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Will the game show in August after being a bust in June?

  • Yes

    Votes: 653 36.3%
  • No

    Votes: 1,147 63.7%

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PlanetSmasher

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Sony Japan is definitely developing it, that much they seem sure on, but it's unclear if Konami has any direct influence on the project from what they have told us.

It's also probable that Sony would have to license the IP regardless of Konami's level of involvement. Even if Konami is helping, Sony is still doing the bulk of the work and that's not something you just give away as a favor. A licensure contract would still have to be signed.
 

Angie

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Sony Japan is definitely developing it, that much they seem sure on, but it's unclear if Konami has any direct influence on the project from what they have told us.



I'm not an insider, but I don't think that has to do with Silent Hill ;D
True, but I think they also know about Capcom and RE8. So i'm baiting them to see if there is more to it lol
 
Oct 29, 2017
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KatharsisT please. Also you might know something about this.


株式会社カプコン:CAPCOM WORLD JAPAN

ゲームというエンターテインメントを通じて「遊文化」をクリエイトする株式会社カプコンのウェブサイト。ゲーム情報サイトをはじめ企業情報サイト、ネットショッピング、ファンサイトなど、さまざまなサービスについても紹介しています。

Capcom doing some some kind of new registration announced on june 10?
10 in Japan is 9 on the US. That is a tuesday.

So..... Does this mean nothing or I'm over reading it?


Maybe I'm misreading context here, but the registration date reads as 6/14/2016.
 

Henrik

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Ah, interesting points, and fair enough. :) I'm not really much of an MGS fan (as I mentioned earlier in the thread), but even so, I would probably change what I wrote in another thread yesterday (the instance of "Kojima's" in this post might change to something like "Kojima/KojiPro's"), given what you've noted above. Though, I do still think you might be slightly off on the "anti-America" question, which you introduced earlier in the thread.
I highly recommend Ghost Babel for GBC so you get a taste of Fukushima's writing structure versus Kojima's writing structure on Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake. You will notice that Ghost Babel has similar structure to MGS trilogy than MGS4. Kojima's heavy work didn't started until MGS4.

MGS1 was the first installment in the franchise to go 3D so it was important how it was built.

Tomokazu Fukushima:
Story written by: Hideo Kojima, Tomokazu Fukushima
Setting design assistant (alone)

Fukushima's own tasks:
Script, radio system script (alone), hazard setting, camera setting, mission log script (alone), scenario demo script, flag management (script unit)

Takashi Mizutani:
Polygon demo authoring, scene direction, chief polygon demo director (polygon demo unit) <------ Cinematics

Scenery modeling, texture artist, scenery graphics filtering, character modeling, skeleton models created by Mizutani, machines modeling, special effects, director of CG design (graphics unit)

So Toyota:
Storyboard artist, polygon demo authoring, motion adjustment (alone), scenery direction (polygon demo unit)

Key animator (alone), animator, ninja motion animator (alone), data conversion, motion director (motion unit)

If we go to MGS2 Sons of Liberty.

Tomokazu Fukushima:
Written by Kojima, Fukushima
Setting research/justification

Script, codec script (alone), "The New York Mirror" by Fukushima (script unit)

Takashi Mizutani:
According to May 1999 Mizutani was in the setting research team when they visited New York. For unknown reason he wasn't credited for it. Something happened between Kojima and Mizutani.

Background part, director of 3DCG design (3D design unit)

Storyboard, real time demo production, real time demo director (real time demo unit) <----- Cinematics

So Toyota:
Key animator, facial expression animator, director of motion design (motion unit)

We move on to MGS3 Snake Eater.

Tomokazu Fukushima:
Written by Kojima, Fukushima, Murata
Setting research/justification by Kojima and Fukushima

Scripter, radio scripter (alone) (script unit)

Takashi Mizutani:
Left during the beta phase of MGS3 in 2004 which all heavy work by him was uncredited by Konami's policies for leaving the company. Because MGS3's direction was similar to MGS1 and MGS2 on cinematics it's safe to say it was his work. Masaya Kobayashi got credit for it as real time demo director. When Kojima had that position for MGS4 it was Konami who took out Mizutani's credits for MGS3.

Background modeling unit was without a director which was Mizutani's space.

So Toyota:
Guns research/justification by So Toyota, Satoshi Hirano, Yoji Shinkawa

Animation director (animation unit)

Technical advisor (motion capture unit)

MGS4 changed for the worse and paved the way for Kojima's writing structure went back to old days of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake. Kojima was full of cliches you see in movies. Who name special force unit members like Black Ninja, Running Man, Jungle Evil, Night Fright. They are awfully bad.

Kojima and Fukushima have different style of storytelling. Fukushima wants personal characters and long background story about science and special force unit. We didn't have much of that in MGS4.

So I'm curious on Fukushima's future for a new IP.
 

The Last One

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It's currently happening a livestream for Dead by Daylight and the rumor now is that the new assassin for the game will be from Silent Hill. That's a coincidence alright?
 

SaneOsprey123

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It's currently happening a livestream for Dead by Daylight and the rumor now is that the new assassin for the game will be from Silent Hill. That's a coincidence alright?
To add to this, a Silent Hill banner was allegedly leaked for Dead by Daylight.
Annd look at the livestream's thumbnail. The "4" for fourth anniversary is strangely shaped like Pyramid Head's helmet.

Dead-by-daylight-1280x720.jpg


From the description of the video: "Expect a look at the upcoming developments and the reveal of Chapter 16 featuring an absolute classic licence of the horror world."
Yeah. We're here boys!
Cross marketing for reboot?
 
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Lord Fanny

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To add to this, a Silent Hill banner was allegedly leaked for Day by Daylight.
Annd look at the livestream's thumbnail. The "4" for fourth anniversary is strangely shaped like Pyramid Head's helmet.

Dead-by-daylight-1280x720.jpg

Cross marketing for reboot?
It's currently happening a livestream for Dead by Daylight and the rumor now is that the new assassin for the game will be from Silent Hill. That's a coincidence alright?

That is interesting. It could be a cross promotion thing but this reboot, granting its reality, won't be out until 2021 at earliest most likely and I imagine this update will be this year. It's probably more Konami just using the license and the two overlapping. Either way, interesting, Dead by Daylight might be the most odd crossover thing ever lol
 

Keym

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Oct 26, 2017
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Wow, the reboot is not even out yet and Konami is already shoving PH down our throats.
 

Lord Fanny

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To add to this, a Silent Hill banner was allegedly leaked for Day by Daylight.
Annd look at the livestream's thumbnail. The "4" for fourth anniversary is strangely shaped like Pyramid Head's helmet.

Dead-by-daylight-1280x720.jpg


From the description of the video: "Expect a look at the upcoming developments and the reveal of Chapter 16 featuring an absolute classic licence of the horror world."
Yeah. We're here boys!
Cross marketing for reboot?

So do you know how legit this leaks by daylight website is? Every time I click on the link they have it takes me it just gives me a security warning on my phone lol. Have they leaked stuff in the past that was legit?
 

CenturionNami

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The stream for the reveal is going to be soon, so we'll know in about thirty minutes if the leak is real.
 

Lord Fanny

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I've never played that game, not really my thing, but the crossovers it has is kind of incredible. Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Saw, Scream, Evil Dead, Stranger Things, and now maybe Silent Hill in one game. Wild
 

plagiarize

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I wouldn't read too much into a Dead by Daylight thing having any relation to anything else. It's never seemed to herald anything in the past.

That said, dream big, dream hard, and will these fucking titles into existence. I can't put faith into much right now, least of all anything SH related after years and years of worse than nothing. I want at least one promising SH game to be confirmed, but I can't trust any signs that its real until it is.
 

Rowsdower

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So does this lend more credence to the rumours? I hope yes. Otherwise seems random as hell to make a Silent Hill killer and survivor in 2020.
 

Lord Fanny

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So does this lend more credence to the rumours? I hope yes. Otherwise seems random as hell to make a Silent Hill killer and survivor in 2020.

I mean, honestly, I doubt it does because Dead by Daylight has no association with Sony and they have had a random assortment of horror IPs, including those that have been inactive for years. But if you're already 100% convinced the rumor is true, then yeah, it's does I imagine
 

KatharsisT

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Before some people ask (because I know some will) this announcement is absolutely not related to the Silent Hill reboot developped by Japan Studio.
 

Chumunga64

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What some users don't get in this thread is that games at Konami were made by people. Toyama and Naoko Sato created Silent Hill together. Hiroyuki Owaku co-wrote the story for Silent Hill 1 along with Toyama and Naoko Sato.

Metal Gear Solid was not only made by Hideo Kojima his concept is from Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake but he didn't make Metal Gear Solid by himself as some fanboys believe. It was made by a team before Kojima become a rockstar.

Kojima wouldn't have pulled off Metal Gear Solid if it wasn't for Takashi Mizutani, So Toyota and Tomokazu Fukushima. You can always find talented programmers somewhere, but these three were artists and pretty much behind what MGS trilogy become. ZOE was sluggish until So Toyota jumped onboard ZOE2 project (Bigger, faster).

The first MGS project for PS1 these three artists did more heavy work than others. But they have no intention to work on a licensed IP at Japan Studio. They will work on a new IP. Games are team effort and not by a single man. That's what KCE japan and KCET were all about before KDE in 2005. Konami Digital Entertainment teared apart gaming and if you work in KCE japan team before and was now part of Kojima Productions you were pretty safe. Others had to work in Konami's casinos, gym clubs. Staff who left after MGS4 parted ways with Kojima. Yutaka Negishi left after MGSR due to issues with Kojima. Takahiro Omori left due to Kojima. Shinta Nojiri left Kojima Productions to work on something else at Konami and we got NeverDead, now he is creative producer in the mobile department.

Toyama's team is one team at Japan Studio. They have a finite numbered of teams did Shuhei Yoshida said in 2017. They are very CAREFUL to invest in bigger console games. Hence why we got what they had in store for PS4 and things people ask them for takes time is what Shu is trying to say in that IGN interview. Allan Becker has said many times this studio fell behind with technology in the PS2 days so they are really starting to build that back up with PS4 gen without results in the current gen. He was talking about things what is happening behind the scenes and not what we have now and for consumers to see.

Dengeki PlayStation's higher-up staff have spent the entire PS4 generation asking about if Japan Studio is ever going to make AAA games. Sony is aware of this so don't be impatient and have your head in the sand as if this studio only has Silent Hill as a project.

whoa, this all sounds interesting. why did so many people leave due to kojima?
 

Kunjiru

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So Dead by Deadlight DLC, huh? That's probably the most disappointing gaming related thing I've heard in a long time. I really hope that's not the only SH thing happening...and if not, well, what a shame
 
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