- Oct 25, 2017
Right.Not that hard to break down. Main villain is the Riddler, Batman shows up to interrogate Penguin but he isn't in the movie a lot, appears in sequels, Catwoman shows up once or twice but it's the start of the relationship, never appears out of costume, and then Firefly is like the opening action scene villain that Batman stops, or someone Penguin hires to torch a rival business or something.
Four villains doesn't mean they're all getting a ton of screen time, and it's nice to introduce people like Penguin and Catwoman now so we get more time with them, instead of how it always is with Batman films being one and done with villains.
He's actually pretty close to the age for it, especially if you have Dick starting as Robin at 12 instead of younger. Bruce fosters Dick pretty early in his life, in his late-twenties at most.
For whatever reason, DCAU Batman always reads older to me. Maybe it's Conroy's voice.
They just brought back Selilna being (half) Latina in the comics, so it'd be neat if they did that.The casting call listing any ethnicity for the roles makes me feel like they might pick some unconventional choices, at least for one of the roles. Might get something like Gugu Mbatha Raw or Janelle Monae for Catwoman. I remember reading they were being considered for Birds of Prey.
People scared by this don't seem to grasp how Gotham's criminal underworld is like an ecosystem of its own, with factions constantly pushing and pulling at one another. Just because these characters might be in it doesn't mean they all bare the same importance. Selina's relationship to Batman is entirely different to Firefly. You think Firefly is gonna warrant some important character arc? He's a cartoonish pyromaniac with a jetpack who is there to get punched.
Yup. There is no need to cram origin stories for any of these characters into the movie. I think this approach would've worked better with Affleck though. An older Batman would already be familiar with all of these guys.I don't like this mindset that comic book movies seem to have instilled that each movie needs to be about one or at max two villains.
My favorite part about Batman is the number of villains in Gotham, and Batman's familiarity with them. Not every villain needs to be "the big bad", with a full origin story and the whole movie focusing on them. It'd be cool to see Bats on patrol encountering some name villains, or do something cool like throw a monkeywrench in someone's plans later in the movie by having another villain's plans overlap and suddenly have them be in the movie.
I think Batman and his villains are known enough that we don't need an origin story or to spend a lot of time focusing on explaining who they are. Riddler, Penguin, and Catwoman are household names, and Firefly is pretty self-explanatory.
Supposedly detective Batman is exactly the idea. Believe the director has even said as much. I am sure there will be a main villain, with the others being window dressing. I mean, we all fucking love the Long Halloween. It is a great detective story, and is filled with the rogues gallery. It can be done.
What's stopping it from being a detective story? Like half of those villains do their own thing. With catwoman and penguin more likely of the 4 to help batman in their own way. Would love to see club owner penguin.
Yeah how are they ever going to craft a detective story around a cat burglar, a mob boss, and a guy who trades in riddles.
That's exactly what Reeves has said he's doing since he's been on the project. I don't see how having multiple villains makes that impossible to do.