[RUMOR] Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic “Reimagining” in the works.

SofNascimento · Jan 24, 2020

Asbsand said:
Another plus for EA and another downhill for Disney. Such a strange turn the Star Wars controversiathon took.

What I mean is, EA was the laughing stock because of their cancelled games and BF2's launch, while Disney were plowing ahead with Rogue One and TFA. Then TLJ came out and it was divisive, then ROS came out and it was generic crap.

And in that time Fallen Order came out and Battlefront 2 turned around, now Fallen Order 2 is underway, a rumored KOTOR revival and Disney just said they're rewriting their Obi Wan show.

It just feels like suddenly game-starwars is in a huge upswing and Disney's management is in a horrible state. They almost had no right to make that phonecall that allegedly got EA's grubbiest fingers off the brand, but I'm glad they did that.

I wouldn't say EA is doing that well. It took them years to release their first single player Star Wars and it's only good. Maybe very good if you're feeling particularly kind. It's a by the numbers game that is only better than that approach might have otherwise lead to because of the talented people involved.

And of course, KoTOR isn't exactly a plus right now. It's a rumored possible plus.

Plasma · Jan 24, 2020

BAD said:
Hmm does EA even have time to finish a project like this during the license?

I'm pretty sure they'll get an extension, all the games they've made have sold well and they seem to be on the way to putting out more of them at this point.

Mr.Deadshot · Jan 24, 2020

Remakes are the new remasters. Fuck that. Give me new experiences.

TheBaldwin · Jan 24, 2020

Id just want them to keep everything the same, except to expand the environments, redo the combat, and completely new graphics

if they replace voice actors I would be furious

Deleted member 8196 · Jan 24, 2020

BAD said:
Hmm does EA even have time to finish a project like this during the license?

Who says EA will lose the license?

No matter how people will try to spin it, both Battlefront 1 and 2 were successfull, EA boosting about sales to investors is a rare thing so when they did it's clear that they are satisfied and Jedi Fallen Order also sold really well and SWOTOR keeps getting updated, slowly sure, but it keeps making enough money to sustain itself and be profitable.

Who knows? EA has still 3-4 years and we know that they have AT LEAST 2 new Star Wars game (EA Motive and Jedi Fallen Order sequel).

Asbsand · Jan 24, 2020

SofNascimento said:
It took them years to release their first single player Star Wars and it's only good.

...According to Metacritic.

I fucking loved it.

mgrimble2 · Jan 24, 2020

Please sweet baby Jebus be true!

Fuchsia · Jan 24, 2020

Oozer said:
Jason Schreier mentioned Bioware Austin briefly working on a KOTOR project a while back, but said it had been put on ice. From November 2017:

The article in the OP makes it sounds like this new rumor is a continuation of that project.

Back in 2017, Liam Robertson called the project a "sort of remake/revival" which is pretty close to this new characterization. So this is likely Bioware Austin, and that seems like a good thing. They did, and are still doing, a great job with the Old Republic MMO.

The writer is a well known Star Wars leaker. He's been pretty accurate in the past.

The source article covers this. The author is well aware that there's also a High republic game in the works.

Ah thank you! I should've read the actual article. My bad. Exciting.

Cosmic Voyager · Jan 24, 2020

BAD said:
In fairness, that's new for Marvel isn't it? Their stuff like Marvel Ultimate Alliance and Spider-Man were all exclusive to Activision until like 2014, a while after the Star Wars deal. So it's not like Marvel was way ahead of the game since they still had a deal like this when the EA Star Wars deal happened, right?

Oh yeah, for sure. I believe that change in mantra came with Jay Ong being brought onboard to head up the gaming division. Until that point we were getting tons of shitty mobile games and movie tie-ins.

Ong spent a few years refocusing things and meeting with devs, and we're just now starting to see the fruits of his labors with Spider-Man, Ultimate Alliance 3, Avengers, and Iron Man VR. Not to mention the Guardians of the Galaxy game that eventually will be announced by Eidos Montreal and the untitled game that just got announced by Second Dinner a couple weeks ago.

Here's a pretty good interview with Ong from 2016:

https://venturebeat.com/2016/06/16/...-return-to-blockbuster-games-with-spider-man/

Deleted member 54073 · Jan 24, 2020

After Anthem and Andromeda I find it hard to be excited about anything Bioware these days but third times a charm I suppose!

Dartastic · Jan 24, 2020

Bluepoint handling this maybe?

Dandy · Jan 24, 2020

I'd love this, as long as it's a party-based RPG like the original.

CrichtonKicks · Jan 24, 2020

I'm kind of dubious when they mention integrating Sith Lords. I'm not sure anything there really needs integration. All of the obvious hooks that you want brought into canon for future use come from the first game. Sith Lords is so good because it's a long, deep dive into the philosophies of the force. That's not something you can just kind of graze and nip a few elements from.

yankeeh8er · Jan 24, 2020

Stygr said:
Who says EA will lose the license?

No matter how people will try to spin it, both Battlefront 1 and 2 were successfull, EA boosting about sales to investors is a rare thing so when they did it's clear that they are satisfied and Jedi Fallen Order also sold really well and SWOTOR keeps getting updated, slowly sure, but it keeps making enough money to sustain itself and be profitable.

Who knows? EA has still 3-4 years and we know that they have AT LEAST 2 new Star Wars game (EA Motive and Jedi Fallen Order sequel).

No one ever bring up Galaxy of Heroes when talking about the EA Star Wars game, but that game is great and also prints money.

rras1994 · Jan 24, 2020

yankeeh8er said:
No one ever bring up Galaxy of Heroes when talking about the EA Star Wars game, but that game is great and also prints money.

As I don't think it's part of it's exclusivity license for Star Wars as that only covers consoles and PC, and Galaxy of Heros is a mobile game?

dgrdsv · Jan 24, 2020

KrAzEd said:
Still can't believe we haven't gotten another KOTOR game in 16 years!!!!!!! It's guaranteed to make buckets of cash, EA's strategy was absolute dog shit. Rogue Squadron reimagining, KOTOR reimagining, Jedi Knight reimagining...easy money

Battlefront reimagining is easier.

yankeeh8er · Jan 24, 2020

rras1994 said:
As I don't think it's part of it's exclusivity license for Star Wars as that only covers consoles and PC, and Galaxy of Heros is a mobile game?

Oh weird, I just assumed all Star Wars games are covered. I am shocked that other devs dont bring out SW mobile games after the huge success of Galaxy of Heroes.

Tovarisc · Jan 24, 2020

Hmm..?

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1220792386550489088

LastNac · Jan 24, 2020

Wulfram said:
KotOR 2 has worse story, worse writing, much worse characters and it even manages to have worse gameplay despite KotOR 1 having poor gameplay to start with. If it was finished properly it would still be only average.

Hold. UP.
KotOR is my favorite game ever, but KotOR 2 is better written.

Lifejumper · Jan 24, 2020

Tovarisc said:
Hmm..?

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1220792386550489088

Oh motherfucking snap

SUPRVLLAN · Jan 24, 2020

Cool, never got to play the OG back in the day.

Dysun · Jan 24, 2020

I would love a remake. My only hope is that new BioWare be far removed from the project

John Harker · Jan 24, 2020

Stygr said:
Who says EA will lose the license?

No matter how people will try to spin it, both Battlefront 1 and 2 were successfull, EA boosting about sales to investors is a rare thing so when they did it's clear that they are satisfied and Jedi Fallen Order also sold really well and SWOTOR keeps getting updated, slowly sure, but it keeps making enough money to sustain itself and be profitable.

Who knows? EA has still 3-4 years and we know that they have AT LEAST 2 new Star Wars game (EA Motive and Jedi Fallen Order sequel).

see my previous post

AlexFlame116 · Jan 24, 2020

Tovarisc said:
Hmm..?

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1220792386550489088

Oh my gosh please please please

HK-47 · Jan 24, 2020

CrichtonKicks said:
I'm kind of dubious when they mention integrating Sith Lords. I'm not sure anything there really needs integration. All of the obvious hooks that you want brought into canon for future use come from the first game. Sith Lords is so good because it's a long, deep dive into the philosophies of the force. That's not something you can just kind of graze and nip a few elements from.

There is no way the story team allow any serious questioning of the Force in the way Sith Lords did.

Huntersknoll · Jan 24, 2020

I don't think I am ready if this is real.

Mdot · Jan 24, 2020

♡♪!? said:
Kotor is almost 20 years old now and people want to replay it but with modern techonlogy, making the world more alive, and maybe reintroducing it to their kid. It shouldn't be hard to understand

It's not hard to understand. It's also not hard to understand my opinion that I personally would prefer the resources being used on a brand new game. Just my feeling about it, no offense intended.

Cosmic Voyager · Jan 24, 2020

Tovarisc said:
Hmm..?

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1220792386550489088

Can someone compile a list of every rumor that people have tweeted at him? I don't have the Twitter know-how or I'd do it myself

Cosmic Voyager · Jan 24, 2020

Dartastic said:
Bluepoint handling this maybe?

Shinobi said no to that

cognizant · Jan 24, 2020

Played KOTOR for the first time last year and loved it. Now I'm wondering whether to avoid playing KOTOR 2 and wait for this remake thing instead...

Breqesk · Jan 24, 2020

cognizant said:
Played KOTOR for the first time last year and loved it. Now I'm wondering whether to avoid playing KOTOR 2 and wait for this remake thing instead...

You really should play KotOR II. It's an incredible game, and besides, this doesn't sound like it's actually going to be a remake so much as a completely new game that'll borrow some characters and plot ideas from the existing games.

I doubt it'll be anywhere near as weird as KotOR II.

YaBish · Jan 24, 2020

IIRC Shinobi was somewhat in the know at BioWare, (at least around the time of Andromeda) so it would make sense he would know of the games existence.

Hope people don't badger him about it though.

TheRaidenPT · Jan 24, 2020

Please I can't take it...

KOTR return and a Mass Effect trilogy remaster?

cognizant · Jan 24, 2020

Breqesk said:
You really should play KotOR II. It's an incredible game, and besides, this doesn't sound like it's actually going to be a remake so much as a completely new game that'll borrow some characters and plot ideas from the existing games.

I doubt it'll be anywhere near as weird as KotOR II.

Yeeeah, screw it, I'll play KOTOR II then.

tekomandor · Jan 25, 2020

CrichtonKicks said:
I'm kind of dubious when they mention integrating Sith Lords. I'm not sure anything there really needs integration. All of the obvious hooks that you want brought into canon for future use come from the first game. Sith Lords is so good because it's a long, deep dive into the philosophies of the force. That's not something you can just kind of graze and nip a few elements from.

TSL has a bunch of Mandolorian Wars stuff + more info on Revan. That's what I'd pull into a K1 remake from it, at least.

Ushay · Jan 25, 2020

Tovarisc said:
Hmm..?

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1220792386550489088

Be still my gentle, this is too much to handle.
KOTOR remake and ME remake is too much man..

FantasticMrSnake · Jan 25, 2020

Spyder_Monkey said:
Bluepoint KoTR > Bluepoint Demon's Souls

Bluepoint Kotor >>>> bluepoint anything's else

fourfourfun · Jan 25, 2020

I really didn't like the combat, I really didn't like the turgid NPC dialogue and dark side dialogue = I'm a bit of a dick. If that can all be tightened up, then a big win.

Lifejumper · Jan 25, 2020

http://www.cinelinx.com/news/culture/canon-vs-legends-whats-what-in-knights-of-the-old-republic/

SofNascimento · Jan 23, 2021

1 year later, the plot is slight more thick:

Star Wars Reportedly Working on New Knights of the Old Republic Video Game

A new Knights of the Old Republic game is in the works, according to a podcast by Bespin Bulletin.

thedirect.com

In a recent episode of Bob The Podcast, Bespin Bulletin has revealed that a new Knights of the Old Republic title is under development by an unknown developer.

Throughout the episode, the host speculates that it will not be a remake of the original two games, and instead will be its own "definitive story."

There is a Knights of the Old Republic project in development somewhere, I talked to a couple of people, and I also found out that Jason Schreier, he said that it's not with EA. We will never guess who the studio is. It's happening somewhere, it's happening.

I don't know how reliable this is so I didn't think it was worth a new thread.

TreIII · Jan 23, 2021

Bring it on then. I like what I'm seeing of High Republic, but if it was any type of continuation/renewal of KOTOR, it will be something that I "will watch with great interest"!

Xando · Jan 23, 2021

and I also found out that Jason Schreier, he said that it's not with EA. We will never guess who the studio is. It's happening somewhere, it's happening.

Interesting

FakePlasticTree · Jan 23, 2021

Not sure what to think of this, the writing for KOTOR 2 was exceptional and a reboot of those games without the old writers is probably not gonna be living up to the original that I love. If nothing else please don't make it into an action game like any big budget RPG these days, maybe something semi action based like FFXII's gambit system. I feel like the original game's combat could have benefitted with tactical systems like that.

SofNascimento · Jan 23, 2021

Xando said:
Interesting

I think it might be a reference to a post he made here on Era, talking about how no one would ever guess who is developing it. Unless he means he directly spoke with Schreier.

Enduin · Jan 23, 2021

I'm down as long as it's still a party based RPG that isn't Turn Based.

One thing I would wish for is that if it's really an Old Republic game and being brought back inline with canon please please please take inspiration from the actual Old Republic comic when it comes to the visual and tech style. I loved KotoR immensely but the fact that the world and tech all felt like it could take place at the same time as the OT was a major draw back. I greatly appreciate the more distinctive approach their going for with the High Republic, so I'd expect they'd do something similar here.

TreIII · Jan 23, 2021

FakePlasticTree said:
Not sure what to think of this, the writing for KOTOR 2 was exceptional and a reboot of those games without the old writers is probably not gonna be living up to the original that I love.

Well, for reasons that likely go without saying, we're not likely going to get someone like Avellone, again.

But there has to be other good writers out there. The question is if Lucasfilm will let them be as daring, when there's such a firm grasp on what they want the Force to be, nowadays. Stuff like Kreia and her views wouldn't fly with today's story group.

Wowzors · Jan 23, 2021

fourfourfun said:
I really didn't like the combat, I really didn't like the turgid NPC dialogue and dark side dialogue = I'm a bit of a dick. If that can all be tightened up, then a big win.

That's the whole game?

Sargerus · Jan 23, 2021

SofNascimento said:
1 year later, the plot is slight more thick:

Star Wars Reportedly Working on New Knights of the Old Republic Video Game

A new Knights of the Old Republic game is in the works, according to a podcast by Bespin Bulletin.

thedirect.com

I don't know how reliable this is so I didn't think it was worth a new thread.

ERA -> Internet -> ERA

SofNascimento · Jan 23, 2021

Sargerus said:
ERA -> Internet -> ERA

The article says the guy talked with people directly. Unless it's the same guy from the OP then it's one more possible source of the rumor.

Cross-Section · Jan 23, 2021

I'd argue it's wise to go for a clean break and not try to remake the game or rehash its story, but oh, the fanboys will be loud if the requisite Revan fan-service isn't present

Fuck em, I say

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