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ASleepingMonkey

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Given the credibility of this leak, if you do not want the endgame of Red Dead 2 spoiled, you should bail now. While it doesn't outright spoil the end of the game or the story, it may imply things and ruin a pretty massive surprise. You've been warned.

Given the new wave of official info that has been released for Red Dead Redemption 2 with confirmation of camps, gang management, and the appearance of John Marston, I figured I should bring this leak back into the light.

Before Red Dead Redemption 2 was ever even officially announced or just around the time of the first teaser, someone leaked some info about the game on Reddit. At the time, a lot of people just dismissed it because well, it's Reddit and people can make stuff up so easily. In hindsight, he nailed a lot of stuff to the tee and it's way too much to be just a coincidence.

The leaker confirmed the protagonist was Arthur Morgan, the camp management systems, and a basic idea of the plot. Again, this was before the game was officially announced or at the very least (I can't find the original Reddit post), around the time of the first trailer which gave us none of this information.

With that said, the rumor said that once the credits roll, players will switch to John Marston to build his ranch in Beecher's Hope.

"There is kind of a game plus like like the last one had. You end up at Beechers Hope and switch control to John Marston. There are then lots of quests etc dealing with building up your ranch. You literally will do x And Z to build a gazebo. I heard someone designed a mini game where you help a mare give birth that had people laughing."

Obviously, this could get cut but it sounds as if they've spent a lot of time developing this aspect and it'll give us a look at John's life before Red Dead Redemption, hell, maybe it'll even lead directly into John's capture and the government seizing his family. Only time will tell how fleshed out this endgame is but I'm incredibly interested in this game and can't wait to play it.
 
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ASleepingMonkey

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Wouldn't surprise me at all. Weren't the multiple characters in GTAV a feature most people liked?
Yeah, the mechanic itself was pretty beloved. This won't be the same as that, though. More along the lines of the first RDR when you switch from John to
Jack Marston as an adult
 

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A female character would be very much appreciated. Please, Rockstar, please. I want to know the struggles of women and how strong women took their own stand in Western era.
 

Jocund

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Building the Beecher's Hope ranch will be a tasteful parallel to the end game of Redemption 1, especially if we get to engage in some jolly cooperation with Abigail. I really hope it hasn't been cut.

A female character would be very much appreciated. Please, Rockstar, please. I want to know the struggles of women and how strong women took their own stand in Western era.

We have Sadie, and maybe others, but I doubt they're playable. The most we can hope for is that they're given their due by the writers.
 

RoKKeR

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I've been anticipating this since we knew Marston was in the game. Seems plausible.

I hope they get his old VO back.
 

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I hope this is in, it would be incredibly refreshing to have something so elaborate and just all around pleasent as post gane content.
 
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I think it'll be like GTA5, but you'll have side missions, free roam with individual members of the whole gang, each having their own focus or playstyle.
 

Mifec

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Sounds to me like the end is just gonna be what you did as John when you got back in 1 but with more to it. Pretty plausible.
 

GamerDude

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Not interested in reading the thread due to spoilers, but thanks a lot for making the freakin' title a spoiler.
 

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oh boy here comes the stampede of people who consider literally anything besides the title of the game to be a spoiler but browse places like ERA on a daily basis
 

The Benz

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Arthur sounds like a goner. I'm pretty sure John is going to be the one to do it too. Going to be cool if they can pull it off.
 

Maxey

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We can't even discuss the possibility of multiple characters in a game based on a leak that might be way off?

Jesus Fucking Christ.
 

greatgeek

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On a related note, I was perusing that thread on gtaforums where people are obsessively mapping out the game using prerelease media, and they seem have confirmed the accuracy of the leaked map, including that Blackwater and Tall Trees are part of it. This last bit taken together with a shot from the trailer showing a desert area, which looks to be inconsistent with the new areas (which are more alpine, plains, bayou), suggests that the rumor that New Austin is part of the map is also true.
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Arthur sounds like a goner. I'm pretty sure John is going to be the one to do it too. Going to be cool if they can pull it off.
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In the leaked map there is a small, separate map showing an island with Spanish location names. Arthur probably get an "escapes to South America" ending.
 
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was Raiden being playable in MGS2 the same thing as what you're saying? nice false equivalency
do we have any indication from the title that RDR2 has anywhere near as big of a change of POV as that was?

i really want you to explain why you browse this website at all if something as mundane as "Game Has More Than One Playable Character" is ruinous for you

We can't even discuss the possibility of multiple characters in a game based on a leak that might be way off?

Jesus Fucking Christ.
no, it is the world's job to blackout my interactive media to my precise specifications, even if i'm willfully digitally sitting in a room full of discussion surrounding said interactive media
 
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Snake Eater

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do we have any indication RDR2 has anywhere near as big of a change of POV as that was?

i really want you to explain why you browse this website at all if something as mundane as "Game Has More Than One Playable Character" is ruinous for you

It’s a story “leak”, some people like experiencing a story fresh, I don’t expect thread titles like “MGS2 rumored to have second playable character” months before a title comes out
 

Ryuhza

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I hope they let you play as the NPCs in online like in the first game. I know a lot of people liked having their own character in GTA Online, but I always thought that they all kinda had the same uncanny look about them, compounded with the fact that they were always mute. Would much prefer the more colorful characters pre-designed for the game, with voice lines and all that.

I remember in RDRO you could press a button to have your character speak. Such fine lines as...

"Imma git you! Don't give a fart how!"
 

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It’s a story “leak”, some people like experiencing a story fresh, I don’t expect thread titles like “MGS2 rumored to have second playable character” months before a title comes out
this doesn't answer the damn question. people like you never answer the damn question. this is a community that literally cut its teeth on leaks of this nature, why are you exposing yourself to it if it upsets you
 

Maxey

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this doesn't answer the damn question. people like you never answer the damn question. this is a community that literally cut its teeth on leaks of this nature, why are you exposing yourself to it if it upsets you
I'm apalled the OP even had the gall to use the character's name in the title. Fucking spoilers, man!
 

PlanetSmasher

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Unsurprising. I still hope there's one playable character who has nothing to do with Dutch or his crew of scumbags, though. It'd be such an awesome surprise if the game's perspective shifted to one of the lawmen hunting them down and you got to play those scenes instead of just being stuck playing as a bad guy the entire game.
 

BernardoOne

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It’s a story “leak”, some people like experiencing a story fresh, I don’t expect thread titles like “MGS2 rumored to have second playable character” months before a title comes out
spoiler alert: game's going to be on the wild west. guns are involved. characters will die

oh wow such spoilers
 

Ahasverus

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The spoiler policy for this game must be the weirdest thing.

On one hand, we all know everybody dies.

On the other hand... It's kind of anticlimatic to remember ourselves that at every point.
 
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Has the original voice actor returned for John Marston? Cheers.

Oh, and OP I'm glad you got a mod to edit out Thanos from the thread title. Spoiling the part where him and Arthur Morgan sit around a poker table and discuss the power levels of the MCU heroes would really upset some people!
 

Spring-Loaded

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good because this dude looks complete boring. Anything that keeps us from having to play as him, even just for post-game, is an improvement
 

JDSpades

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A lot of people aren’t reading the OP. The character switch occurs after the game is completed, and the OP already says who it switches to. Why are people comparing it to what was in GTAV or going “I hope it’s x or y character”?
 

Falconbox

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Found this comment from 2 years ago where a Reddit user says that the "RedDeadInsider" PM'd them with some info, and includes the name "Arthur".

There was a guy on Reddit several months ago supposedly leaking Red Dead info, this was the message he sent me, not sure how much to believe of it:

"Lets see what I remember...

You play a gang leader named Arthur. The biggest change made to the game is you have a posse. If I remember correctly, the story kind of starts when you find out someone in your outlaw gang is a pinkerton spy. The pinkertons end up having you on the run through most of the game. You acquire lots of members of your gang such as abigal, little jack, marsten, and others. The core mechanic of the game is having to maintain and continuously move your outlaw camp. When you go on a mission you will choose who to take with you, similar to mass effect or dragon age. The game spans five zones. A directive they keep getting is to make the environments more interactive like skyrim. Whatever that means.

There is kind of a game plus like like the last one had. You end up at beechers hope and switch control to Jon marsten. The are then lots of quests etc dealing with building up your ranch. You literally will do x And Z to build a gazebo. I heard someone designed a mini game where you help a mare give birth that had people laughing.

The last I heard, which was a few months ago, the game was kind of stuck in development hell of sorts. Then team kept remaking a vertical slice demo for the leaders of rockstar and they aren't impressed... They didn't find it different enough or innovative enough. Hopefully they got out of that rut.

I've also heard that since gta5 morale at rockstar SD had been bad. Long timers are quitting. Lots of turnover. Lots of frustration.

That's all I can remember off hand."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comm...demption_2_game_map_reportedly_leaked/d24idvq
 

Van Bur3n

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As I said in the new screenshots thread, this is the most predictable scenario. Given the nature that this is a prequel and Marston is a beloved character that people would like to play again, it makes sense to go that route. Especially since the character switch is a repeat of what was originally done in the first game.

Despite how predictable it is, I'll still take it and enjoy every second of it. I have no problems playing as Marston again and seeing RDR2 lead all the way up to the beginning of the first RDR when he is approached by government agents to do their dirty work and his family is taken away. Would be a good ending to the game.
 

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Would be amazing if there is a timeskip to John's son

That sounds like a really cool narrative framing device. An epilogue where this has been Jack Marston trying to get a better understanding of his father, tracking Arthur Morgan down and RDR2 being John Marston's story through the eyes of Arthur Morgan.
 
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