Pretty much. But I hope it's true.
Pretty much. But I hope it's true.
I'd argue it's wise to go for a clean break and not try to remake the game or rehash its story, but oh, the fanboys will be loud if the requisite Revan fan-service isn't present
Fuck em, I say
Right, like I doubt the narrative of KOTOR 2 will go over well with modern LucasFilms which is my biggest worry.Well, for reasons that likely go without saying, we're not likely going to get someone like Avellone, again.
But there has to be other good writers out there. The question is if Lucasfilm will let them be as daring, when there's such a firm grasp on what they want the Force to be, nowadays. Stuff like Kreia and her views wouldn't fly with today's story group.
you never played the original kotor because if you did you wouldn't be saying thisI'd argue it's wise to go for a clean break and not try to remake the game or rehash its story, but oh, the fanboys will be loud if the requisite Revan fan-service isn't present
Fuck em, I say
the only change i'd make, is to make one of the jedi who joined him in the mandalorian war tar viszlaIF they keep the backstory the same (like within 90% of what's there).
It'll fall flat on its face otherwise IMO.
Imagine not wanting the best SW character to return.I'd argue it's wise to go for a clean break and not try to remake the game or rehash its story, but oh, the fanboys will be loud if the requisite Revan fan-service isn't present
Fuck em, I say
One thing I wonder is if they'd just fully embrace how KOTOR/TOR continues to exist within its own "bubble" within the Old EU/Legends continuity that's still going to this day, and just make a new game in that line. Establish firmly that a new KOTOR game is Legends and has NOTHING to do with the ongoing Disney canon, and just allow the team to make a new game that'll make fans of KOTOR happy.Kotor existed during the wild west of Star Wars when you could pretty much do whatever you wanted as long as you didn't care about Papa Lucas' seal of canon. Now everything has to be rubber stamped multiple times by the mouse. Making even linear stories is like pulling teeth, and has gotten multiple games canceled now from Ea. Imagine making a full scale bioware rpg.
My guess isReally wonder who this developer Jason is referring to is. Someone we'd never expect is an interesting thing to say.
Im just so hungry for a Star Wars RPG.
you never played the original kotor because if you did you wouldn't be saying this
Revan was a player surrogate with a cool mask. There is literally nothing else there besides an off-the-beaten-path conversation with Kreia in 2 where she speculates that he might have been smarter than your average Sith Lord. That's it.
It's not as mysterious as you think. It's just not a household name most people are aware of.Really wonder who this developer Jason is referring to is. Someone we'd never expect is an interesting thing to say.
Im just so hungry for a Star Wars RPG.
Well, there goes my Kojima Productions theory I was moments from posting, lol.It's not as mysterious as you think. It's just not a household name most people are aware of.
It's not as mysterious as you think. It's just not a household name most people are aware of.
What other game got cancelled aside from the one that had major development issues due to trying to create a cinematic third person game meant to be as if not more ambitious than Uncharted 4 with an engine made for FPS games?Kotor existed during the wild west of Star Wars when you could pretty much do whatever you wanted as long as you didn't care about Papa Lucas' seal of canon. Now everything has to be rubber stamped multiple times by the mouse. Making even linear stories is like pulling teeth, and has gotten multiple games canceled now from Ea. Imagine making a full scale bioware rpg.
It's not all that surprising that a literal self insert would be considered one of the best SW characters. Especially with the shocking twist that you were not just a sith lord, but THE sith lord.Revan was a player surrogate with a cool mask. There is literally nothing else there besides an off-the-beaten-path conversation with Kreia in 2 where she speculates that he might have been smarter than your average Sith Lord. That's it.
7 years later, SWTOR made him into a raid boss with poorly-written delusions of grandeur.
It's not as mysterious as you think. It's just not a household name most people are aware of.
1 year later, the plot is slight more thick:
Star Wars Reportedly Working on New Knights of the Old Republic Video Game
A new Knights of the Old Republic game is in the works, according to a podcast by Bespin Bulletin.thedirect.com
I don't know how reliable this is so I didn't think it was worth a new thread.
Could it be Inxile's new AAA game?It's not as mysterious as you think. It's just not a household name most people are aware of.
So a 'God of War 2018' version of Star Wars KOTOR? A game that would feel like a remake/soft reboot while taking into account the lore and events of the previous games?From cinelix
Take with a grain of salt of course....BUT HOLY SHIT IF TRUE
On BioWare's Involvement:
To those worried about BioWare being involved; Austin is maintaining Anthem & working on the supposed 2.0 reboot (plus SWTOR lol), and Edmonton is all in on DA4 *and* early pre-prod on Mass Effect. It's highly unlikely BioWare would be involved in developing this game if this is true. As a matter of fact BioWare hasn't made a Star Wars/un-owned IP since the first KotOR (and the MMO SWTOR). It's the reason they passed on the sequel. They've been focused on their own stuff for over a decade now.
In a way they could be recanonizing kotor if they do it that waySo a 'God of War 2018' version of Star Wars KOTOR? A game that would feel like a remake/soft reboot while taking into account the lore and events of the previous games?
Revan was a player surrogate with a cool mask. There is literally nothing else there besides an off-the-beaten-path conversation with Kreia in 2 where she speculates that he might have been smarter than your average Sith Lord. That's it.
7 years later, SWTOR made him into a raid boss with poorly-written delusions of grandeur.
That sounds like a known independent studio? 🤔It's not as mysterious as you think. It's just not a household name most people are aware of.
the people forget the Exile was forgotten (another audience surrogate) Revan was notThat's an oversimplification. None of that would have mattered if KoTOR's story wasnt as incredible as it is. Of course the player involvement with the character is paramount for their success, but if it was only that, the character legacy would not be what it is.
Also, in terms of KoTOR2, there are many dialogues with many characters that develop Revan, but it's a different vision of Revan. And in some ways parallel to what made the character great.
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Bioware have never unironically ended a game with "Rocks fall, everyone dies,", so I agree with you.To be honest I don't understand the people who are super anti-Bioware but pro-Obsidian. The last truly great RPG Obsidian put out was New Vegas in 2010... the same year Bioware put out Mass Effect 2. In terms of recent releases, I'd argue that Andromeda is just as good a game as (if not better than) The Outer Worlds. Avellone is gone (and shouldn't come back, seeing as he's an abuser), and tbh even the writing on the last game he wrote for them (which I believe was the first PoE) wasn't that hot. Bioware got memed into oblivion about how buggy it's last couple games were, but historically Obsidian outdoes even Bethesda in its reputation for releasing buggy messes. Obsidian to my knowledge has never released a fully 3D RPG that wasn't half broken at release.
I'd take a KOTOR game written by Patrick Weekes in a heartbeat over a KOTOR game written by whoever is working at Obsidian now.
Gonna agree, it was honestly the sequel that made Revan interesting through dialogue with Mandalore, G0-T0 and Kreia you get this idea that Revan was not just a Jedi but also competemt tactician who'd deliberately leave key points of the Republic in tact for conquering and prepare them for another war, and his use of a Sith Academy to turn all of his Jedi fellows against the Jedi etc. In the first game there isn't alot to him other than he went against the wishes of the Council to fight the Mandalorians, and then somehow became a Sith. No thorough explanation for his reasons or motivations especially since the player character's responses boil down to virtuous hero, or Evil dictator depending on your alignment not much nuance compared to the sequel.Revan was a player surrogate with a cool mask. There is literally nothing else there besides an off-the-beaten-path conversation with Kreia in 2 where she speculates that he might have been smarter than your average Sith Lord. That's it.
7 years later, SWTOR made him into a raid boss with poorly-written delusions of grandeur.
I think it comes down to writing quality and gameplay issues, you can see it in bioware with each dragon age, like when they had the site that was there to help you transfer your choices to inquisition, every single one of the sidequests in origins was there and what you did with each option, for dragon age 2 barely half the sidequests were there, now inquisition none of the sidequests outside of the companion ones were meaningful instead they were mostly bad paint by number go here kill this collect this. the meaningful choices that were the main draw of bioware games was relegated to a real time board management bullshit that could take up to 72 hours for 1 to finish. obsidian atleast hasn't done anything like that yetTo be honest I don't understand the people who are super anti-Bioware but pro-Obsidian. The last truly great RPG Obsidian put out was New Vegas in 2010... the same year Bioware put out Mass Effect 2. In terms of recent releases, I'd argue that Andromeda is just as good a game as (if not better than) The Outer Worlds. Avellone is gone (and shouldn't come back, seeing as he's an abuser), and tbh even the writing on the last game he wrote for them (which I believe was the first PoE) wasn't that hot. Bioware got memed into oblivion about how buggy it's last couple games were, but historically Obsidian outdoes even Bethesda in its reputation for releasing buggy messes. Obsidian to my knowledge has never released a fully 3D RPG that wasn't half broken at release.
I'd take a KOTOR game written by Patrick Weekes in a heartbeat over a KOTOR game written by whoever is working at Obsidian now.
I've been thinking about the possibility of that since they are working on two AAA RPGs right now... (The other is the supposed Steampunk one).
you don't know how many people that would piss off, that includes people who enjoy high republic, kotor and that era is to high regarded for them to do this, the idea of bringing bastila, hk-47, jolie, canderous, and revan back in canon only for them to take that rug and pull it out from under us. The backlash would be MASSIVE
It's possible. Brian Fargo said they're working on 2 RPGs. Latest rumors say one of them could be Steampunk but who knows about the other.Microsoft's InXile hunts software lead for 'next-gen' AAA single-player RPG | Windows Central
From a little over a year ago around the same time the rumors started