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Rumor: Xbox Elite Controller v2 details

Nov 2, 2017
3,060
I bought a Pro near its launch and for a year leading up to the X launch, kept buying buying multiplats on Xbox solely because of the Elite Controller. It’s an amazing controller and I hate using anything else. Wish Sony would copy them or would stop fighting off the adapters. (I have a Brook adapter which disconnects regularly).

I customize button layout for almost every game I play regularly. Once you adapt to paddles, it’s a real game changer. Hard to imagine the controller getting much better but I’ll be keeping an open mind.
 
Oct 27, 2017
63
Have you been under a rock the last two weeks?
- Halo 6 will have massive player counts in multiplayer (much higher than Halo 5) and massive maps
- Fable reboot by Playground Games
- Perfect Dark is getting rebooted with modern gameplay elements, The Coalition seems to be using a small support team on it with a different team MAINLY developing it.
- Microsoft wants to reboot NBA Jam
- Crackdown 3 Beta is coming very soon
- A mech game is getting made exclusively for Xbox One and Windows 10
- Electric Square is working on AAA well-known franchise for Microsoft
- Storylabs put a post up accidentally showing that The Coalition and Storylabs was helping on a new IP (although there’s speculation that they just meant a IP not Gears of War and this could indeed be Perfect Dark)
- Rare might be doing something for 20th anniversary of Banjo (either a cameo in an existing game or a remaster of the original game — this could literally be ANYTHING so don’t get too hyped for this one)
- WindowsCentral reported that Microsoft was working on a hardware project codenamed Project Scarlet
- Elite Controller 2.0 now leaked (and probably is Scarlet)

DISCLAIMER: I’m not an insider. I just have been following all the leaks.

This is a lot of shit in two weeks you have to admit.
Lol, the only leak I heard was Fable. Thanks
 
Oct 25, 2017
633
Without fixing the bumpers that break themselves, this controller is still overpriced for what you get. Something that will likely break isn't worth $150.
 
Oct 30, 2017
2,371
Minneapolis
This all sounds great, but they better up the build quality. I'm on my third elite, and both times it was the top bumpers. I'm not sure if it's the way I grab the controller or what, but really disappointing regardless, to go through three of them for the price you pay.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,258
Mate what are you on?

You dont think that will connect to an Xbox One?
It didn't cross my mind earlier, because I thought one side would be the MagSafe thing and the other the Type-C connector.

Also, the picture was literally not loading the last 3rd and I didn't see the logo until I refreshed the page and then edited the post, but thanks for exposing me. :P
 
Oct 27, 2017
590
I don't understand the hate for the built in batteries. People act like rechargeable batteries die on a consistent basis. I've had the same iPhone 6+ for three years and I'm still able to get through a whole days use on it. I do understand that there are duds out there, but I think the worry of dead batteries is a little overblown. I would also like to note that I've had the same play and charge kit since the Xbox ones launch, and by all accounts, they seem to be working as intended.
 
Oct 27, 2017
286
Minnesota
The pro controller might be my favorite controller. I'm not seeing a lot here that would make me want another one, but I'm glad they're sticking with it.

They should make a pro version of the Duke.
 

TSM

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,425
I don't understand the hate for the built in batteries. People act like rechargeable batteries die on a consistent basis. I've had the same iPhone 6+ for three years and I'm still able to get through a whole days use on it. I do understand that there are duds out there, but I think the worry of dead batteries is a little overblown. I would also like to note that I've had the same play and charge kit since the Xbox ones launch, and by all accounts, they seem to be working as intended.
People have had controllers with built in batteries since the PS3. We strongly dislike them for good reasons. My old 360 controllers are basically like brand new. My Sixaxis and Dualshock 3 controllers on the other hand are basically hard wired controllers at this point given how short the battery life is. I could replace the internal batteries, but even then in 3 or 4 months when I finally get around to using the controllers the batteries will have fully discharged and I'll have to recharge the controllers before use or play hardwired while they charge. Even when they were new, my wife and kids would discharge the batteries while I was sleeping or at work and I ended up playing hard wired as much as I played wirelessly. Meanwhile my 360/XB1 controllers are mere seconds away from having a fresh charge for any reasonable number of controllers which makes them fantastic when I'm playing with the kids or have company.
 
Nov 17, 2017
14,115
Utah
I kept holding off on the Elite due to the price point and hearing about the faulty controllers.

But for an installed rechargeable battery? I probably will bite now!
 
Oct 25, 2017
183
Expected, I got an Elite for Christmas and it was almost impossible to find. Wife had to visit multiple stores to find stock. Amazon.ca hasn't had any in months.

Now I am torn as I am still within the return period....
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,804
It didn't cross my mind earlier, because I thought one side would be the MagSafe thing and the other the Type-C connector.

Also, the picture was literally not loading the last 3rd and I didn't see the logo until I refreshed the page and then edited the post, but thanks for exposing me. :P
Hahaha its not often i catch Ninja edits on ERA.
Usually Era will actually put the edit in my quote for you it seems the site was against you and kept the original text.
 
I hope they fix the sticks. I am on my third Elite controller because one or both sticks have a significant drift in the sticks out of the box. I gave up trying to get one that didn’t drift so I just deal with it now.
 

Chumley

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Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,651
No, I prefer the standard grips too. The rubber makes my hands warmer and feels sticky. Plastic texture on the standard grips is perfect.
Glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. 30 minutes on the elite and my hands felt slimy, that never happens on the new standard ones.
 

LoyalPhoenix

Banned
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,766
Have you been under a rock the last two weeks?
- Halo 6 will have massive player counts in multiplayer (much higher than Halo 5) and massive maps
- Fable reboot by Playground Games
- Perfect Dark is getting rebooted with modern gameplay elements, The Coalition seems to be using a small support team on it with a different team MAINLY developing it.
- Microsoft wants to reboot NBA Jam
- Crackdown 3 Beta is coming very soon
- A mech game is getting made exclusively for Xbox One and Windows 10
- Electric Square is working on AAA well-known franchise for Microsoft
- Storylabs put a post up accidentally showing that The Coalition and Storylabs was helping on a new IP (although there’s speculation that they just meant a IP not Gears of War and this could indeed be Perfect Dark)
- Rare might be doing something for 20th anniversary of Banjo (either a cameo in an existing game or a remaster of the original game — this could literally be ANYTHING so don’t get too hyped for this one)
- WindowsCentral reported that Microsoft was working on a hardware project codenamed Project Scarlet
- Elite Controller 2.0 now leaked (and probably is Scarlet)

DISCLAIMER: I’m not an insider. I just have been following all the leaks.

This is a lot of shit in two weeks you have to admit.
I would argue the vast majority of those are rumors and not actual leaks until proven otherwise.
 
Oct 27, 2017
590
People have had controllers with built in batteries since the PS3. We strongly dislike them for good reasons. My old 360 controllers are basically like brand new. My Sixaxis and Dualshock 3 controllers on the other hand are basically hard wired controllers at this point given how short the battery life is. I could replace the internal batteries, but even then in 3 or 4 months when I finally get around to using the controllers the batteries will have fully discharged and I'll have to recharge the controllers before use or play hardwired while they charge. Even when they were new, my wife and kids would discharge the batteries while I was sleeping or at work and I ended up playing hard wired as much as I played wirelessly. Meanwhile my 360/XB1 controllers are mere seconds away from having a fresh charge for any reasonable number of controllers which makes them fantastic when I'm playing with the kids or have company.
Your problems aren't the fault of the rechargeable battery. Going months without use/charge shouldn't yield any other result other than a dead device. That's like deciding to put my phone in my book bag for a week and hoping its still charged when I decide to use it again. You also reference 10+ year old controllers as your example, but rechargeable batteries have improved since, so its not fair to compare them. However, I don't have any kids of my own, so I'm sure it can be a headache if your kids are constantly killing your controllers battery life (I wouldn't allow my kid to use my $150 controller to begin with (I let my nephew play with my standard xbox controller.... I'm a bad uncle)). I hope I'm not coming off as a jerk or anything, but I have various devices around me with non removable batteries, some ranging from 5+ years old, and they all work perfectly fine. Again, I understand there can be a bad batch here and there, but generally they work as intended for many years. On a similar note, do you own a switch? Its literally 3 built in rechargeable batteries.

all of this is meaningless in the end, these manufactures are able to produce these devices cheaper than ever, but charge more than ever for them. So if your device breaks out of warranty, too bad, go fork over another $$$ for a new controller (and yes, that sucks a lot).
 

TSM

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,425
Non replaceable battery? What the fuck they are thinking.
Judging by this thread they are thinking a lot of people don't really care if their controllers actually work wirelessly down the line.

Going months without use/charge shouldn't yield any other result other than a dead device.
This is exactly the point of why people prefer a controller that takes AA rechargeable batteries. Actual examples:

-My family feels like playing an Xbox 360 game for the first time in 6 months, and within minutes everyone is holding a wireless controller with fresh batteries.

-My family feels like playing a PS3 game for the first time in 6 months. Unless I planned ahead the batteries are all dead and everyone has to play wired to the console or an outlet.

Which of these seems like a huge issue to you?
 
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Oct 27, 2017
3,909
People have had controllers with built in batteries since the PS3. We strongly dislike them for good reasons. My old 360 controllers are basically like brand new. My Sixaxis and Dualshock 3 controllers on the other hand are basically hard wired controllers at this point given how short the battery life is.
My DualShock3 controllers last 10 hours on a charge.

My old 360 controllers only work when plugged in to the console.
 

Eon

Member
Nov 21, 2017
1,002
Have you been under a rock the last two weeks?
- Halo 6 will have massive player counts in multiplayer (much higher than Halo 5) and massive maps
- Fable reboot by Playground Games
- Perfect Dark is getting rebooted with modern gameplay elements, The Coalition seems to be using a small support team on it with a different team MAINLY developing it.
- Microsoft wants to reboot NBA Jam
- Crackdown 3 Beta is coming very soon
- A mech game is getting made exclusively for Xbox One and Windows 10
- Electric Square is working on AAA well-known franchise for Microsoft
- Storylabs put a post up accidentally showing that The Coalition and Storylabs was helping on a new IP (although there’s speculation that they just meant a IP not Gears of War and this could indeed be Perfect Dark)
- Rare might be doing something for 20th anniversary of Banjo (either a cameo in an existing game or a remaster of the original game — this could literally be ANYTHING so don’t get too hyped for this one)
- WindowsCentral reported that Microsoft was working on a hardware project codenamed Project Scarlet
- Elite Controller 2.0 now leaked (and probably is Scarlet)

DISCLAIMER: I’m not an insider. I just have been following all the leaks.

This is a lot of shit in two weeks you have to admit.
I must’ve been under a rock. I missed ALL of this. I’m totally down for a Crackdown beta, more Fable, Perfect Dark and NBA JAM.
 
Nov 10, 2017
965
I generally suspect people that prefer built in controller batteries don't have children ruining their plans by running controllers down and not connecting them to charge when they are done. They also probably don't plan on using a controller much past the release of the next console. Anyone that has old PS3 controllers can attest to how terribly those internal batteries have aged.
First they use cheap battery’s most of the time and I hate to play with a cable attached to my Controller.
I use Eneloop’s in all of my devices that support them and always have a fresh set of Eneloop’s in reach for my Elite Controller when I play.
Okay I get it. The convenience of always having a full charge nearby combined with the not having to worry about the internal battery dying. Makes sense.
 
Nov 16, 2017
312
There's no way they wouldn't have addressed the rampant bumper and stick-drift issues for the sequel, right? RIGHT?

Also, Eneloop master-race am cry.
 
Oct 27, 2017
8,614
UK
Dont you hate it when companies fudge up designs that other companies have already solved.

Logitech have solved this stupid issue with the removable batteries, ship the controller with eneloops inside and allow the controller to charge the AA battery with the controller connected to the console (for people that don't ever replace them).

Problem solved for everyone.
Won't they then risk people charging alkaline batteries?
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,280
Denmark
What are you going to do if they die? (break, not functional anymore)
I don't keep stuff around for long enough for battery degradation to have a major influence in my purchasing habits. If anyone intends to use a controller for that long that yea of course this sucks. But I will most likely use the controller for 2-4 years tops and then sell it.
 

CarthOhNoes

Someone is plagiarizing this post
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,766
Not sure what the fuss is about re batteries. I mean AA is nice but if it’s got battery life like a switch pro controller then that’s fine / that thing is flat out wizardry it lasts forever.