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Sony rebooting Silent Hill series - Update: Maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I certainly wouldn't want this to be an exclusive but if Sony stepping up is the only way a new Silent Hill gets made then so be it. Series deserves to at least exist.
Let me be blunt.
I do not want the next-gen arms race to be determined by first parties locking down multiplatform franchises as exclusives. I do not want to see Sony making an exclusive Silent Hill and then Microsoft countering by funding an exclusive Devil May Cry or Final Fantasy, because it will just continue to snowball from there and everyone on both sides gets screwed over aside from the third party companies who basically get free paydays for doing no work. I do not want a future where previously multiplatform franchises are being bought and sold like fucking trading cards.
And if that means a couple dead IPs have to stay dead, I'm fine with that.
I'd really appreciate you didn't get my hopes up guys ffs. This would be a dream come true.
I'll have to disagree with you on that. If anyone is willing to make a new game for IPs I care about, I don't give two shits about exclusivity. Ideally, I'd want everyone to be able to play anything, but if Sony / Microsoft / Nintendo, or even (LOL) Stadia getting exclusive rights gets me a new Silent Hill / Metal Gear / Castlevania, then I'm all for it.
As a Silent Hill fan, I hope there is a new game involving the original staff and that it reaches as many people as possible. I don't know what will happen in terms of platforms, so for now I just hope the game really exists.
I mean, agreed to a certain point. But I'd rather for the game to actually exist, if only for one system, than getting nothing for another decade.
I think your problem is that you are seeing this as just "console wars". Sony and MS aren't competing like they did in the PS3/360 days, that is long over and they are so far away from each other now that you just can't measure them the same way. The gap between the two is just that big. Third party exclusives would do very little to bring the two closer, there are tons of other factors that would be more crucial.
Sony teaming up with Konami sounds like something much bigger than we know. Not one, but TWO Silent Hill games were rumored tied to Sony and there is even a new Silent Hill movie being worked on when Sony recently established PlayStation Productions for things exactly like that.
PS5 exclusive since it's developped internally by Japan Studio. Might come to PC a few years later but I highly doubt it. Death Stranding was always coming to PC due to the deal between Kojima and Sony back in 2015, Horizon followed because it's the same engine and the game came out 3 years ago. For Detroit, I assume Sony didn't want to be associated with the harassment problems that Quantic Dream had in the past.
Fully
Fully agree with your point, but I think the Final Fantasy and DMC comparisons are not equivalent to what is happening with Spider-man and Silent Hill. Spidey and Silent Hill were in positions were their publishers were actively driving the IPs into the ground (Spider-man) or were already dead (Silent Hill). Meanwhile Sony had the talent (Insomniac, then a second party studio, and Toyama and Team Siren) to be able to bring said IP back. Final Fantasy and Devil May Cry are not in that position, both IPs are actively thriving under their devs/publishers. Capcom does not need to run to Microsoft for Ninja Theory's help with DMC, because their own team has the IP under control. That theoretical future were Xbox, Nintendo, and Sony fight it out for control over third parties could still happen, just not over those two IPs you mentioned.
Yeah, that's just a difference of opinion between us. I get your mindset, but I don't agree with it at all - the last thing I want is a bunch of first parties making bullish moves and locking down multiplatform games just to prevent the other hardware from getting them.
It sucks when it's moneyhats, and it sucks ALMOST as much to have first party developers' time and energy shifted over to making games that third parties are perfectly capable of making themselves.
Like, I get it, people think Silent Hill would be dead without this, but I'm not willing to set a precedent for Sony and Microsoft to go ham with these kinds of IP "rentals" just to bring one dead IP back. And I say that as a Silent Hill fan.
Those examples you gave are not remotely the same though since DMC and Final Fantasy are huge IPs and have a competent company that owns them. But Bayonetta 3 wouldn't have been made, SFV wasnt getting made if Nintendo and Sony dont step in to help fund. I'd rather a defunct franchise get resurrected by any of the big 3 then not exist at all.
The rumors seem to good to be true anyway. Two Silent Hills, MGS (with Kojima possibly involved) AND Castlevania seems far fetched and hard to imagine in 2020.What's the point of making two Silent Hills games? What am I missing here, since I obviously am missing something.
Also, I approve of this gif and your great taste in tv shows!
Just to chime in on the exclusivity thing coming from a Silent Hill fan--I'll take whatever man. I've been burned too long, and I've always wanted another good Silent Hill game. It's a huge bonus that the original creator would be on board if this were a Sony-produced title. But honestly, I just want another good Silent Hill game, and if console exclusivity is the way to do that because of Konami's ineptitude, then so be it.
We know for a fact SFV would've been made without Sony's involvement, it just would've taken longer for it to come out.
Nooo, that's Silent Hills, not Silent Hill :(Soooo apperantly Horror manga artist Suehiro Maruo posted these on his Instagram earlier:
His tumblr too https://suehiromaruo.tumblr.com/post/614705897138257920/afternoons-invitations-hope-youll-join-in
Or maybe the optimist version of two games is true after all, and I don't get this timeline at all
Beautiful
I mean, when you think about it, Capcom is kinda doing a simultaneous reboot / sequel thing right now with the RE series, so it's not completely impossible.
When were these images taken?Soooo apperantly Horror manga artist Suehiro Maruo posted these on his Instagram earlier:
His tumblr too https://suehiromaruo.tumblr.com/post/614705897138257920/afternoons-invitations-hope-youll-join-in
I don't understand why this would be a stupid move on Sony's part? Were you not around for the PT hysteria ~6 years ago?! If they could recapture even half of that hype and excitement it would be by far the biggest success the SH series has ever had.
Toyama's Silent Hill doesn't need Maruo. It (supposedly) has Masahiro Ito. 😉
I wonder if it was Toyama who approached SIE with the idea, or the other way around. By the tone of the people with info, Konami was certainly not the one who lead the conversation.
Konami's US marketing rep denied it. It doesn't make the rumours any more true but overseas branches will be the last to know what's going on vis-a-vis development. I believe the same exact rumour->denial->confirmation happened in the past with Capcom US.
Context is key though. Silent Hill has been dormant for a long, long time and Konami don't seem to be doing shit with the IP anymore. Additionally, Sony's previous relationship with P.T comes into play here. Devil May Cry or Final Fantasy are crap examples in this case, because both are incredibly popular on PlayStation and IPs that are in active, continuous use by their owner.
I get the concern, but Silent Hill isn't Final Fantasy or Devil May Cry, and would you not rather see a first party platformholder step in and aid in the revival of a dormant IP than wait for it's incompetant owner to maybe do something with it?
No his comment was for 2 SH titles, Castlevania and MGS. I still don't understand why there would be two games made for this. The IP is not that strong to warrant it. :\
If Kojima wants to do it, give it to him and have SJ work on a new IP (or Legend of Dragoon Remake)
It's less that they changed things and more that they just ported the games badly. A lot of SH2's original atmosphere is ruined by the poor fog implementation in the remaster.
I could agree with that. If it was not about Konami. They would never beat a Sony game nowadays. And I'm a xbox fan!
I understand the fear, but can't see that happening. Two or three cases next gen and there it is.
Konami should license most IP's to companies with talent to do some good games. And I don't think in general, just about Konami.
I would not. I am not interested in a "let's see who can buy up exclusivity on the most third party games" arms race between Sony and Microsoft.
And on top of that, even if Konami has no stake in when the game is revealed, Sony sure as shit does. This, if real, would be PS5's The Last Guardian/FF7 reveal moment. Sony has motive for killing talk around Silent Hill, so that the announcement has the impact they want out of it.
I literally can't believe we'd be so lucky
Oh lord
Soooo apperantly Horror manga artist Suehiro Maruo posted these on his Instagram earlier:
His tumblr too https://suehiromaruo.tumblr.com/post/614705897138257920/afternoons-invitations-hope-youll-join-in
It's not making a multi platform franchise exclusive, it's making a dead franchise exclusive. Can`t be multi platform if you're not making games in the first place.
Those screens were posted 19 hours ago, so I guess the pics were taken 29-30 hours ago
I think this fear is misplsced. Both are focused on creating and building their own properties. This is a special case that you have to take advantage of.
That's a semantic argument, and it doesn't change the point I'm making, which is that I would rather Sony and Microsoft spend their money AND their developers making their own games, rather than making third parties' games FOR them just to have them as exclusives.
That's fine you want them to focus on original games, but a lot of people would love to see some of these old, once fantastic franchises come back as well. It's not going to stop Sony from making their own games.
It ABSOLUTELY does mean that they have less developers and dev funds available to make new games.
That's not how things work. Them not spending money there doesn't mean they'll divest those funds to their own games, they may just spend less.
Street Fighter wouldnt die without sony paying to rush a barebones exclusive release and believing in that is completely absurd
I would be beyond ecstatic if Sony were able to bring these IPs back, especially Castlevania.
I'm exciteed for:
Castlevania because I imagine it will be in the vein of Bloodborne..
Silent Hills because it will be the payoff for the brilliance that is P.T.
Metal Gear, while already a complete series, will bring us a brand new stealth action game. Something that is sorely missed.
I'm exciteed for:
Castlevania because I imagine it will be in the vein of Bloodborne..
Silent Hills because it will be the payoff for the brilliance that is P.T.
Metal Gear, while already a complete series, will bring us a brand new stealth action game. Something that is sorely missed.
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