Sure, but you don't make next gen hardware based on current specifications, you make it based on anticipated future specifications.
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(Rumor) WindowsCentral: Xbox Series X Specs
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That ram amount will become a problem later next gen. I hope we don't have a Skyrim situation again. It's least increase we have seen of a generational leap. This gen we saw 16 times increase of ram. And it was great for games as developers never complained about ram size this gen at all.
With very fast SSDs, RAM shouldn't be a problem. Definitely won't see a repeat of the Skyrim situation as you can't compare PS3 to PS5.
I think we have to ignore the mid gen refreshes when comparing. S has 5 GB of usable RAM, so the jump to 13gb is more than double.
But for sure it's not a huge difference compared to previous gens. The fast SSD means the console will be far less reliant on RAM though as it can stream the assets in quickly only as and when they are needed, instead of storing them in RAM.
Maybe exclusive 16GB for games at least.
This is the smallest RAM bump we've seen yet. The difference between the PS3 and the PS4 is 16X.
Although not sure how much of a difference more than 16GB could make for gaming.
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It says in the article.
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Beastation 5. What a time to be alive.
No idea why they why are clocking the CPU so high though. 3.2ghz should be plenty.
SSD speeds and RAM look to be kind of on the low side. It seems MS is prioritizing framerates while sony might be going with a faster ssd? I expect sony to top out at 15 gb of ram for games.
No idea why they why are clocking the CPU so high though. 3.2ghz should be plenty.
SSD speeds and RAM look to be kind of on the low side. It seems MS is prioritizing framerates while sony might be going with a faster ssd? I expect sony to top out at 15 gb of ram for games.
I'm sure they talked to developers.
With the work into the SSD that Sony and Microsoft is putting in it's probably less reliant on Ram. Are developers complaining about Ram now when they aren't even using all of it?
With the work into the SSD that Sony and Microsoft is putting in it's probably less reliant on Ram. Are developers complaining about Ram now when they aren't even using all of it?
AMD doesn't have hardware Ray tracing. So if Ray tracing is truly in the Ps5 and Xbox, it's going to be a very different method than what we see with Nvidia.
Perhaps we need to look at things more holistically. Not every aspect will be able to make large leaps over the predecessor and RAM speed and bus width also play a large role here.
Keep in mind that the PS3 was widely regarded to have not enough for what the generation demanded and the PS4 came out the gate with double the expectation.
Folks need to look into VRAM and system RAM vs a unified pool of RAM. Saying "most PC GPU's only have 8GB" isn't the right way to compare the two.
It's GDDR6 and a 2080 Ti is a more powerful card that makes due with 11. It doesn't have a CPU to contend with, but there's that extra 2GB Series X has.
AMD is planning on hw rt. So its a possibility for PS5/XSX
That's one of the specs that really don't need to be linear increases though. That's a big misconception.
As memory speeds, storage access speeds, and software/OS optimization changes, needs for massive amounts of RAM diminish. Even in most high-end PC's 32GB of ram is still wild overkill, much less in a focused console.
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+CPU 3.6ghz instead of 3.5ghz
+VRS confirmed. (THIS IS HUGE)
VRS tier 2 offers up to 50% fps increase for negligible graphical trade-off.
Courtesy of resident expert dgrdsv. In combination with the flop efficiencies, the RPM, the conservative rasterizer, VRS the 10TF+ Navi in the new console might actually perform like a 20TF+ Polaris part in certain scenarios. That's not even including the RT/AI capabilities.
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+ 3.6 instead of 3.5
+VRS confirmed. (THIS IS HUGE)
VRS tier 2 offers up to 50% fps increase for negligible graphical trade-off.
Courtesy of resident expert dgrdsv. In combination with the flop efficiencies, the RPM, the conservative rasterizer, VRS the 10TF+ Navi in the new console might actually perform like a 20TF+ Polaris part in certain scenarios. That's not even including the RT/AI capabilities.
Yeah earlier today I was trying to find out what VRS was, seems like it will help a ton with performance and the player probably won't notice a thing.
Even that fastest SSDs are still orders of magnitude slower than RAM.
Big, indeed. This gen is shaping up nicely.+CPU 3.6ghz instead of 3.5ghz
+VRS confirmed. (THIS IS HUGE)
VRS tier 2 offers up to 50% fps increase for negligible graphical trade-off.
Courtesy of resident expert dgrdsv. In combination with the flop efficiencies, the RPM, the conservative rasterizer, VRS the 10TF+ Navi in the new console might actually perform like a 20TF+ Polaris part in certain scenarios. That's not even including the RT/AI capabilities.
I see a lot if people plan to do a lot if 4K video editing with the series x.
13 GB is fine, RAM hasnt been a bottleneck this gen at all.
13 GB is fine, RAM hasnt been a bottleneck this gen at all.
In his original report he also said Anaconda (Series X) would be clocked slightly higher.
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16GB might sound good, but that's shared between the CPU and GPU, so 24GB would have been better.
A decent PC has 16GB, but also has a video card with 8GB as well. RAM isn't too expensive these days.
Probably not as cheap, but if they just gave GDDR6 to the GPU, they could have needed less of it. Then they could use DDR4 for the rest of the system.
But if you can fill RAM incredibly quickly you can design games to use less of it; assuming CPU usage during filling isn't high.
Isn't it remored that PS5 has an SSD capable of 20GB/s read speed?
Also does this spec sheet confirms that Xbox is using classic RDNA and not RDNA2 or whatever I read on Twitter the other day?
Also does this spec sheet confirms that Xbox is using classic RDNA and not RDNA2 or whatever I read on Twitter the other day?
13GB of usable RAM? Yikes, reminds me of this
https://www.playstationlifestyle.ne...ram-on-ps4-you-are-done-said-randy-pitchford/
https://www.playstationlifestyle.ne...ram-on-ps4-you-are-done-said-randy-pitchford/
You're correct. This 'rumor' (completely fabricated nonsense) seems to suggest it'll have a discrete CPU & GPU -- don't think they're going to pay for that...
The 16GB RAM makes me think whomever fabricated this rumor doesn't know much about computers. 16GB would be anemic for next gen assets.
Rumored, yeah. Whether it's true remains to be seen though.
As far as RAM goes MS stated before that they needed more than 3gb of RAM to get the dashboard to render in 4k on the X, If they want to get a 4k dashboard and have enough memory to allow multiple games to suspend/resume, 3gb won't be enough.
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It has HW RT + VRS, so it really doesn't matter what RDNA it's using.
