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Rumor: Xbox Elite Controller v2 details

Oct 28, 2017
2,803
Here's my wish list for Elite v2:
Customized Colors
No battery built in
Detachable bumpers
Bluetooth
Increase durability

DASSIT! Really simple. I will buy a second Elite when i get my X.
 
Oct 25, 2017
386
I still have my launch elite. Love it. Can't see myself upgrading, especially if it's a built in battery. That's a no sell for me. I hate that I have to plug in my PS4 controller to charge it. Just let me throw in batteries and go instead of halting my planned gaming until it's charged. I paid $150 for the controller, it should last the generation. Not die due to a crap battery.
 
Oct 26, 2017
196
USA
I still have my launch elite. Love it. Can't see myself upgrading, especially if it's a built in battery. That's a no sell for me. I hate that I have to plug in my PS4 controller to charge it. Just let me throw in batteries and go instead of halting my planned gaming until it's charged. I paid $150 for the controller, it should last the generation. Not die due to a crap battery.
I'm with you. I bought a pack of rechargeables and just swap out when it dies. If anything they should have change the switch to a dial and have the ability to hold 10-20 profiles on the controller. Maybe go all out with a screen and have 100 profiles.
 
Nov 2, 2017
2,652
I genuinely cant believe people would rather have batteries than built in. You can charge it while you use it.
And when the battery dies?

I can have 2 pairs of rechargeable batteries. One in the controller the others charging. Means I can always, always play wireless, never run out of batteries and when my batteries die I can buy a simple new pair. There is literally no reason in 2018 to put a non-detachable battery in a controller.
 
Nov 14, 2017
4,773
Have you been under a rock the last two weeks?
- Halo 6 will have massive player counts in multiplayer (much higher than Halo 5) and massive maps
- Fable reboot by Playground Games
- Perfect Dark is getting rebooted with modern gameplay elements, The Coalition seems to be using a small support team on it with a different team MAINLY developing it.
- Microsoft wants to reboot NBA Jam
- Crackdown 3 Beta is coming very soon
- A mech game is getting made exclusively for Xbox One and Windows 10
- Electric Square is working on AAA well-known franchise for Microsoft
- Storylabs put a post up accidentally showing that The Coalition and Storylabs was helping on a new IP (although there’s speculation that they just meant a IP not Gears of War and this could indeed be Perfect Dark)
- Rare might be doing something for 20th anniversary of Banjo (either a cameo in an existing game or a remaster of the original game — this could literally be ANYTHING so don’t get too hyped for this one)
- WindowsCentral reported that Microsoft was working on a hardware project codenamed Project Scarlet
- Elite Controller 2.0 now leaked (and probably is Scarlet)

DISCLAIMER: I’m not an insider. I just have been following all the leaks.

This is a lot of shit in two weeks you have to admit.
I have not seen any of these threads wtf
 
Oct 27, 2017
225
I genuinely cant believe people would rather have batteries than built in. You can charge it while you use it.
In my set up I would need a ~12ft of cable to play where I normally sit while charging and then it becomes a trip hazard. If it was a base $60 I wouldn't mind getting 2 like my PS4 so I could just switch when it dies. But for a $150 controller that is just too much.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,071
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Please, for the love of all that is holy in this world, change the God damn USB connection on the controller! Why in the hell would MS choose something so flimsy for such an expensive piece of hardware?!
 
Oct 25, 2017
720
I genuinely cant believe people would rather have batteries than built in. You can charge it while you use it.
The built in batteries on both of my ps4 controllers are about half capacity of what they used to be, and I can’t do anything about it. I can replace rechargeable AA batteries when they decide to crap out. So do I want to buy a new controller when the battery shits the bed or just have to buy new batteries?
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,201
Australia
Non removable batteries are a step back. As for everything else I’m kind of disappointed. Going off the controller patents Microsoft has gotten recently I expected some more significant customisation, like swapping the triggers and adjusting the tension to the thumb sticks.
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,063
Please, for the love of all that is holy in this world, change the God damn USB connection on the controller! Why in the hell would MS choose something so flimsy for such an expensive piece of hardware?!
Did you read the OP?

Or what part of USB-C and Magsafe did you not understand?
 

LAA

Member
Oct 28, 2017
392
One annoyance I hope they fix with this model is where you release the joystick and it registers being pushed in the opposite direction, made cuphead unplayable with the joystick really.
Nothing else particularly pushes me to want it desperately, but it does seem cool.
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,063
Does "undetachable" mean you can't replace the battery? Shit, even Nintendo's Pro Controllers have removable batteries.
It's a weird choice, not that it matters as I use play and charge anyway, I just hope this means a bigger battery than what they currently offer.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,071
Sao Paulo, Brazil
Did you read the OP?

Or what part of USB-C and Magsafe did you not understand?
I just don't want them to break. Saying they are changing to USB-C and Magsafe doesn't guarantee they won't be fragile. Look at the PS4 controller, same USB connection as the One/Elite and yet not nearly as fragile or breakable as the One/Elite.

I like the Xbox One controller, I use it for PC gaming, and I lost 3 controllers because not only did the pack-in cable break (not a problem), but the connector on the controller broke too (big problem). I live in fear of my Elite breaking too, and I don't want that anymore.

I just want something that will last.
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,063
I just don't want them to break. Saying they are changing to USB-C and Magsafe doesn't guarantee they won't be fragile. Look at the PS4 controller, same USB connection as the One/Elite and yet not nearly as fragile or breakable as the One/Elite.

I like the Xbox One controller, I use it for PC gaming, and I lost 3 controllers because not only did the pack-in cable break (not a problem), but the connector on the controller broke too (big problem). I live in fear of my Elite breaking too, and I don't want that anymore.

I just want something that will last.
I still don't think you understand, there won't be a usb connector in the controller, it will have a magsafe style connector...

I already did it on my pads to save that connector.
Excuse the obnoxious music
 
Oct 28, 2017
3,573
Brazil
The Paddles: Never used them so far, don't care.
Try and make the effort to use them. They are by far the best part about the controller.

3-level trigger locks: 2 levels are godly in Forza (you can lock your brake trigger and you will only ever brake 60 %, no lockups without ABS) but also a curse. Going back to F1 2017 I often have the problem of forgetting my trigger is locked, so I run straight off. I don't think more than 2 levels are needed, especially since a lot of games only recognize an almost full press.
The trigger locks really shine when you adjust the curve of the analog triggers. Cutting them at say 60% has it uses, but I also have a shooter configuration that almost treats the trigger as a non analog button, it goes from 0 to 100% when it's really close to the physical stop. That way I can have short bursts without almost not moving my finger out of the analog, which also gives more precision, as I can have a steadier aim when my right finger barely moves.

3 profiles: I have two, but I only ever use one. Can't think of anything where I would need three. I use to forget what the settings are on each, currently I have my standard profile and one for Forza with clutch. Microsoft should man up and give us the system wide stick inversion preference we had on Xbox 360 that's been missing now for four years on Xbox One. But at this point I don't really care anymore. That would be a much more meaningful upgrade than having three profiles on the controller and still having to switch inversion ingame.
Now this is a addition that I don't like as well. Sending the profile to the controller have one exact desirable use: So you can use the controller in non supported platforms using the adapter.

Anything else (as in, playing on Xbox or on a Win10 PC) it would be better off if they used that accessories app to detect the game you are playing and adjust the correct mapping tied to that game. Which would also allow different setups for apps and what not. Ms really dropped the ball on not fixing it on the v2.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,605
I genuinely cant believe people would rather have batteries than built in. You can charge it while you use it.
I was digging through my controller bags to find a DualShock 3 to when I had some friends over a couple nights ago. Grabbed the first one and plugged it into a wall with the short usb I had on hand, but it wasn't compatible with that setup and did not charge. I then moved the main chair absurdly close to the console and tried charging it from the PS3; again, I had no luck and the controller remained off.

Turns out the battery was dead, and while it's great the DS3 does work without a battery installed I wasn't about to break out screwdrivers. Thankfully my other controller was fine and we left it plugged into the console while we got something to eat. On the other hand when I wanted to use my (AA required) Wavebird controller all I had to do was grab my Eneloop batteries and pop them in. Rechargeable can be great for a time but I find them to be a pain in the long term.
 
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Oct 30, 2017
759
I was looking to get another one at some point, so will definitely wait for this to release, especially if they've improved the build quality of the bumpers. My LB snapped on mine (still useable though), but it's still better to use than the original pad. Will make sure I get an extended warranty this time!
 

MCD

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,216
Here's my wish list for Elite v2:
Customized Colors
No battery built in
Detachable bumpers
Bluetooth
Increase durability

DASSIT! Really simple. I will buy a second Elite when i get my X.
Some shops like Game UK sell Elite in colors so it's possible.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,758
Undetachable batteries should have made their way to standard controllers as well a long time ago. The first XONE controller I got with the console had massive sync problems, because the batteries weren't fully secure in place and they could stop working when the vibrations kicked in or when you put it down.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,658
The Paddles: Never used them so far, don't care.
Ahh my man, what are you doing? They are game changers, ie in Halo 5 i can jump, boost, move, aim and shoot all at the same time, nearly impossible without paddles, in Witcher 3/PuBG i bring up the menu screen without having to move my thumbs away from the sticks.

Experiment, i cant go back to non paddle controllers for serious gaming.
 

ghostcrew

Spooky
Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
6,683
United Kingdom
I genuinely cant believe people would rather have batteries than built in. You can charge it while you use it.
This is like when people were making out that they were ok with PS4 not supporting external drives because swapping out the entire internal HDD was better anyway.

I dunno how hyped I am for an Elite v2. My current Elite is going strong and it's pretty much all I use. You know what? Being able to swap colours like on the Design Lab controllers might be enough to make me get a second. That list of improvements aren't really enough for my to upgrade. But maybe this isn't meant as an upgrade? It's just the replacement Elite. They'll get rid of the old one.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,604
Big pass with non removable battery as I already have an Elite controller using Eneloops. I don't want what's basically a non replaceable battery.
 
Nov 8, 2017
2,162
I genuinely cant believe people would rather have batteries than built in. You can charge it while you use it.
The price of the plug n charge kit + xb1 pad is the same as the ps4 controller here, so the Xbox has all the same functionality per dollar, except with the ability to use standard rechargeable or disposable batteries as well.

I used to think like you, didn't realise why it might be handy, but now I realise it is the best of both worlds. Long term it also guarantees the controllers can easily have batteries replaced by the user once the charge goes to shit years down the line.
 

FairyEmpire

Banned
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,862
The built in batteries on both of my ps4 controllers are about half capacity of what they used to be, and I can’t do anything about it. I can replace rechargeable AA batteries when they decide to crap out. So do I want to buy a new controller when the battery shits the bed or just have to buy new batteries?
Exactly, batteries will forever remain more convenient long-term unless you play in short bursts and always remember to charge, which kinda happens with my Pro Controller for the Switch which I don't think has ever been below 75%.

Awesome avatar btw.
 
I'd argue most consumers would think that a premium product has a built-in-battery rather than needing AA batteries.

Also, my launch PS4 controller still works. They don't die after a year, guys.
I'm not spending $150+ on an entertainment product that has a guaranteed shitout date. Phones are bad enough but necessary for modern Life; a fancy controller is not.

Like, include a rechargeable pack that you can swap out of need be. It doesn't have to be permanent.
 
Nov 1, 2017
47
No buy for me if it has built-in batteries, I want to be able to use my controller in 4-5 years without having to charge every 3-4 hours due to capacity loss.
The best solution would be to include a rechargeable battery pack.
 

Omnipotent

Self-requested ban
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,613
I understand why you would want them, just not why one would prefer it. I guess losing charge over time is fair but, i find battery controllers to be an inconvenience as someone who doesnt use many battery operated things, i dont have tons of spare batteries around the house. So if my battery operated controller dies, ive gotta run down to the store to get more. If my chargable controller dies, i plug it into the wall and keep playing.
 
Dec 15, 2017
304
Have you been under a rock the last two weeks?
- Halo 6 will have massive player counts in multiplayer (much higher than Halo 5) and massive maps
- Fable reboot by Playground Games
- Perfect Dark is getting rebooted with modern gameplay elements, The Coalition seems to be using a small support team on it with a different team MAINLY developing it.
- Microsoft wants to reboot NBA Jam
- Crackdown 3 Beta is coming very soon
- A mech game is getting made exclusively for Xbox One and Windows 10
- Electric Square is working on AAA well-known franchise for Microsoft
- Storylabs put a post up accidentally showing that The Coalition and Storylabs was helping on a new IP (although there’s speculation that they just meant a IP not Gears of War and this could indeed be Perfect Dark)
- Rare might be doing something for 20th anniversary of Banjo (either a cameo in an existing game or a remaster of the original game — this could literally be ANYTHING so don’t get too hyped for this one)
- WindowsCentral reported that Microsoft was working on a hardware project codenamed Project Scarlet
- Elite Controller 2.0 now leaked (and probably is Scarlet)

DISCLAIMER: I’m not an insider. I just have been following all the leaks.

This is a lot of shit in two weeks you have to admit.
What exaclty is Project Scarlet?