The MS buying EA one was based of literally wishful thinking and it didn't get locked, so nothing new.
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Rumor/Speculation: Market speculates that Sony could buy Take Two (SEE UPDATE IN OP)
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Think of it this way, though, Sony has a streaming platform. That alone gives access to a huge number of people even without specific Nintendo or Xbox support.
In addition, Rockstar/2K games would no longer be subject to license fees. If they kept a game PlayStation/PC, the lost sales just on Xbox is probably a wash in terms of revenue because of how much a first party saves in platform splits/fees compared to the same game for a third party on PlayStation/PC/Xbox.
To me there's just too much strategic value to excising Xbox support from big franchises like NBA2K, GTA and Read Dead, compared to any potential sales on Xbox. Arranging a purchase like this at all doesn't make sense if you don't think about the strategic advantage.
Yet it is Microsoft who will continue to put the games on PC, Sony who knows. Also be careful what you wish for, a powerful Sony has already displayed it's reluctance to play with others. So the more they pull ahead of Nintendo and Microsoft the less likely they will listen to developers wishes on things like crossplay and more chances they strike exclusive deals with third party.
1.) Revenue is not the same as profit. According to Thurrott, up until 2017 the Xbox had never been profitable. I don't know how much truth there is to that, or if that's now changed, but without figures on Xbox profit, we simply can't know. Nadella's use of language wasn't entirely specific. They're certainly making a lot of acquisitions of late, plus building new studios, infrastructure, R&D etc, so the investment and capital spend can't exactly be cheap, thus further off-setting that revenue.
Thurrott said:
https://www.petri.com/paul-thurrotts-short-takes-microsoft-earnings-special-edition-7
2.) I think Microsoft is giving Xbox another big push, but it's impossible to gauge confidence till we see the fruits of this newfound labour. None of the acquisitions of recent months have been close to as large as the ones we're now discussing, hence we're talking about an entirely different level of investment and risk. There was that titbit recently about how Game Pass is underperforming, so again, if there's any truth to that, this new found push and investment could still end up being short lived.
3.) They're still considerably bigger than any of the recent ones Microsoft has made.
4.) Yes, that much is clear, but how much risk and investment they're willing to put in or take before they start seeing profit and results is an entirely different thing altogether. You're not talking about acquisitions in the tens or even hundreds of millions, but billions, hence it's a different level of risk. Xbox's track record in recent years or generations hasn't exactly been the greatest, so it isn't going to be the easiest thing to sell to investors and shareholders, many of whom who probably already lack confidence in Xbox versus some of the competition.
Yeah, right! This is even crazier than the MS buying EA rumor that started a few months ago. What a ridiculous bit!
I never thought in my youth that this day would come but I could not care less about games from Take Two. i hated GTA 4, Hated GTA 5, did not enjoy RDR. If I can't buy their games it would not impact my life :S
To think that to me, until PS3, Metal Gear Solid and GTA were a must buy for every console that I owned.
To think that to me, until PS3, Metal Gear Solid and GTA were a must buy for every console that I owned.
Interesting point about a move like this being less about stifiling console competition and more about warding off a Big Tech invasion of the market.
(Still don't believe it's true, but it makes sense)
Isomniac don't want to bought? Source?
And your point about MS acquisitions being relatively small is factualy incorrect no platform has made the same yearly 1st party investment as MS have done in the last 20yrs or possibly in all time.
The initiative saying they want to stay small and agile needs more context I mean Naughty dog are small and agile compared to other devs.
The initiative is founded on talented people with experience working mainly on 100-300 people teams, so I would say the initiative will evolve into a 100-200 person team. It would be abnormal to hire the people they hired for a 30-50 ppl team, the 20 or so people are producers, lead designers, recruiter, directors etc they still have to hire the artists and coders which make the bulk of a studio.
The "AAAA" was mentioned on some job listing, I would not read to much into it.
Even if it happens (huge fucking if) you shouldn't be surprised if Sony loses such licenses. Organizations like the NBA and WWE probably want their licensed games on as much platforms as possible, not just PlayStation.
Yes. The important thing to remember is that 2K/Take Two possess a number of game series of great interest to PC gamers. Even BioShock, which was System Shock, but heavily simplified for the console market, has its roots in PC gaming. Not to mention heavy PC-focused hitters such as Civilization or XCom.
If Microsoft purchased 2K/Take Two, life would go on as usual because MS are 100% dedicated to PC gaming to the point of making the astonishing decision to put Halo MCC on Steam, their competitor's storefront. Sony? Sony's support for PC has always been extremely, extremely spotty. The moment Sony is involved with a game, the PC version either gets a long delay or disappears forever.
A console manufacturer buying Firaxis would be the worst thing ever. I don't want to see the Civilization series end.
It also goes against what PlayStation have done in the past.
Sony's first party has been built over decades buying studios sparingly and building some studious from the ground up.
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Why? If it was 130 a share it would be roughly 14B. It would be much
When you sre rolling in cash and doing well IS when you sell a company if profit is what you want. Selling when you are doin
cheaper to buy just Rockstar.
14B reasons.
Can't they just make more than what Sony would offer by selling games on 3 consoles than cashing out?
One of Sony's most profitable business is financing I believe.
I mean it's possible. Sony is going to get their next influx of cash from Days Gone, Death Stranding, Ghost of Tsushima and TLoU II so they will be worth at least a couple of billions more in the next 2 years.
Depends but not really
GTA cost hundreds of millions to make, and the actual income and profit get so pieced out that a straight buyout is way more directly into the potential sellers pockets.
Take two has alot of ips and no one is talking about making any games exclusives. It's very likely that for an acquisition of this magnitude many of the top games will stay multi to make it worth it.
well maybe they will force rockstar to care about their other franchises like Max Payne, Bully etc. and not only GTAO like in the good days.
Hopefully they would encourage them to make new IP that are better than Max Payne
Why would that happen?
I'm mocking the other people that are unironically in GameFaqs mode, yes.
They haven't even released it yet on PC but are 100% dedicated?
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