I don't think we watched the same film. Did you see a shitty adaption of Huck Finn?
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Rian Johnson is still directing his ‘STAR WARS’ trilogy, stop believing things you read on Twitter
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I don't think we watched the same film. Did you see a shitty adaption of Huck Finn?
from here on out, the main star wars movies are going to be the safest movies that they can possibly be
Oh.
So you didn't even watch the prequels.
Never mind. Go watch those and get back to me. Because thinking TLJ is worst than AoTC is as factually incorrect of an opinion as there ever will be. Of course, you're likely just trolling, as so many people do.
Yeah I didn't like how he wasted in TLJ.
Right. He felt like an important part of TFA but The Last Jedi just tossed him to the worst part of the film.
Bring back Lord & Miller. I'm sure they'd give you a better film than your Ron Howard cookie cutter nonsense.
What's the problem, you don't want some hot Gungan on Hutt action?
Honestly I don't care how much money they've made. The series is in shambles.
He sold it for a reason. Unless you were in a coma for like two decades then I shouldn't need to explain that the fanbase drove him out.
This is one of my favorite takes. Rian ruined Finn, a character who was comedic relief in The Force Awakens, by having him continue being comedic relief.
Someone just posted a "bye bitch" gif on the previous page.
The rose-tinted revisionism around the prequels is really something else, given how utterly reviled those movies were by SW fans when they came out and for years afterward. Makes you wonder how many people shitting on TLJ now will suddenly start praising it in 10 years when something new has come out to complain about.
You keep saying factually incorrect things in this thread.
Your personal opinion isn't important. Saying the series is in shambles is a lie.
Rian once said this:
The opposite of that will now be the status quo.
thats much is very apparent, you guys clearly didn't have to sit through the trash they put up on the screen in my theater
I would agree with the Finn stuff. Finn's arc was so awful in the TLJ. Honestly, that was what bothered me the most, although TLJ had more problems. I thought Luke's arc was well done. I really didn't get that hate.
The movie was entertaining. It just had some puzzling character choices.
The movie was entertaining. It just had some puzzling character choices.
For a somewhat serious post, I was interested in what Rian would've done without the shackles of JJ's shitty worldbuilding setup. I also don't like how he handled Finn or Rey to a lesser extent, but I hoped he'd be better with characters he could build from the ground up.
But George's prequels are trash, editors/other director's saved the original trilogy a fuck ton from his own crappy direction and TLJ is the best SW movie.
So. Hmmmmm.
I wonder if they regret getting in on the SW thing. I'm guessing they got the offer a few years ago, probably around the time ep VII came out, so it probably seemed like a great idea then. But now GoT has gotten so big, I think they probably recognize GoT is a better series to write and produce for, and if not that then some whole new series. SW is not something that I see D&D be a good match for, I think it's a waste of their time, their background could have gotten them something more interesting. But maybe they're huge SW fans.
Sorry but it sounds like you and your friends just hate women and minority characters. How many MAGA hats do you own?
Oh great.
Now the trilogy is guaranteed to not go smoothly. It's going to be difficult three different visions unless you're Alan Moore.
I hate to say it, but I feel this will become like Return of the Jedi, good, but failing to live the highs of the first two.
Now the trilogy is guaranteed to not go smoothly. It's going to be difficult three different visions unless you're Alan Moore.
I hate to say it, but I feel this will become like Return of the Jedi, good, but failing to live the highs of the first two.
Right. People acting like everyone in here is doing that. I couldn't be happier about this. That ain't no "bye bitch" though.
Hyperbole, thy name is Anthanes. Maybe you can argue he was put into a more of a B plot of the movie (a very important one at that), but nothing so bad was done to him as a character that he could ever be argued to have been "ruined". He acts how you could see his character acting post-TFA and he is developed into someone one could see becoming an important character for the resistance in the long run.
Yes, that's what it's going to be now. There are so many people who are so passionate about what their idea of Star Wars is that the only way to avoid making everyone mad is to play that shit as safely as possible.
This is fucking nonsense. No one drove Lucas to do anything he didn't want to do. Ever. The guy did exactly what he wanted to do and wouldn't listen to anyone. Which is why the prequels suck so much. He refused to listen to anyone.
He sold because he wanted to. He even took less money to make sure it was sold to the company he preferred.
I will say that his treatment for the ST (which was cribbed from heavily despite being 'tossed') had some utterly great visual designs that at the very least were much more interesting than the versions we actually got.
And yeah, hate on Lucas all you want, but the PT? That's what expanding the universe actually looks like.
TFA was a good (necessary?) play it safe 'apology' of sorts, but much like ST09 going to ITD, needed to blow the roof off in fullfiling the promise of the premise, and TLJ did none of that. The world (in conjunction with extended media not creating any meaningfully new things) feels as small as ever, maybe the smallest it ever has.
My personal hope is that XI course corrects where needed to provide at least a suitable ending to the trilogy, and then the film's rest for a while until they can jump eras and actually shake things up.
I'm betting that Matt Smith is playing a clone of the Emperor and that XI seeks to tie up the ST leaning heavily on all three eras, with actual foundational changes instead of 'subversions', and after TLJ they don't have much of a choice, but I would be satisfied with that at least.
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nope, but i'm glad we've moved to classifying a pure difference of opinion as trolling
sure i'm being a bit hyperbolic for fun, but i genuinely really really disliked TLJ and enjoyed the prequels. the prequels had some campy dialogue that wasn't helped by the wooden acting, but i enjoyed the tragedy of anakin and the story arc overall
the two latest films feel like a completely disconnected mess with no heart and soul -- hated TLJ in particular, and that's ok. you can be sad that you liked TLJ and rian is gone, and i can be happy that i disliked TLJ and he's gone.
What happened to Tran is really all the proof you need that a large amount of the hate that TLJ received isn't legitimate or honest.
What happened to Tran simply isn't something that happens. No one was harassed off Twitter after other movies that were generally considered to be disappointing like Age of Ultron or truly terrible like Batman v. Superman.
TLJ is a critically acclaimed film that led to a female actress being harassed off Twitter by childish fanboys on the internet. That's all you need to know.
It's pretty simple: people built up an image in their heads of Grand Old Jedi Master Luke, who can toss around Star Destroyers with his mind and just absolutely wreck shit. And when the movie didn't deliver that -- and then killed him! -- they went nuts.
I am 100 percent convinced that if nothing about TLJ was any different except Luke lived at the end, the backlash against TLJ would've been nowhere the level it is in some places. Because then those same people could still hang on to the Luke they had imagined as maybe happening in the next movie. The door on that wouldn't have been shut like how TLJ shut it.
But they both had good arcs.....
Weird they would play Attack of the Clones instead of TLJ like planned. I hope you got a refund.
It's not. They announced two full trilogies and several prequels and because of poor management have now had to cancel a good portion of it all. That's a mess. If the series was operating well we wouldn't have had the Solo reshoots, and rewrites, leading to it flopping critically and financially. We wouldn't have them cancelling their prequels. We wouldn't have them cancelling one of two of their new trilogies... Leaving the future of Star Wars in the hands of the friggin GoT showrunners.....
Shambles
I enjoyed Looper, but The Last Jedi was one of the most disappointing films I've seen in a long time. I did really enjoy Rogue One and Solo though, way more than I was expecting, so I think Star Wars films can definitely still work for me, if they're good.
I don't know who's to blame for The Last Jedi being as bad as it was: was it the script and Johnson's limited ability to influence it, or was it just down to bad filmmaking on Johnson's part? I know Johnson later talked about being constrained, but earlier on I heard plenty of stories which seemed to indicate that it was very much Johnson's vision. Whichever it was, maybe Johnson could've done good stuff in a slightly less constrained context (i.e. his own trilogy). But personally I think someone like Joseph Kosinski would've been a better option regardless.
I don't know who's to blame for The Last Jedi being as bad as it was: was it the script and Johnson's limited ability to influence it, or was it just down to bad filmmaking on Johnson's part? I know Johnson later talked about being constrained, but earlier on I heard plenty of stories which seemed to indicate that it was very much Johnson's vision. Whichever it was, maybe Johnson could've done good stuff in a slightly less constrained context (i.e. his own trilogy). But personally I think someone like Joseph Kosinski would've been a better option regardless.
I really don't understand why though. If he was doing a continuation of the saga films, I could understand. Do you just think he doesn't deserve the opportunity?
Either have a conversation or don't. This is what is so infuriating about you people. You literally just admitted to me that you're trolling "for fun."
But yes, I'm supposed to take those who dislike TLJ seriously.
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