrand it and ship it to recover some costs.
Very unlikely that was their intention when going into current-gen of cards and it's very unlikely their intention moving forwards. I'm surprised if even AMD bothers with non-RT cards once they get their solution going.
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Nah, Switch 2 will use this:
Sony and Microsoft will be using AMD for the foreseeable future.
I think my 2080ti may last the whole PS5 generation. I do think they need to focus more on price reduction at the top end than performance gains though, most people aren't shelling out over $1k for GPUs and the -80ti's used to be big movers for them. Gamers want to say they have 'the best' in their rig.
Rather than doing an 16xx equivalent, I can see them just keeping the 2060S and 2070S in circulation for the sub-$400 crowd
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Worldwide release first week of September. All RTX 3xxx cards come with Cyberpunk =)
Do it!
That is why I am not preordering cyberpunk. Nvidia would do well to bundle it with their cards.
I'd be willing to bet money that that exact scenario will happen.
No it won't. Nintendo takes old hardware and makes it into something new. They won't use a brand new component.
The new consoles MIGHT use a card that's already out, no way in hell it's using the ones discussed in the op.
With this delay it just makes 100% sense. Have it as flagship bundle for new gen of RTX cards.
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Switch 2 is at least 3 to 4 years out. I'm thinking that they'll use a modified version of Orin with leftover yields.
Agreed. That's how I got a copy of destiny 2 when it dropped on pc with my 1080ti.
Fair enough but you see what I mean about raytracing being the key focus of next gen for the first few years, since the consoles are focussed on 4K and cross-gen now. If we won't even enable RTX because we don't have enough RT cores in these expensive new cards to get good performance, what's the point.
I have a sneaking suspicion that xbox will be cross-gen for more than 2 years too, especially if there aren't exclusives to push people to the XSX.
And if Sony supports PCs with specs considerably lower than a PS5...it's almost the same thing.
It's starting to feel like next-gen doesn't even start till close to 2024, when we ditch cross-gen and start making good use of those new systems, and have pro refreshes too.
I want to hear about how many RT cores are in the 3080. I hope it's multiples more than what they dripped into the 20XX to give us 30fps, while raising the prices.
And the performance needs to go way up too if the consoles are close to a 2070 super in power for $450 for the whole system with SSDs, decent CPUs and nice form-factor. Step it up. Big steps. Leap even.
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I don't understand these posts.
What do you prefer?
* Variant A: a new RTX Titan card released around the time of series 30 introduction priced $1500 and a year after that you'll get a 3080Ti with similar performance for $800.
* Variant B: a new 3080Ti card released around the time of series 30 introduction priced $1500 - and that's all, folks!
Switch 2 won't use any off shelf Tegra SoC as none of them are made for mobile power envelope now. If Nintendo will want to stay with NV then they'll have to pay for the design of a completely custom SoC for Switch 2.
You really think Nvidia won't use their designs for other products?
I understand what your saying, a performance hit should be already expected because of the demands of RT. Next gen consoles will have RT but it will be optimized. I myself use a Razer Blade Pro with a RTX 2080 Max-Q and I get About 80 to 100 fps on Wolfenstein Youngblood max settings at 1080p with RT on. Imagine 4k thats why VRS and DLSS exist. My card is the equivalent of an RTX 2070 desktop card at around 7.5 to 8 TFlops.
Did you need upgrade?
There is always new shinier shit around the corner.
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You can always sell that and put the funds towards the 3 series if you need to. Honestly, that card is a bad purchase all around - the price/performance ratio is not good.
I hope they can, and I hope it's not that expensive, but AMD has yet to show they can match Nvidia when it comes to the XX80 Ti series for a while now.
But hey, if AMD can bring it, hell yes. Do it AMD. Help my wallet out.
The most affordable tech is the one you need right now.
That being said, can't wait to see how this does with the Pimax 8kx or the Reverb.
Nvidia could easily go back to its old formula of releasing the 3080 in September for $900-1000 with 10GB GDDR6 that is ~20% faster than the 2080 Ti and then release the 3080 Ti in March or April 2021 for $1999 with 20 GB of RAM ;p. That way they get people to double dip who insist on always having the fastest consumer video card, excluding the Titan that now costs $2500 and would likely go up in price to $3000-4000.
Not really. There will always be something new at one point in time. Currently we aren't even close to RTX 3000 series, rumors seem to point towards second half of 2020. At the time 3080 arrives you'll be around one year on your 2080S.
Luckily until the ps4/xbox one die (And seemingly MS want that to take years) it seems most games will still be designed to look amazing on this spec, but I'm not really able to take advantage of my 1440p/144hz monitor at all heh.
Not if you've been playing games since then! Plus GPUs hold their value, to a point. You'll easily be able to sell a 2080 Super in July for $500 or more, I'm almost certain.